4/26 Trixie AMBG 97 PMBG 100...runny poop

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Amy&TrixieCat

Amy&TrixieCat

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Trix is feeling pretty good this morning. I did get more roly poly snuggles when I first got up, and she has eaten fairly well. But there are things about her behavior that tell me she is not 100%...like, she's only eating small quantities at a time (which is good....we don't want to overwhelm her body...but it's also not her usual method of eating!), and she has really been staying upstairs for the most part. She's a social kitty, although she is not a super duper needy social kitty like the rest of our herd is. Still, she usually does come down to sit in the sun or by the heating vent (yes, we still need the heat here!).

I also think that, since she doesn't "need" attention like the other kitties do (she wants it when SHE wants it, then moves along on her merry way), she's a bit tired of all the attention that is being forced on her. So, as hard as it is, I'm going to try and step back just a little and give her some breathing room now that she's starting to feel better...see if we can somehow get back to "normal". I did actually sleep in bed last night, rather than sleeping on the floor near her.

I'm still not comfortable shooting, especially given her numbers which continue to surprise me. Her appy and demeanor, although improving, are iffy to me. That, and I have completely lost my own confidence...I'm terrified she'll drop and I won't be able to get her to eat HC if she needs it.

I did manage to get her BP meds in this morning, although she wasn't super excited about her treats and FortiFlora spoon like she used to be, so I don't know if this was a one-time fluke or not. I did get salmon Pill Pockets so the flavor is different. She wouldn't take them out of my hand - she must have an aversion now - but she did take them off the spoon. I hope she'll keep going with those now....sooooo important and I don't know what I'll do otherwise. I know I can get the amlodipine compounded into a transdermal gel if necessary. I don't know about the ACEI, though.

I do have to go to work today, at least for the morning. I'm not sure, but I probably will come home early and spend the afternoon working here, so I can keep tabs on things.

With that, I had better start getting ready. Have a great day, LL....and, as always, thank you for all the love and support.

Amy
 
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I'm glad to see Trix is making progress and feeling better. :-D :-D And holding her BG too. :mrgreen: Hugs to you, Amy, you're doing a super job with everything.
Liz
 
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Good morning Amy ~O)
I'm so sorry I haven't posted until today, but I have been having issues getting kicked off the site and sign in problems :sad: Fingers crossed this one goes through!
That's really something about Trix holding her numbers so well through all this and sans juse! :-D One less worry for her sweet beans. And a huge sigh of relief that she is feeling and acting more comfortable. I was thinking that even though some of her behaviors aren't 'Trixie' norms, do you think maybe she has figured out what she wants and needs to feel better (like small meals) and is modifying her own schedule? Cats are pretty darn clever about things (for example not killing us when they see a pokey coming because they 'know' it makes them better).
Just want you to know that we have been watching you guys and our love and prayers are always coming your way :YMHUG:
 
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Good Morning, Amy,
I'm glad that you got some sleep last night and that Trixie seems to be OK, even though she might not be following her old routines. Kim has a good point when she says that cats are very smart and know how to modify their behavior to makes themselves more comfortable. Good luck with getting her meds into her! When I lost my first post yesterday I was about to give you a link to a pill shooter that Lisa (Do Lou) recommended when Stu needed to be pilled. Here it is:
http://www.amazon.com/Mikki-Pill-Gun/dp/B00076HUB4/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20
Get it way back in the mouth, shoot the pill, squirt in a little water from one of those small bottles with a flip-up top, and hold her mouth shut until she swallows. This is supposed to work, although I must confess that I was never good at it and Stu was "difficult". Anyway, it's worth a try if the pill pockets don't work out.

I hope that you will have a good day today and that Trixie will be feeling good.

Hugs, scritches,

Ella & Rusty
 
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Morning Amy, checking in on Maggie (GA)'s sweet friend this morning. I love that she's giving you roly poly snuggles. Sounds like the different flavor Salmon pill pockets are okay with Trixie, so cute with a spoon. I was thinking the same as Kim with Trixie and the small meals and modifying her behavior and schedule. You're doing a super, super job with all the meds and timing of it all, too. Hugs to you and glad you had more rest. Lots of gentle scritches for Trixie.
 
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Thank you again, everyone :YMHUG: :YMHUG: .

I agree...Trix has been regulated how she eats herself, and as long as she eats I'm OK with that. I can't tell you how thankful I am that her BGs are holding steady without insulin. I hold my breath with every test.

I'll check out the pill popper....I'm not sure how she'll go for it, either, as she is also difficult in that one manner. Even the vet commented yesterday that it is hard to get her mouth open. Hopefully she'll re-settle with the PPs. I've heard of others using Laughing Cow Cheese, so if the PPs don't work, I'll check that out. And, of course, the transdermal gel - that is always super-easy to use, but not always as effective. But, we used transdermal tapazole for Mario's HyperT and he was well-regulated with it. So at least we do have that option.

She really is getting anxious when she sees us now since we keep coming at her with meds....that, of course, makes me very sad. But I'm reminding both her and myself that this is just temporary. I'm hoping we can start backing off on some of the meds a tad so she can feel more secure around us again. And, this also makes hard to tell if she's uncomfortable from pain, or she's just afraid if we're coming at her with another med. Ugh. Well, at the moment, she's set until this evening.

It's probably good for both her and me that I'm at work for now. I am going to go home a little early so I can evaluate how things are looking, but I'm going to try to stay here till around 3:00 so she has a good long run without me hovering. DH will periodically check on her, but he's also much better about now crowding her than I am.
 
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Amy,
I use that exact pill popper for my 'hard to pill' fuzzy feetz. It doesn't scratch mouths and works wonderfully. I'd rather be able to use something that lets them gobble them up by themselves but that doesn't always happen.... :roll:

BIG HUGS and extra thoughts and prayers still happenin' here!
 
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Amy,
I use that exact pill popper for my 'hard to pill' fuzzy feetz. It doesn't scratch mouths and works wonderfully. I'd rather be able to use something that lets them gobble them up by themselves but that doesn't always happen.... :roll:

BIG HUGS and extra thoughts and prayers still happenin' here!
 
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Hi Amy,

I am glad that Trixie is feeling somewhat better and is eating small meals. We will continue to pray for her. She has nice break until evening to recoop a little bit.
 
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I'm glad Trixie is feeling a little better. Continuing to send prayers and hugs. :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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(((Amy)))
I am so glad Trixie is feeling better today.
Sending more healing vines.

Lucy is hard to force-pill too.
And she gets really stressed about it.
So I also have to find a way to make her willingly take them.
Since she doesn't like any flavor of the pill pocket, I have to make my own.
I know you are vegetarian, so probably wouldn't be interested, but NV raw chicken bites worked really really well.
One morsel is a size of a kibble, so it's perfect and really convenient to wrap a pill, and the texture is sticky, not meaty and slippery like the other raw diets.
I used to use tuna sashimi, and it works really well for smaller pill, but didn't work well for bigger capsules.
I think cooked shrimps would hold pills well too, if Trixie isn't allergic to seafood....
 
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Thanks, Mariko...yes, I'm vegetarian, but at the moment I'll try anything to help my TrixieBug. I haven't tried the pill pockets yet tonight...she just had her liquid famotadine and is not super thrilled, so I'm giving her a little bit of time before I try.

She was roly poly again when I got home from work, and has eaten little bits throughout the day. I'd like to see her eating a bit better, but I think we are making baby steps. I think the fact that she's getting excessive attention (and meds) IS making her a bit nervous and wary...I'm trying so hard to step away and give her a little breathing room which is, of course, so much easier said than done. Like I said earlier, she is a snuggler, but on her time and her terms...she's not used to constantly having beans approach her like this. I have noticed that the times she has been roly poly have been after she's had a few hours to herself.
 
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I'm glad to hear the roly poly news!

I wanted to add, Amy, if you want to try the NV raw chicken as pill pockets, ask for a sample bag!
They have small bags of free sample, and some stores may have them in stock.
That's what I got, and it lasts a long time only used as pill pockets and occasional treats.
NV raw chicken bites don't have the raw meat look or texture, they're just like some moistened up kibbles.
So I promise you won't feel disgusted. They're not even red.
 
She just had a very stinky very soft but not full on diarrhea poop that required a tushy clean :sad: ....Honestly, I'm not super surprised, given all that is going on, but still traumatizing for all involved...
 
Sending firmer poo vines and better appetite vines to Trixie.
J.D. is just so used to pills that most of them just get wrapped in a bit of pill pocket and get put (pushed) down his throat. I do hate when he's on a lot of meds, and can't wait to reduce them to one or two a day, so understand what you are going through. Hugs.
 
She does seem to feel a bit better after the stinky poop....she did eat a teeny bit and actually came downstairs all on her for the first time in a day or two. She searched for a few stray kibbles, too (yes, she did find one...I wasn't going to fight her on it!). No luck with tonight's BP meds yet, though. Maybe I will have to become a little more forceful....I hate that thought, though.

Now...is this a one-shot deal, or is it going to be ongoing? Vetty did say to let her know - we may need to start mentronidazole as well. Yay. Fortunately our vet is in tomorrow, so I will put in a call first thing....
 
I seem to have best luck with cheese. ( usually cheddar or Monterey jack as it's what we eat) And we just plow on and get'r'done.

Given all she's having to take.... no wonder she's a bit drippy.
Sending more firmer poo vines.
 
It wasn't fun or pretty, but I finally got her evening BP meds into her. We tried a few passive approaches throughout the evening with no luck. This last time, I offered her the two pill-pocketed pills and 3 kibbles on a spoon. "No way," she said. So, starting to get too freaked out about not getting these into her consistently enough, I tried to force one of the pill pocketed pills in the side of her mouth. Got it in; she flicked it out. 3 times. I stuck both pills together (the amlodipine and the ACEI) and tried again; same result. I gave up, thinking it's not happening tonight. I put the spoon down in front of her...2 pills mushed together into a PP plus 3 kibbles. She ate 'em all. As a consolation prize, I offered her another spoon with 2 kibbles and 2 empty pill pockets. No go. She's such a sweet girl....but I have a feeling this was a one time fluke, too, and I will have to come up with another plan for tomorrow.

That runny poop certainly did make her feel better....I hope that was the "clearing" of whatever we've had going on here....

We still have fluids and this evening's bupe. Fun stuff....poor Trix.
 
Poor Trix. Insult to injury with that poop.

I hope each step allows her to start feeling better. And liking her BP meds again.
 
My vet actually told me to feed Max several small meals a day when he got pancreatitis. He said when they start to feel okay and they eat too much at a time it makes them feel crummy. So Trixie is a smart cat!! Max has also gotten one or two runny poops when having a panc attack. The last time it happened I even filled the script for flagyl but didn't have to use it as the loose poop was gone by the next day. I told myself I would give it one day and it stopped on its own. I hope that happens in this case too.
 
Amy, I'm glad Trixie is getting better, and that you are getting some sleep. It is hard not to hover, isn't it?

I really am fascinated by the great BG numbers she's had through all this, with no jus! I hope that continues - one less "mean" thing you have to do to her! ;-)

Sending good poo and appy vines, and more hugs, too. :YMHUG:
 
Morning Amy ~O) ~O) ~O)

I am glad tat Trixie is starting to feel better. I have finally been able to read all that went on yesterday. it is all so so reminiscent of what went on with Mannie's P'titis. We struggled so to get meds in him, and I too had to keep coming up with new plans. they'd work for a few days, then were no go's. I so remember those in the mouth followed by the spit-out. he was so good at cheeking his pills. :roll: We had issues with runny poos too, but in time, once he felt better that was resolved too. I am wishing you much luck, and good better vines for Trixie.
 
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