4/24 Tommy+10 352, PMPS 314, +1R 388, +3.5R 503

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Yesterday's Condo
Another day in the upper atmosphere. angry(2)_cat
Either Tommy or Teddy had a little throw up some time last night. No food in it, just a little bile and some darker hair which leads me to feel it was Tommy since, well, Teddy is orange and white :smile: Duh!!
I'm a little nervous nailbite_smile about starting R this morning but it will be ok.. Lots of good advice, practice and directions in front of me.
Wish us luck for some much needed lower numbers.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414

yep, it will be ok. :YMHUG:

0.1 units at AMPS, then test at +1, +2, +3, and maybe +4. It probably won't do anything, just so you know, but we have to start low just in case it does work. At +6 we'll see where he is and see if he wants more.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414

Good Morning: Well, he could be higher this a.m. Good luck with the R, I'm sure you will do fine. You do an excellent job monitoring and caring for Tommy. Here's to nicer numbers. Have a wonderful day.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414, AMPS 397

Yeah, I know he could be higher, I don't mean to complain, I know there are others with much bigger problems than i am having. It's just frustrating.
Tommy got his first dose of 0.1R this morning. Practiced and Practiced the drop, not sure if i got it just right the first time I dosed.
Time and patience. I'll be testing at +1 and we'll go from there.
Happy Easter to all of LL and much prayers again to those who are having difficult times. :YMHUG:
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414, AMPS 397 First dose of R

Wishing you best of luck with the R, and hoping that it will help Tommy get his numbers down.

Happy Easter,

Ella & Rusty
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414, AMPS 397 First dose of R

I forgot to ask, It is ok to feed normal schedule this morning while doing R curve?
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414, AMPS 397 First dose of R

Been feeding a.m.p.s. +1 +2 when i can +3, none after +5or +6 and feeding again at p.m.p.s.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +11 414, AMPS 397 First dose of R

if you're feeding smallish amounts that should be ok. Part of the point of this exercise is to figure out what R will do for Tommy, so if that is his normal schedule then that should be part of the equation, in my opinion.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy AMPS 397First dose of R

I'm sorry if that seemed like a silly question. I know that ecid but following the posts between you and Bev, she had asked a question if it would be ok to feed Gus During an R curve because he was crying so much. I believe she wasn't feeding him to get a true reading. I could be wrong.
I understand not changing the routine with feeding. He gets 3oz @ a.m. and p.m and 1 1/2oz the other times.
Tommy's +1 is lower than his a.m. number which almost never happens. Maybe a good sign?
You have a good day too Libby! I want to thank you so much for being around this Easter morning. :smile:
I will continue with his normal schedule.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy AMPS 397 +1R 386, +2R 361

Going the right direction so far. :-D
Thank you all for the good thoughts.
Tommy is definitely responding to something this a.m.
Hugs and Kisses to your furbabies ;-)
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy AMPS 397 +1R 386, +2R 361

nice. :smile: When you think about it, he would normally be going UP in this part of the cycle (because of food and because Lantus hasn't kicked in yet), so hopefully he will have a good cycle.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy AMPS 397,+1R 386,+2R 361,+3R 321,+4R 268

Yeah for +4 number :mrgreen: . The questions i have right now are, do i continue to monitor +5,+6 etc to see if the Lantus really kicks in or hold off and get a +10 or +11. He's being a real soldier today with the ear pokey thingy's... :smile:
Sienne had mentioned to me yesterday that if above 300 is a general criteria for dosing R. If Tommy is anywhere near that at +6 should i go ahead and give another 0.1u?
Squirrel and Tommy!
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy AMPS 397,+1R 386,+2R 361,+3R 321,+4R 268

sorry I didn't see this right away. I think you can take a break until +6. If he is heading back upward at +6, then 0.1 of R won't hurt, as long as you're able to monitor. He had a nice drop today. :smile:
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy AMPS 397,+1R 386,+2R 361,+3R 321,+4R 268

Goodness Libby, you don't need to apologize in the least. I'm just asking the questions that are in my head. I know you can't always be around, I understand. If i hadn't heard from you by then i would have probably given some thought to what you would have told me to do, played it safe and given R at +6 only if his numbers told me too. I really feel like I'm learning just by following Gus's Journey and the two of you talking back and forth.
Thank you for stopping by again. Tommy is probably enjoying the break!
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy+1R 386,+2R361,+3R321,+4R268, +6 227

woooooohoooooooo!!!, for now any way, I know it's only one dose, but a nice start. I'm pretty sure i got the drop in him and it wasn't just the Lantus this morning. Time will tell for that too i suppose. :smile:
+6 was 227, so no more R for now. I'm hoping this is just a sign of the good things to come.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy+2R361,+3R321,+4R268, +6 227, +10 352

I was wondering if I should give another 0.1 at pmps to help him through the night. I will stay up to monitor +1,2,3 and 4?if needed.
So i don't keep asking you the same questions Libby, will i be continuing to give R @ am and pm until we notice numbers below the 300 mark when it is time to give R. Is it possible for him to become resistant to R? When will it be safe not to give it? and if his +6 is always below 300 do i not dose?
I was just wondering where to go from here since we have the first day under our belts. I'm not so scared anymore and Tommy did well for his bean.
Thank you once again for your help :-D
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy+2R361,+3R321,+4R268, +6 227, +10 352

that's a lot of questions I can't answer with only one cycle under our belts. :lol: We're still in the data collection stage. See how on 4/14 he went from over 400 to low blue? And on 4/18 he went all the way from over 500 to lower blue over the course of two cycles, without any R. Since we know Tommy is capable of having that kind of cycle, I'm not ready to make generalizations yet about when it is ok to give him R. We have to figure out his R patterns AND his Lantus patterns. I'm comfortable with giving him R at the beginning of bounces, but less comfortable (right now) of giving it to him when he is flat or dropping.

For tonight, 0.1 sounds good if he is rising at PMPS.
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy+2R361,+3R321,+4R268, +6 227, +10 352

I know that was an awful lot to ask of you with just one cycle, I'm sorry for that.
As for the dose tonight, Tommy some times tends to have a lower number at pmps than say +10, +11 and then goes up after that. Is it still ok to give the 0.1 tonight even though the pmps might be a bit lower than earlier numbers? I'll continue with the +1,2,3 and +4 if +3 is lower.
I'll try to hold off inundating you with so many questions so early on. :smile:
Thank you Libby, Thank you!!!
To ditto what Bev said earlier tonight... Please don't ever be too far away Ok?
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +4R268, +6 227,+10 352, PMPS 314, +1 388

Not quite the outcome from this mornings dose, I wonder if i didn't get the drop just right in the syringe. @-) or it's Tommy just being unpredictable as usual.
I'll get a +2 and we'll go from there.
I pray that tomorrow will be a better day for all of LL.
Sleep well everyone!
 
Re: 4/24 Tommy +4R268, +6 227,+10 352, PMPS 314, +1 388

Hi Squirrel, I think Tommy had a pretty good day. His AMPS was not in the 400s, in fact he did not hit 400 today. I too hope you have a better day tomorrow. Have a good night. I know it is difficult to see these high numbers. He will come down (anti-jinx).
 
WOW!! I have no idea what is producing these numbers right now. I'm a little worried but we'll figure it out.
I did sleep right through the +2 alarm. Shame on me :roll:. He didn't get a fur shot tonight, hasn't gotten into any dry kibble or other illegal
contraband. I'll try to get another test before his a.m.p.s.
Don't worry Barbara ;-) I'm sure you didn't jinx anything!
Libby?, so i know for next time, it was only 3 1/2hrs since last R... Should i have given another 0.1 of R? upped it to .25 since the number was
so high or given nothing like i did?
 
Squirrel,
The R lasts only so long, and is to be used as a helper, think of a relay race.... the R should kick in within a few hours but may not last long enough for the Lantus/Lev to take over. The R is pulling down the numbers, but if you are not at a high enough Lantus dose to sufficiently take over at the low number and stay there, you will see a rise.

Working with bolus and basal insulins, getting the timing just right so that nadirs don't clash, is trial and error, just like the dose for your R. If you like to give R at the tail end of your cycle but it's not lasting till the Lantus starts to act fully - if the R is finished before Lantus, you could always adjust the time of the R shots, maybe give at +11, but then again, insulin resistance has a way of messing with all the rules and does whatever it pleases.... you just need to roll with it all.
 
I'm not really here (I'm at work, shhhhh.....) but I notice that the last few times Tommy has been in black he has dropped fairly quickly afterward. Some cats have a pattern we call "the high before the break" so watch and see if he does that again this time. It might be a GOOD thing that you're seeing this black. Weird, right?
 
Libby's right about the odd high number, out of the blue, for some cats. I know that when my Shadoe throws a 400 at me, something is in the process of happening. To me, it's like a pendulum, it swings to its farthest point then turns around and comes back... could be up, could be down, but something is brewing so best to prepare for it.
 
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