32 BGs last night now shes doing bad today. Juice related?

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Finally got computer back up and running, (virus) Thanks for the replys to my last thread, has helped sooo much.

I dont know whats wrong with her and its Sunday and Vets are closed, and I dont have 95 dollars to spend on Emergency vet. I will take her in tomorrow to a vet. Any advise to help us through the night? cause I have no idea whats going on!

She tested 32 last night, AFTER I gave her insulin. nailbite_smile (Ahhh) I gave her kitty treats, as much dry food as she wanted, half a cap of orange juice. (what was I thinking... wasnt, was freaking out) Waited a few minutes and did the retest with my Last Strip! :o and she got a 45. I then remembered milk had sugar, gave here quit a bit of that and then remembered some maple syrup and gave that every 5 minuets, , I would squirt some out on my finger and wipe it on her tongue, about a less than teaspoon worth total. I Hoped that did it and then got up in the night and feed her kitty treats and more dry food. .... TODAY she is not doing so good. This morning I didnt give her insulin because I didnt have strips and I figured she would "live" without that shot till I could get the test strips. Today She has been active, (not normal) she really hasnt slept. She hasnt hardly ate anything or drank any water, she had the runs and was throwing up, but nothing much came up. (She is laying on the bed resting now) I am now giving her eye drops of water in intervals so I dont trigger her throwing up. She is hot, much hotter than I have ever seen her , so I am assuming she has a fever.
Thats the day... I think shes fine and then she gets up and does the above. goes to bathroom, meows loud, dry heaves and now lays back down....

I am afraid she had organ damage or something, could juice, milk and too much food and super low blood sugar have such an effect today?
Any advise anyone can give to get me through the night till I get to a vet tomorrow?
 
Re: 32 BGs last night now shes doing bad today. Vet closed..

Glad you are back on line, hopefully some of those with a good bank of knowledge come around soon, though it sounds like you do need to see a vet as soon a its possible. Sorry your kitty is having a rough day. I don't have much to offer, just some moral support. Is there anywhere open that you can get some strips from? Testing would at least let you know if BGs are a factor in how she is feeling.
 
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Hello - sorry I don't post often these days but I've been on the board a long time. I'm also a nurse.

Is there any chance you can get your kitty's temperature? What does her breathing look like - fast, deep, or regular? Does her breath smell at all? Is she peeing??? What does the skin on the back of her neck do when you pull it up and let it go? Does it quickly go back to normal or does it stick up together and SLOWLY go back down?

Can you guess at all at how much water she has taken in? Will she take any tuna water??? or chicken broth? will she eat anything???? tuna? lunch meat? anything???
 
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Support is good too, :) Thank you. My computer still has virus, I am running it in safe mode and for some reason that is working. lol

Ok well I got test strips today and tested late afternoon, she was at 460. I gave half dose of insulin, (regretting that now, wish I wasnt a newbie) She had her breakfast but didnt eat much with shot in afternoon, hasnt eaten since and no water on her own.

I am still getting water in her, she wont take anything in. nothing since this morning. Skin on her neck went down a little slower than it should I think. I gave her about a tablespoon of chicken broth. I tried to get her temp earlier but wow, that it a serious no go. Is there Anywere else I get a "close" to accurate reading besides her bum? Her breathing is normal but she is acting like she is in pain.
 
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As I know you want to avoid the ER - my worry is the fluid intake and the high BG's now. I would suggest you keep pushing the fluids. Try anything. Have you given any Pepcid AC. 1/4 tablet and you can give it every 12 hours. That will help with maybe any nausea your kitty maybe having. You can get it at the grocery store even. BE sure it's pepcid AC. Try any foods - baby food - have you tried that at all - Beechnut is the best brand but Gerber will do - be sure it's the meat only - usually chicken or turkey but make sure there is no onions or onion powder in it. The gerber has some corn starch in it but that's ok if that's all you can get. Some people swear by Kentucky Fried Chicken. But I'm alittle worried about the way your kitty is acting. You need to keep working on the fluids especially tonite and try to get that pepcid.
 
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I have heard that OJ is bad for kitties... from what I am reading online, it is way too acidic for their digestive systems, something about it being similar to giving aspirin? Maybe change your thread title to include an OJ question and see what others say.
 
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I am not experienced in the slightest, but I have suggested fruit juice (apple) to someone before when they did not have other things available. I have heard vets recommend juice to people with cats for frequent UTIs (which makes no sense to me because they don't even metabolize it the same way). I know for sure that cats cannot have grapes or anything grape related at all---- it will kill them.

The argument on OJ is split from what I have read but it seems that it really upsets their stomachs and can give them digestive problems because it is so acidic. It can give them diarrhea. Cow's milk also gives cats diarrhea because they are surprisingly lactose intolerant.

This is just from what I was able to google, I am far from an expert. i hope someone can come along with an idea of what is going on :cry:
 
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please with all due respect - yes OJ isn't a good thing - but the problem tonite is not the OJ - it's that the cat isn't even drinking - and mom can't afford to go to the ER. She wants to wait to go to her own vet in the AM. We need to try to help her do some things at home that she is able to do - to help her kitty thru the nite. Even tho the OJ is acidic - if she gives some pepcid AC - that can help come with that issue. And she needs to get some fluids in this kitty. With not enough fluids in and only 1/2 the dose of his insulin - his sugars are now very hi.

I'm trying to get more people over here to help you more - but you will need to get your cat to your vet in the AM first thing.

I hope I haven't offended anyone - that is not my intent. Just trying to stay focused on the main problem for now. THANKs so much
 
Re: 32 BGs last night now shes doing bad today. Vet closed..

Just a thought... Can cats have pedialyte? Maybe this could help with dehydration if they can. I know they make it unflavored...
 
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Much thanks for the replys! <3

I gave her orange Peace mango juice last night. :/ (ack)

She licked some food, about a teaspoon, off my finger. Then went to try and poopys, but she did not dry heave this time, :) just went back to laying down. So the "progressively getting worse" has Stopped... *feeew*!! Not out of the hole but at least thats 2 good signs.

Yes they can have unflavored pedialyte. Good thinking. And thanks for googling that stuff. I am a horrible googler.. yes Im not sure how that is possible but it is most the time for me. Im a great youtuber though. lol

Thanks Patty, I will head to the store and get that stuff... after some water and a BG check on her. I will post her results when I get back. Such a huge help thank you. And yes I will call vet when they open and get her in there.
 
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Yes, pediolyte can be given to kitties to help. My caveat about the OJ was to point out that that was more than likely the cause of the issues going on. I think the pepcid may be a great thing to give your kitty right now.
 
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Just a sweetie Oscar is in that picture! X) And I forgot you said that, I should add something to the headline. Doing now! :)

340 BG. Got home and she ate some baby food, (happily) took her pepcid (reluctantly) and got a lid full of Pediolyte in her. (eye dropper) 11:30 I am ready for the night shift, lol. Zzzz


Thanks for the help again today all! I had assumed this was something that happens when you really mess up with giving insulin. Now I know its not so common...
I wish emergency vets would give a little advise over the phone... :roll:
 
Re: 32 BGs last night now shes doing bad today. Juice relate

I'm at work right now but was just checking in on your kitty this AM and hoping you are both doing better today. FWIW - i think most of us always keep a supply of pepcid AC and some baby food available for times like last nite. Eventually if things like this should happen again - you find what works best for your kitty.

Hoping everyone has a good day. :smile:
 
Re: 32 BGs last night now shes doing bad today. Juice relate

Yup you all were right, It was the Juice (Orange peach Mango) and milk combined with the extremes she went threw that really did it. She perked up very soon after I gave her the Pepcid. An hour later I feed her some more canned food and she ate it on her own. :smile: You guys are life saves, thank you!

Your so sweet Pattie Ty. A supply is a good idea, and now Im just going to go buy some honey for those low BGs.
 
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