3/26 Bud AMPS 419 PMPS 429 +3 270 +4 210 syringe question

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Stacym20

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I'm wondering if anyone has a noticed a difference in syringes? I started Levemir using BD syringes and I was seeing some good numbers but I was having problems being sure I had given the shot correctly as the needles on these are shorter. Buds a furry little guy with long hair. I had a couple ReliOn syringes left so I switched to those and then it seems I wasn't getting as good of numbers as I was with the BD syringes. Maybe it's a complete coincidence, but I thought it was worth an ask if anyone else had noticed differences in syringes.
 
I use 29 gauge syringes. The needle is longer, a little thicker also. Up until yesterday I had not given a fur shot! Milo didn't notice the difference when I switched.

Mine are from Walgreens. I don't like Walmart. I just bought one bag to see if he and I liked before buying a box.
 
Marje did a comparison one time between syringes and found that even within one brand, if you line up 10 and compare where their markings fall, they can be as much as 0.5u off from each other. It's crazy. A lot of people use calipers instead of the markings on syringes. I think most who have switched to that have been really happy, and some whose kitties were extremely sensitive to slight changes in insulin found their cat's blood sugar control improved. Max is one, Gracie is another that saw good success with that.

If you're interested in more about calipers, there is a link in the second section of this post "Where Can I Find?" that is about using calipers. It's under "Dosing with calipers."
 
The BD's come in 6mm and 8mm lengths. Which one do you have? Neko also has long hair. When I switched to the roll method of injections (described in the Testing and Shooting Tips note), I found the length wasn't as important. I use the BD's cause that's pretty much all that's available in Canada. I found the zero line was very inconsistent and moving to dosing with calipers really helped.

I have seen people notice differences when switching syringe types, so one unit on one brand may not be the same on another brand.
 
Mine are from Walgreens. I don't like Walmart. I just bought one bag to see if he and I liked before buying a box.

I don't like Walmart either. About the only thing I go there for is stuff for the kitties. I can go on my lunch at work so that makes it convenient.

Dosing with calipers scares me lol I don't know why. I guess you do what you have to do though.

We have analytical balances where I work so I just might do a comparison tomorrow of the 2 syringes. Sounds like a fun science experiment.

The BD are 6mm and the ReliOns are 8mm. I had to move up to the scruff where Bud has a bit of a bald spot to start shooting with the shorter needles and I've been shooting there ever since. Don't know how much that makes a difference in absorption.
 
I switched to the Terumos 3/8" with 1/2 unit markings. They were supposed to be discontinued but to my surprise Julie posted that they weren't. To be safe I ordered 5 more boxes. Okay, I'm hoarding because I've been dreading having to change again. I also use calipers. ADW has the syringes. Reorder number: SS30M3109R I'm holding my breath that they are the right ones.
 
Is it based on state whether or not you need a prescription to order syringes from ADW? In Illinois you can only get 20 at a time without a prescription, kind of annoying.
 
It's the same in California but you can ask your vet to fax them a prescription. After the first time they never asked for another. Call them. They have excellent customer service.
 
The BD's come in 6mm and 8mm lengths. Which one do you have? Neko also has long hair. When I switched to the roll method of injections (described in the Testing and Shooting Tips note), I found the length wasn't as important. I use the BD's cause that's pretty much all that's available in Canada. I found the zero line was very inconsistent and moving to dosing with calipers really helped.

I have seen people notice differences when switching syringe types, so one unit on one brand may not be the same on another brand.
Before changing to the roll method I used the shorter needles and I got a lot of fur injections and bent needles so I changed to the longer needles which I found much better but with using the roll method I can use either length needle now with no issues.
 
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