3/26 - Admiral Ackbar - AMPS 82; +8 75; PMPS: 70, +1 74; +3 63

He's doing really well!! Congratulations on getting him settled quickly and down into the greens.

Ty!

To all: Is there any risk to giving Zobaline/methyl-B12?

I'm afraid of screwing things up messing with his diet and he's moving so much better, but he still slips going down stairs sometimes. And every once in awhile the back legs look a little wonky.
 
Ty!

To all: Is there any risk to giving Zobaline/methyl-B12?

I'm afraid of screwing things up messing with his diet and he's moving so much better, but he still slips going down stairs sometimes. And every once in awhile the back legs look a little wonky.
In the past couple of days I've seen @Diane Tyler's Mom GA and @Laurie&Petey have a conversation about this. Hopefully, they'll weigh in.
 
Ty!

To all: Is there any risk to giving Zobaline/methyl-B12?

I'm afraid of screwing things up messing with his diet and he's moving so much better, but he still slips going down stairs sometimes. And every once in awhile the back legs look a little wonky.
To my knowledge there is little risk supplementing B12 and folic acid (another B vitamin), aka Zobaline. It is water soluble so any excess is passed through urine. Stress to the body depletes many nutrients including the B vitamins and studies have shown they can help regenerate nerves and calm the nervous system as well, they can give energy (lots of energy drinks are loaded with B vitamins) the idea is they help transport oxygen in the body -which as a side benefit may help Petey's low red blood cell issue.

Hope that helps, I have read it takes some time (nerve regeneration is very slow) just be consistent. :bighug:
 
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I agree with Laurie, When Tyler was first diagnosed he had diabetic neuropathy, The Zobaline was getting too expensive for me to keep using it.

This is what you should use for diabetic neuropathy
the Vitacost brand another member told me about
Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules

Same as Zobaline , but the Zobaline is so expensive as you know
This is the same thing
The only difference is the Zobaline has 200 mcgs of folic acid
So I bought the folic acid at the supermarket and crush it up and added it to the Vitacost brand
If you can't find the 200 mcg get the 400 mcg and cut it in half and crush it up and add it, some members didn't even add the folic acid and the neuropathy improved
The Vitacost brand is a capsule so just open it and pour the powder on the wet food
Has no taste, no need to crush it up, I still give it to Tyler every now and then and he has never tasted it in his food , I always add water to his food and just stir up the methyl B-12 good
I switched to the vitacost brand because the zobaline was too expensive,
Even though the vitacost brand is 5000 mcgs and the zobaline is 3000 mcgs
What they don't need they will pee out because it's water soluble.

The Zobaline is expensive for 60 pills, 30.00 some other places want 33.00
I used to use the Zobaline when I joined, then a member told me about the Vitacost brand .

It took about 2 months for Tyler to get back to walking normal, jumping on to the couch, running around
But every few weeks I did see a slight improvement
Some members didn't even add the folic acid to the vitacost brand and it still helped and the neuropathy was gone. It never raised his BG at all

https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-vitamin-b-12-methylcobalamin-5000-mcg-100-capsules-6


14.49 for 100 capsules
 
Look at all that green! You're doing great @EvanVanVan! The longer he spends in greens, the more his pancreas get a chance to heal and the stronger the remission.

To add to what @Diane Tyler's Mom GA said on Methyl B12, here is one more link for methyl B-12:
https://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-B12-Methylcobalamin-5000-mcg/dp/B08154TKT8/

Just to clarify, a drop dose is an actual dosage less than 0.1?
Yes. If he is all green at 0.1U, he might not need a drop dose and could go straight to an OTJ trial. Let's see what he does on 0.1U.
 
Did you shoot? Could you update the SS please?
If you shot at 70 and the +1 is also 70, that is very flat. I'd definitely get another test at +2.
Actually, double screw up... I did forget to enter PMPS somehow and then I typo-ed in the title of the thread when it was actually +1 74.

+3 63 now though..

Look at all that green! You're doing great @EvanVanVan! The longer he spends in greens, the more his pancreas get a chance to heal and the stronger the remission.

To add to what @Diane Tyler's Mom GA said on Methyl B12, here is one more link for methyl B-12:
https://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-B12-Methylcobalamin-5000-mcg/dp/B08154TKT8/


Yes. If he is all green at 0.1U, he might not need a drop dose and could go straight to an OTJ trial. Let's see what he does on 0.1U.

That's great to hear and thank you for the link!
 
Is he getting a little food after each test to keep him surfing? You might want to add a snack at +2 and +4 (even if you don't test then).
 
Is he getting a little food after each test to keep him surfing? You might want to add a snack at +2 and +4 (even if you don't test then).
Just to finish up this thread, he's been so far doing this well free feeding on LC wet food. He's just grazing enough to keep him surfing. The first couple times especially he dropped low early I was encouraging further eating putting Delectables but like you said so far his curves have been flat anyway, so I've gotten more comfortable with it.

Unfortunately, for the PM shot I'm asleep by +3 sometimes, almost always by +4 lol. Especially these last few shots that have drifted an hour later.
 
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