2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +6 78 +8 126 PMPS 191 +2 273 +8 281

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Her real AMPS 266

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=64697&p=702210&hilit=Ruby#p702210

Her +11 from last night was 274 (I edited this with the new AMPS so the question below is moot. I left it in because its referenced in the posts below :smile: )
This is also her +11 from last night. I'm not going to feed her and shoot her until 6:00 (it would be +12). Do I need to test her again before that or can I skip that one?

How her day is going...

AMPS 226
+1.5 230
+5.5 94
+6 78
+6.5 110
+7 112
+7.5 96
+8 124

I fed her some LC and a tiny bit of HC between +6 and +6.5. She started moving up at +8 without the aid of more food.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 274

I'm not sure I understand. Is the 274 +11 and +12 (preshot), or are you not yet at +12? If you are not yet at +12, you do need to test then. Always test at preshot. An awful lot can change between +11 and preshot.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 274

The 274 is +11 (I took it right around 5:00). The time for feeding and shooting is 6:00. I wasn't sure if I also needed to test her again right before I fed her, based on her history of usually going up in the hour right around +11 and +12 and also the fact that she's such a food spiker.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 266

And of course, because Ruby is Ruby, she dropped slightly between +11 and +12.

REAL AMPS 266
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 266 +1.5 230

+1.5 230
I'll sneak home in a few hours and test her again...hopefully around +5. She still has about half of her breakfast in her bowl.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 266 +1.5 230

Hi guys .. Nice yellows for ruby this morning! Do you by chance have an auto feeder? A lot of us here use them, in case we can't be home .. it's best to give small frequent meals throughout the day if possible .. have a great day guys!
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 266 +1.5 230

We don't but the husband works at home.

Ruby's normal MO is to eat about half her food in the morning (over the course of an hour or so). She will come back mid-day and eat some lunch. She doesn't always finish the whole bowl before dinner. Since our switch to Lantus I've started taking up the food bowl around 3:00 to get a better pre-shot number for the next cycle. This is pretty much her pattern both during the day and at night.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 266 +1.5 230

It's nice that she will eat a little throughout the day, less work for the beans! :lol:

I think you saw the reason for the +11 (or +10) this morning. Most cats will go up at least a little, if they are the same or lower it is often a sign of a downward trend and we can be prepared for dropping numbers later.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

+5.5 94

Would you look at that! A green spot for lunch!

Should I test her again in 30 just to make sure she's steady?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Hi Amy, like Ann said, the lower number at +1.5 signaled an active cycle. That 94 is nice, not too low....yes, I would get another test in 30 minutes. Has she eaten recently?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

She's eaten a bit more of her breakfast than usual by this time, but I'm not sure when (I managed to come home for lunch) other than its been in the past 4 hours. I can put a bit extra out, just in case. I'm supposed to head back to the office in about 35 minutes.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Ok, let's see where she's at when you test again. It never hurts to leave food out, it's really nice that she's a grazer. :smile:
Just asking in case...if she's heading down, do you have any flexibility to stay a bit longer?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

If I have to stay, I stay. To me that's not negotiable. :smile:
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Beautiful, green but not too low! Yes, get another test before you have to leave. ;-) If that is even lower give her a little MC or HC, but if she is just surfing a bit of LC for peace of mind would be good. Have you figured out when her nadir is? Eventually you can choose the type of food for a low depending on how close it come to her nadir.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

I freshened up her food (replaced the amount left from this morning with the same amount from a new can).

I've got no idea what her nadir is still. Do any of you have a guess?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Ok, good to know! It's really too soon to have a good feel for her nadir, another test will give you an idea of which way she's going.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

She's thrilled to be munching on the fresh food right now.

Actually, she pretty much licked the bowl clean that time!
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Ruby is taking to Lantus really well. Since you have only been on it a few days it is hard to tell, but it looks like around +6. IMHO don't worry about greens unless it is a fast or early drop. Often LC will slow things down, especially when approaching nadir. If you feed to high carbs after nadir it pushes numbers up and you lose the surf.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Well damn....+6 78

I'll hang out a bit and test again to make sure the food is kicking in.
Looks like I made the right choice in coming home.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

How soon after eating was the test? It usually takes 15 or 20 minutes to effect the BG. MC or HC might be needed to slow her a little more.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

I still have some gravy in the fridge from Saturday's fun. I can give her a few licks of that.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Would this call for a reduction tonight? If its the same case as Saturday, I'm willing to stay with the .75 to try to avoid a bounce. Who needs sleep anyway?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Let's see how this cycle plays out before we talk about dose, ok? :smile:

Sleep is nice when you can get it....I'm an insomniac. :lol:
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

She had about 1/4 teaspoon of HC food, mostly chucks covered in gravy as opposed to just gravy. It had been in the fridge so the gravy was a bit thick. She wouldn't lick it off of the spoon.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Yes, it did! She is pretty carb sensitive, she may not have needed the HC. She will likely wobble around, can you test again in 30 minutes? Do you have to leave?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

I can wait. I'll get the stinkeye from the boss but seeing I leave my desk for lunch about once a month, he'll get over it. :-D
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

As Ann said, you can leave food out if you must leave, but it would be good if you can get another test before you leave. I would leave food out when you go anyway.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Should I still have the husband pull the bowls at 3:00 or leave them down? Ruby's bowl is pretty much empty right now anyway.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Let's see where she goes on the next test.

I would think you would want to pick up the bowl at least 2 hours before PMPS...I suspect she will bounce, but she is new to Lantus and not much data yet, so it's hard to predict.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

If ir is pretty much cleaned out it doesn't matter, but it's a good habit to get into.That's another nice thing about the auto feeder, you can set it to turn to an empty compartment at +10 , especially nice in the middle of the night! :lol: :lol:

Sorry, I've been catching up on your condos and then realized you are using the AT meter (totally biling to the reminder in the subject this morning :roll: )

BTW here is a link to you condo yesterday http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=64697&p=702210&hilit=Ruby#p702210 we usually add that to our first post to make it easy for looking things up.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Think she's surfing now? I can be back home in about 4.5 hours.
Should I put a little more food out, just in case and have the husband pull it later?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Just so you know, we usually suggest two rising/surfing tests in a row without food influence before testing less often. She's surfing, but it could still be food influenced. I hate to bump her up too much, but to be on the safe side, I would leave out some LC with a bit of HC with it....in case she drops back down. Have him see if she eats it all, and add a bit if she seems hungry before +10...without testing, that's the best I can suggest.

ETA: I'm sorry Ann, I didn't know you were unaware of the AT...thanks for the link, I missed that. :smile:
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Its only 16 minutes until another 30 minute test. I can wait but that's probably pushing it.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Using the Alpha is why I tend to be overly paranoid...because a 78 on it is about a 58 on a human meter.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

Just grab another test if you can, even if you can't wait the full 30 minutes, then put the food mix down and go if you have to...it won't hurt her to surf a little high from the carbs, it's insurance. We all have to do the best we can, Amy. She has room, she's 30 pts above low numbers, and she's pretty carb sensitive. That was the idea of giving her HC, to bump her up so she has some room.

ETA: If you are really nervous, put more HC in the bowl....I don't want you to worry!
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

The carbs are wearing off. That's still not a huge drop. If you are not able to stay and test, I would put some more HC with LC in her bowl and have DH watch her.

Of course it's best if you can stay and keep testing, but I know it's not always possible for people to do that.....

What do you think?
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

I'm glad you are staying, but I know it's not always possible. I wouldn't give any more HC then...see where she goes without food.

Just a suggestion....I would really work on getting DH testing if at all possible! My DH was a chicken, it took me a while, but he did it for Mr Tinkles' safety.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

I've been at the company for 11 years and I've put up a lot over the years. They do cut me some slack now and then but I know better than to abuse it.
As it is I'm sitting here answering emails anyway.

She hasn't eaten anything for about 90 minutes. I'll test her again in 10 minutes and see where she's going before I give her anything. I think we're starting to see how she reacts to food.
 
Re: 2/27 Ruby AMPS (AT) 266 +1.5 230 +5.5 94!!

It won't always be this hard, Amy. Right now, you are gathering data, she is adjusting to the insulin, and she could still be building the depot. You both are doing really, really good...it's just an adjustment. Yes, you are getting good data, about response to food and Lantus....all data is good data in my book!

I do understand about work, that's why I didn't push about staying...
 
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