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dmartini4
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It's hard to say, at +4 last night he had dropped quite a bit
but we dont know what happened after that
If it were me I might hold until you can get a +6 and +8 so you can see what is really happening
If you feel you really want to I wouldnt go to one unit, I would only increase maybe .1 or.2
just to give you a quick example, I took Shakes +4 last night and he was 196
I didnt think he would drop too much more but I woke up one hour later at
his +5 and he was 112...that is why Sue always tells us to collect as much data as we can
to help see what is happening
I know it is hard with work, believe me...
but we dont know what happened after that
If it were me I might hold until you can get a +6 and +8 so you can see what is really happening
If you feel you really want to I wouldnt go to one unit, I would only increase maybe .1 or.2
just to give you a quick example, I took Shakes +4 last night and he was 196
I didnt think he would drop too much more but I woke up one hour later at
his +5 and he was 112...that is why Sue always tells us to collect as much data as we can
to help see what is happening
I know it is hard with work, believe me...
Sue and Oliver (GA)
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I see smaller dose increases in your future. Many people here use U100 needles and the conversion chart. Often increases in the .1 - .2 can make a difference.
Here's a recent thread from Health about what and where to buy:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63134
And the conversion chart. (since you are using U40 insulin with U100 needles)
http://felinediabetes.com/insulin-conversions.htm
I agree with Denise. Midcycle numbers will really help us see what is happening. You may need to increase if he is staying in yellows throughout the cycle, but only by a little. If he drops low at nadir, another approach may be better.
Here's a recent thread from Health about what and where to buy:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63134
And the conversion chart. (since you are using U40 insulin with U100 needles)
http://felinediabetes.com/insulin-conversions.htm
I agree with Denise. Midcycle numbers will really help us see what is happening. You may need to increase if he is staying in yellows throughout the cycle, but only by a little. If he drops low at nadir, another approach may be better.
Grayson & Lu
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Hey -
Here's most of what I sent to someone earlier about needles. You may be in the same boat as me - and apparently, not a bad place to be at all!!!
Lu-Ann
I had been using larger needles that the vet provided: Ulticare Vet Rx brand, U40, 1cc 29 gauge x 1/2". Interestingly, the box is labeled 'High Dose" (just noticed this!)
Because i'm doing "mini doses" of less that 1/2 unit, I've converted to the u100 needles - THESE ALSO REQUIRE USING THE CONVERSION CHART FOR QUANTITY OF DOSING referenced above. The first pack had lines for 1 unit, and were labeled 5, 10,.... After reading a thread on this board regarding needles w/ 1/2-unit markings, I went to WalMart and purchased ($2) one package of their ReliOn brand. They too have lines for 1 unit, are labeled 5, 10, ... but they have 1/2 unit markings as well. This is extremely helpful for older eyes. So the markings on these u100 bags are as follows:
BD 3/10 cc capacity, 30 G and 1/2" needle.
ReliOn 3/10 cc, 31 G and 5/16" needle.
Jury is still out on the needle length and gauge, but the U100 needles are VERY helpful for me. One thing you need to do, should you decide to try the other - KEEP THEM SEPARATE. The U40s are supposed to have red caps; the U100s are orange. I think this is standard, but make sure. It's also labeled on each needle what type insulin they are for.
Here's most of what I sent to someone earlier about needles. You may be in the same boat as me - and apparently, not a bad place to be at all!!!
Lu-Ann
I had been using larger needles that the vet provided: Ulticare Vet Rx brand, U40, 1cc 29 gauge x 1/2". Interestingly, the box is labeled 'High Dose" (just noticed this!)
Because i'm doing "mini doses" of less that 1/2 unit, I've converted to the u100 needles - THESE ALSO REQUIRE USING THE CONVERSION CHART FOR QUANTITY OF DOSING referenced above. The first pack had lines for 1 unit, and were labeled 5, 10,.... After reading a thread on this board regarding needles w/ 1/2-unit markings, I went to WalMart and purchased ($2) one package of their ReliOn brand. They too have lines for 1 unit, are labeled 5, 10, ... but they have 1/2 unit markings as well. This is extremely helpful for older eyes. So the markings on these u100 bags are as follows:
BD 3/10 cc capacity, 30 G and 1/2" needle.
ReliOn 3/10 cc, 31 G and 5/16" needle.
Jury is still out on the needle length and gauge, but the U100 needles are VERY helpful for me. One thing you need to do, should you decide to try the other - KEEP THEM SEPARATE. The U40s are supposed to have red caps; the U100s are orange. I think this is standard, but make sure. It's also labeled on each needle what type insulin they are for.
Sue and Oliver (GA)
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I think that's a good idea. You need to know what is happening in the middle of the cycle to know how/whether to change the dose.
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