2/11 Zoot! AMPS=168 +6=103; PMPS=116; +1=136; +2=147; +4=157

Cinnie Cole

Cinnie Cole

Member Since 2019
Doing okay, but have one problem that we a cannot figure out.

His poops remain a mix of light brown liquid and soft semi formed pieces and very acrid smell. This has been going on since before he was on LC wet, and before he was diagnosed May 2019. I am guessing it is not Lantus since it was happening before that. We have been to the vet time and time again, but his bloodwork is always good and does not indicate any issues.

We have tried antibiotics, probiotics, and s. boulardii. We have just started to give ground psyllium husks (basically, metamucil) at his mid-cycle "small" meals (not near when we give him a shot).

Could it be a food allergy? Any ideas what next step to take?

Do other people with diabetic cats have problems with chronic loose stools?


Yesterday's thread http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/2-10-zoot-amps-148-4-131-pmps-163-3-148.225458/
 
The only time Luci ever had those really stinky poos was when I was trying to feed her Young Again - it's a pork product that's dried. I was supposed to start it in very small amounts and I did...but OMG every time she used her LB we KNEW! And I wished I had a gas mask to deal with it...just that horrible...needless to say I passed that food along to someone else who said her cats loved it...no matter how often I tried to give it to Luci the results were the same - loose, yukky smelly poo...

So perhaps you want to keep notes about which foods you're giving him - and the resulting poo situation. It could very well be that he's allergic to one kind of meat versus another. I've heard that a lot of cats don't do well with the beef FF...others could possibly be the brand or the flavor. I think it's time to try to use one brand/flavor for a day - write it down + results. Next day try a different one and evaluate the results until you find that one or more is more offensive than the last - it may take more than a day to try a particular brand/flavor to see if there are any changes.

Best of luck to you! Nice AMPS!!
 
When we transitioned FA fully over to wet food we were buying the Fancy Feast variety packs and he was having very stinky soft poops, sometimes with blood in them (which was rather alarming). He checked out at the vet with no issues and we eventually figured out that he was intolerant to many of the flavours and with trial and error we discovered that Turkey and Giblets is the flavour that works best for him.

Now our current issue is our other non-diabetic cat - Molly has been having stinky diarrhea for the past few months. We have also tried everything, probiotics, s boullardi, benefiber, switching out food but its challenging to find a food that works for her that FA can eat as we cannot really separate them (can't close any doors in our house :facepalm:). The vet said it is likely a food intolerance so we are currently trying out Tiki Cat flavours as they seem to have limited ingredients. No luck so far though, so if you do figure it out, please keep us updated!
 
Sue and Luci said:
perhaps you want to keep notes about which foods you're giving him - and the resulting poo situation.
Click to expand...
Yeah - I wonder if it is chicken that is the problem. We use Weruva exclusively for all our cats, but
Sue and Luci said:
The only time Luci ever had those really stinky poos was when I was trying to feed her Young Again - it's a pork product that's dried. I was supposed to start it in very small amounts and I did...but OMG every time she used her LB we KNEW! And I wished I had a gas mask to deal with it...just that horrible...needless to say I passed that food along to someone else who said her cats loved it...no matter how often I tried to give it to Luci the results were the same - loose, yukky smelly poo...

So perhaps you want to keep notes about which foods you're giving him - and the resulting poo situation. It could very well be that he's allergic to one kind of meat versus another. I've heard that a lot of cats don't do well with the beef FF...others could possibly be the brand or the flavor. I think it's time to try to use one brand/flavor for a day - write it down + results. Next day try a different one and evaluate the results until you find that one or more is more offensive than the last - it may take more than a day to try a particular brand/flavor to see if there are any changes.

Best of luck to you! Nice AMPS!!
Click to expand...
Yes, I think that it is (past) time to switch foods to another protein - most everything he eats is chicken based, so turkey or lamb or venison; time to go to Dr. Lisa's chart. Thanks!
 
Marc & Jen said:
When we transitioned FA fully over to wet food we were buying the Fancy Feast variety packs and he was having very stinky soft poops, sometimes with blood in them (which was rather alarming). He checked out at the vet with no issues and we eventually figured out that he was intolerant to many of the flavours and with trial and error we discovered that Turkey and Giblets is the flavour that works best for him.

Now our current issue is our other non-diabetic cat - Molly has been having stinky diarrhea for the past few months. We have also tried everything, probiotics, s boullardi, benefiber, switching out food but its challenging to find a food that works for her that FA can eat as we cannot really separate them (can't close any doors in our house :facepalm:). The vet said it is likely a food intolerance so we are currently trying out Tiki Cat flavours as they seem to have limited ingredients. No luck so far though, so if you do figure it out, please keep us updated!
Click to expand...
Oh man I feel your pain! We have 7 cats, and all are eating the same LC diet but Zoot! and one non-diabetic have poop issues. And both have been to the vet and are healthy and have had stool samples tested. Damn. Let me know if Tikicat helps. As I mentioned in a prior post, I am going to investigate other proteins. Good luck with you poop progress.
 
@carfurby @Sue and Luci
So at PMPS he is 116. That is pretty low for him, and he does dip down, My vet says if his preshot is below 150 to skip the dose, but I don't want to abruptly stop since he is doing well. However this is the lowest I will have ever shot and I am concerned it is too much lantus. Advice please.
 
Last edited:
Are you able to stay up tonight and test and do you have plenty of supplies?

Most vets give advice about the no shoot number to people that don't home test.
 
carfurby said:
Are you able to stay up tonight and test and do you have plenty of supplies?

Most vets give advice about the no shoot number to people that don't home test.
Click to expand...
I think yes, I could stay up and I can test. I don't like the idea of him plummeting because I was sticking to 1.25u. He is so close to this "Alternatively, attempt a reduction when the cat regularly has its lowest BGs in the normal range of a non-diabetic healthy cat (50 - 80 mg/dL) while staying under 100 mg/dl overall for at least one week." that I was thinking of a reduction again. It has been 5 days.

Woe is me.;)
 
A lot of the time when you shoot low, the cat doesn't drop as much. However, there is a chance he could surf greens tonight and may earn a reduction. I'd hate to see you lose progress since you are able to test. I'd shoot his normal dose and get a +1 and a +2 and go from there. I can check in for a little while, but I can't stay up all night with you.
 
carfurby said:
A lot of the time when you shoot low, the cat doesn't drop as much. However, there is a chance he could surf greens tonight and may earn a reduction. I'd hate to see you lose progress since you are able to test. I'd shoot his normal dose and get a +1 and a +2 and go from there. I can check in for a little while, but I can't stay up all night with you.
Click to expand...
No problem about your staying up. I will test tonight. But I am nervous.
 
These are beautiful numbers to shoot - nice blues- what was his PMPS?

You're doing great - just think of those greens you'll need to shoot as he's on the road to Remission....it's coming :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top