? 2/10 Max - Better numbers, but vomiting!! HELP.

Look at his gums, if he'll let you. Are they pink and moist? If they are pale and sticky, then he is dehydrated and will need fluids.

Do you think your vet will take you right away tomorrow? If he's still not able to keep food down, he definitely needs to be seen tomorrow. Liver damage can happen very quickly in cats that don't get enough calories.

As for tonight's dose, I'm torn. If he has no history of DKA, I'd be tempted to skip because he hasn't had food in his tummy all day.
 
Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey said:
Look at his gums, if he'll let you. Are they pink and moist? If they are pale and sticky, then he is dehydrated and will need fluids.

Do you think your vet will take you right away tomorrow? If he's still not able to keep food down, he definitely needs to be seen tomorrow. Liver damage can happen very quickly in cats that don't get enough calories.

As for tonight's dose, I'm torn. If he has no history of DKA, I'd be tempted to skip because he hasn't had food in his tummy all day.
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No history of DKA....unless this is it! :s
 
Another possibility although rare is maybe the food is bad. Do you have a totally different brand he has never had before to try?
 
I have some ketone strips, just gotta catch him in the box! I'm about to try some of that chicken baby food right now....wish us luck!!

What do I do about shot, guys??
 
I've been chatting with a couple other veterans, and the consensus seems to be that, if the vomiting continues, Max needs to go to the ER for a shot of Cerenia.

As I mentioned above, with no food all day, I would skip the shot.

ETA: When you have a chance, be sure to put a note in the comments section of your SS about the vomiting. It will also help explain why you are skipping (if you do).
 
Feeding him on the hour to make vomiting time easier to track. Roads are very snowy/icy so really really hoping to avoid the ER vet. I have Beech Nut chicken in chicken broth--ingredients: chicken, chicken broth.

Edit: Fed him just now, 6:00 EST. I mixed the baby food with some warm water. He was very interested in eating. He wanted to eat the whole lot I had prepared for him but I only gave him about a tablespoon or so.

FINGERS AND PAWS CROSSED HE KEEPS IT DOWN!! Also: skipping shot. I can't trust he'll keep this food down.
 
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Sigh...24 minutes later and he puked it all back out...

He's hungry though. He's trying to eat. He just can't keep it down.
 
Is there an OTC form of Cerenia I can give? Or something like it to help vomiting in cats?
 
I don’t know if you’ve seen my Primer on Pancreatitis but it might help you especially if you go to the ER.

I, personally, don’t mess around with vomiting like that. Many years ago, one of my civvies vomited bile twice and he wasn’t a puker. I took him right to the ER and he had pancreatitis. The ER vet said since I got him in right away and they started supportive treatment, his recovery was very quick. Vomiting cats can become quickly dehydrated and potentially get to the point where they can’t even keep fluid down.

If you do take him in and get subq fluids for him, this post on giving subq fluids at home will help you if you’ve never done it.

ETA: we cross posted and I see you are at the ER. I’m really glad. Paws crossed and many vines.
 
Good luck! They may push for tests but remember, do what you are comfortable with and what you can afford. There is no judgement here. I think #1 priority right now is cerenia. Also ask for pill form of cerenia that you can give for the days following that Max will be at home.

Edit: Fluids is also tied as the #1 priority.
 
Wish us luck! Anyone wanna stay around for company?

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I'm so sorry to hear Max is having tummy troubles today :(

I can sympathize...not for Luci necessarily...but for me...sometimes I just can't keep anything down - it's usually because I have the flu - I have a 'delicate' stomach... I found for me personally not to eat anything was the easiest thing to do...just give my tummy a rest. The only thing I'd have would be a little water...but otherwise nothing else would stay down...I'm not sure if cats can get the flu - but perhaps it's just a passing GI thing. I hope the vet is able to give him something to help with the nausea/vomiting. So difficult when it's someone who can't tell you how they feel at all. Hang in there ... such a tough way to spend Sunday evening :(
 
nslade001 said:
Hi, I just got on and was reading through and was about to suggest bringing to the ER, am so glad you brought him...acute, frequent vomiting is also a symptom of ingesting a foreign object, I definitely would request xrays just to rule that out. Hopefully that's not the case, thinking of you with love, Nikki
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Since he seems otherwise fine, I can't help but wonder if this is the case. I hope they do suggest x-rays, although I know you don't want to/can't really spend extra money. I just find it odd that he is eager to eat and seems to feel okay, but can't keep anything down.

Please keep us posted as you can. More vines from here. :bighug:
 
Chem test should tell you if there is an infection. Are you doing the spec or snap pancreatitis test? Spec will give you a value. The snap will give you a positive or negative. I do wonder if the snap gives you faster results? I can’t remember.

Did they start treatment?
 
If it’s FB, the treatment is still fluids and cerenia, I believe. Exploratory surgery is the ultimate treatment but sometimes xrays don’t work and an ultrasound is needed to confirm if there is a FB
 
The SNAP gives immediate results which is what is needed at this point. Only negative is if in the gray zone it won’t show as positive. I tend to agree with Tricia about pancreatitis as Max was always inappetent. I think it’s something else but don’t know what. The vet should have answers.
 
Crista & Ming said:
Chem test should tell you if there is an infection. Are you doing the spec or snap pancreatitis test? Spec will give you a value. The snap will give you a positive or negative. I do wonder if the snap gives you faster results? I can’t remember.

Did they start treatment?
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They just took him back. I'm not sure what kind of test it is. They're doing two blood tests and the p-titis test. They only offered one kind of p-titis test so maybe they only have the one? After test results we will go from there. I will probably be here awhile!
 
They're OUT of pancreatitis tests--are you kidding me?! It must be the snap because they said they don't currently have any in stock. Ugh!!
 
Giomax said:
They just took him back. I'm not sure what kind of test it is. They're doing two blood tests and the p-titis test. They only offered one kind of p-titis test so maybe they only have the one? After test results we will go from there. I will probably be here awhile!
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They would only have the Snap. The other one has to be sent out and you would not get results fior at least a day.
 
OMG! How could an ER not have that. I’m so sorry you are experiencing this. What are they suggesting to do? Is there any chance he could have an obstruction?
 
tiffmaxee said:
OMG! How could an ER not have that. I’m so sorry you are experiencing this. What are they suggesting to do? Is there any chance he could have an obstruction?
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They did the other blood tests, waiting on the results for those. Depending on results, xrays may follow. They said they normally have the snaps in Stock, they just happen to be out right now! Ugh.
 
No ketones! But blood work came back showing signs of pancreatitis. I'm not sure what triggered it and why it set off so violently today out of nowhere, but we're doing Cerenia and some pain meds to get him back up and eating again.
 
Definitely ask about fluids. There and at home. I assume they are giving him a Cerenia shot? What pain med? Hopefully it's Bupe and they give you some to take home, too. Also an appetite stimulant is a good idea. I prefer Cypro but most vets give Mirtazapine.

It's a good idea to follow up with your own vet tomorrow about the p-titis tests, too.
 
They are giving him some fluids here. I'm not sure if they'll give me any to take home but Max is normally a very active drinker so with the Cerenia on board I'm pretty confident he'll stay hydrated at home.
 
Even if they drink water, sometimes it's not enough so def ask for a bag of fluids.

Although, I know pharmacies here in Canada allow you to buy bags of saline. Not sure if it's the same in the states.
 
Yes, you can buy bags of fluids in pharmacies here, but I'm not sure if you need a prescription - I've always gotten them from the vet. I know you need a script to get the needles.
 
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