12/8 Webster AMPS=222+2=182+3=142+5.5=136+7=160

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Gave Webster's shot this morning and saw a small drop of blood at the injection site. Felt around and seemed to be a little swollen in the area. Anyone ever experience this?

Reduced his AMPS portion from 2oz to 1.5 oz to create new 1/2oz snack @ +8. New schedule goes as follows:

1.5oz@PS
1oz@+1
0.5oz@+2
0.5oz@=3
0.5oz@+8

Edit: Aside from a moderate drop in BG this morning, today has proven to be one of his best days yet.
 
Re: 12/8 Webster AMPS=222

Hi Mike,
It sometimes happens that you knick a capillary when giving a shot. I call these "blood shots". Nothing to worry about. The insulin may begin to work faster, but that's about it. I haven't ever noticed that the area of the shot was swollen, however. Try putting a cool compress and some pressure on it and examine it again in a few hours.

Nice AMPS for Webster! Have a fine day and good luck with the new feeding schedule.

Ella & Rusty
 
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Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA) said:
Hi Mike,
It sometimes happens that you knick a capillary when giving a shot. I call these "blood shots". Nothing to worry about. The insulin may begin to work faster, but that's about it. I haven't ever noticed that the area of the shot was swollen, however. Try putting a cool compress and some pressure on it and examine it again in a few hours.

Nice AMPS for Webster! Have a fine day and good luck with the new feeding schedule.

Ella & Rusty
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Thanks Ella. The swelling seems to have gone away from what I can tell.

Numbers are looking good this morning. He dropped a little faster by +2 than I would like but seems to be okay. He just finished up his 3rd portion so I'll retest at +3 and see where he is at.
 
Nice blue surf for Webster today.

You want him to spend as much time in green as possible - i think you're doing quite the balancing act to try to slow down his drops but still let him get into greens. He had lots of greens on this dose before, so let's hope he settles in and gets there again.
 
Blues seem to be getting a bit more popular with our boys. Maybe they've decided that they should behave, since Christmas is coming up. Santa knows which kitties are plotting conspiracies, you two!
 
Very nice surf...inching closer and closer to the lagoon in a nice flat form instead of a steep dive. Great work, guys!!
 
julie & punkin (ga) said:
Nice blue surf for Webster today.

You want him to spend as much time in green as possible - i think you're doing quite the balancing act to try to slow down his drops but still let him get into greens. He had lots of greens on this dose before, so let's hope he settles in and gets there again.
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I do want to see him in the green however, I still don't understand when I should let him drop down or when I should slow him down. On hand if I let him go down at a rapid rate he ends up bouncing. On the other hand, if I feed him his BG's end up stabilizing and stay in the 100's. How do I determine when to let him go and when to feed his drop?
 
Marycatmom said:
Blues seem to be getting a bit more popular with our boys. Maybe they've decided that they should behave, since Christmas is coming up. Santa knows which kitties are plotting conspiracies, you two!
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Webster told Santa that all he wants for Christmas is stable BG's.
 
i think that's a trial and error thing, mike. there's no exact road map in most things FD, just things to try that work with some cats to see if they work with your cat. There's nothing wrong with a blue surf too. And if he gets used to the blue surf, maybe then you can let him drop down to green when he's going down. He didn't have any big drops today, which is fantastic.

you're doing fine - wish i had a more precise answer for you, but i think you're handling it as well as you could. Drops of more than 50 points per hour are likely to trigger bounces in many cats, so i'd be trying to avoid anything like that.
 
Hi there :cool:

Beautiful blue surf there today :-D
(and negative on the ketones!)

julie & punkin (ga) said:
There's nothing wrong with a blue surf too. And if he gets used to the blue surf, maybe then you can let him drop down to green when he's going down.
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I'll add my voice to Julies here. .
julie & punkin (ga) said:
He didn't have any big drops today, which is fantastic.
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..and here :cool:

Buy the way, how old is Webster? Any other health issues?
 
I also agree with Sandy and Julie and especially on Julie's comment that it's trial and error. Unfortunately, our little FD babies don't come with instruction manuals. It would be so much easier if they did. And then some of them like to change just when we have it figured out.

Nice a.m. cycle today!!
 
Sandy and Black Kitty said:
Hi there :cool:

Beautiful blue surf there today :-D
(and negative on the ketones!)

julie & punkin (ga) said:
There's nothing wrong with a blue surf too. And if he gets used to the blue surf, maybe then you can let him drop down to green when he's going down.
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I'll add my voice to Julies here. .
julie & punkin (ga) said:
He didn't have any big drops today, which is fantastic.
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..and here :cool:

Buy the way, how old is Webster? Any other health issues?
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Thanks Sandy.

Webster is about 5 years old. I'm unsure of any other health issues. The only time that I ever took him to the vet was when he came down with the DKA and other than diabetes and DKA they mentioned a possible infection (didn't specify or pinpoint) and gave AB.
 
Sandy and Black Kitty said:
I see he is back to yellow at PM+4.5

further testing tonight could be very revealing.

will he be getting a +8 snack on the overnight?
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Instead of giving him a +8 snack at night as I did during the day, I gave him the extra .5oz at +4 simply because he seems to sleep through the night. If I were to leave a +8 snack in the timer, he would probably wake up before I do (around +11) and eat the food in his bowl which it which will throw off his AM readings.

So his evening feeding went like this: 1.5oz@PMPS, 1oz@+1 0.5oz@+2, 0.5oz@+3, 0.5oz@+4.

Can anyone explain to me the pattern of sharp rises towards the end of his cycle? I understand that the Lantus is wearing off but how does he go from surfing in the 100's all day to 400+ by PMPS? After nadir he seemed to rise on average 50 point per hour.

I saw that number @PM+4.5 and decided to turn in for the night. While he was falling at a moderate rate, he was at 300 with about 2 hours or less until nadir. Perhaps I should have set the alarm and took a reading at +6 to +7?

What do you mean "further testing tonight could be very revealing"? Are you thinking that he might have crashed hard after I went to bed?
 
When I see a really fast rise at the end of a cycle....I mean super fast, then it's usually what we call BIPO or big insulin poop out. With Webster, it could be a bounce, BIPO, or both. It's hard to tell yesterday because with BIPO, you'd see it super fast (within a couple hours of the lower reading) towards the end of the cycle. So if you had had a test at +9 and he was already close to pink, definitely BIPO.

It doesn't mean the dose is not right. It could be the old absorption issue,

Sandy meant it would be interesting to see if he's coming back down later in the cycle and causing these spikes up.

I think after today, if there is no lower blue or green, we should talk about an increase.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
When I see a really fast rise at the end of a cycle....I mean super fast, then it's usually what we call BIPO or big insulin poop out. With Webster, it could be a bounce, BIPO, or both. It's hard to tell yesterday because with BIPO, you'd see it super fast (within a couple hours of the lower reading) towards the end of the cycle. So if you had had a test at +9 and he was already close to pink, definitely BIPO.

It doesn't mean the dose is not right. It could be the old absorption issue,

Sandy meant it would be interesting to see if he's coming back down later in the cycle and causing these spikes up.

I think after today, if there is no lower blue or green, we should talk about an increase.
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Very interesting. This is the first time that I heard about BIPO.

I'm on board with a dose increase. Yesterdays numbers looked good but all of the other days that he has been @0.50u he has been pretty high. I'm guessing that the .50u dose should have settled down by now.
 
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