12/8 Henry PMPS 85 +1 78 +1.5 70 +2 71 +2.5 60 +3 63 + 4 75 +6 99

Great job shooting, Robert. Now let’s see that Lantus flat cycle! I know this is the first green you’ve shot and you aren’t sure about it all but you don’t want him to get too full if he comes down once he onsets.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Great job shooting, Robert. Now let’s see that Lantus flat cycle! I know this is the first green you’ve shot and you aren’t sure about it all but you don’t want him to get too full if he comes down once he onsets.
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OK I should check every (30) Minutes and I have PMPS (85) +1 (78) & +1.5 (70) and then check again at +2

Now are far as his feeding for +1 and +1.5 was this a bit premature, unnecessary?
 
Golf2015 said:
OK I should check every (30) Minutes and I have PMPS (85) +1 (78) & +1.5 (70) and then check again at +2

Now are far as his feeding for +1 and +1.5 was this a bit premature, unnecessary?
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This is something you will have to learn about Henry....what signals is he sending you about what he will do. I absolutely knew that, when Gracie was on Lantus, if her +1 did not have a spike, I needed to feed through her onset. This is part of “know thy cat”. You might overcarb him at some point but that’s still a lesson.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
This is something you will have to learn about Henry....what signals is he sending you about what he will do. I absolutely knew that, when Gracie was on Lantus, if her +1 did not have a spike, I needed to feed through her onset. This is part of “know thy cat”. You might overcarb him at some point but that’s still a lesson.
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OK
 
At this point, it is a bit of a food experiment, you want to find just enough carbs to keep him flat, so let's see what Henry thinks of the 19%. And don't forget to breathe, Henry is still in safe numbers, you are doing just fine. See how you are at +3
 
Nice +3, hoping Henry is getting a nice surf going . Maverick would have high-tailed it into the blues with 19%, this is where getting to know how your own cat responds to carbs and insulin comes into play :)
 
Christie & Maverick said:
Nice +3, hoping Henry is getting a nice surf going . Maverick would have high-tailed it into the blues with 19%, this is where getting to know how your own cat responds to carbs and insulin comes into play :)
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Oh really 19% Carb is somewhat potent with respect to BG?
 
Golf2015 said:
Do I still maintain 30 minute checks?
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I think just since you want to catch any further drop, if he decides, I'd check at +3.5 or +4. We want to see him flat, since you fed some HC, that can wear off a bit more quickly, The early dropping cycles can be tricky too, or at least I found them to have a bit more action, from my experience.
 
Golf2015 said:
Do I still maintain 30 minute checks?
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How would you feel about seeing how he’d do at +4? He’s flat with the 19% and it might not yet have had the full effect. But...because this is the first time you’ve dealt with lower numbers early, we don’t know if he might drop by +4.

Sorry for the delay in response. The site is working.
 
Henry's BG reading @ + 4 (75)

Henry's ear is so peppered.

He has been pricked on the ears today (14) times

Not including pricks with no blood
 
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Henry's BG reading @ + 4 (75)

Henry's ear is so peppered
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Nice and flat. How about 1 tsp LC to keep him surfing? What are the numbers in parentheses on his SS in +2 and +3 cells?

When do you think you should test again? Do you use Neosporin with pain relief on his ears? Do you alternate ears?
 
Yes We have been using Neosporin pain relief and we do alternate ears
Henry whines now his ears are tender.
I fixed the spreadsheet numbers in () these numbers were mid points check +1.5, +2.5
I'll give him 1 tsps of low carb now
He will get his (80) calories at 11:30pm (+5.5)
 
The AlphaTrak 2 box or the package does not state the lance gauge

I can tell you the diameter of the lance is 0.014" or in mm it would .014 times 25.4 = .335mm

So I look up .335mm diameter which points to 28g

Would + 6 be good for bg check
 
Golf2015 said:
The AlphaTrak 2 box or the package does not state the lance gauge

I can tell you the diameter of the lance is 0.014" or in mm it would .014 times 25.4 = .335mm

So I look up .335mm diameter which points to 28g

Would + 6 be good for bg check
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I’d get some 31g lancets. That will be easier on his ears; 28g is pretty big. Once the ears “learn” to bleed, a small gauge can be used and that will help.

ok...+6 but I’m sorry, I will be “lights out” ;) I believe @Christie & Maverick is watching out and @Bandit's Mom should be on soon.

Henry is doing so great!
 
Hi Robert, I am here. Will check in at +6.
When you get the time, could you update his SS comments with what you have fed and when. Thanks :-)
 
Looking good in this condo tonight :D

Housekeeping item -
to help us better help you the items that need to be placed on the ss as they happen are
  • +hour
  • BG
  • amount fed (if applicable) this should be expressed in oz. teaspoons (t) or tablespoons (T)
  • carb% fed.
When trying to steer BG numbers it’s important to make sure a kitty will eat if you need them to. The number of calories doesn’t tell us if kittys belly is getting full, volume does.:cool:
 
Bandit's Mom said:
I see you've updated that in the SS now :)
Looking good. He is staying up - even heading higher without food.
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Bandit's Mom

The reason I express 80 calories on his main feeding times:

1) Henry is overweight and we are force to measure the food in calories for a record to maintain weight lose

2) 320 calories is for a 16-1/2lbs cat Henry at his height of obesity was 25lbs he now is 21lbs and needs to lose 4lbs over the next few months

3) That's why we feed four times daily at 80 calories each for a total of 320

4) Henry when he was at 25lbs was consuming 433 calories a day based on RER chart

This is our chart we made up for fancy feast for weight control below
 
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Looking good in this condo tonight :D

Housekeeping item -
to help us better help you the items that need to be placed on the ss as they happen are
  • +hour
  • BG
  • amount fed (if applicable) this should be expressed in oz. teaspoons (t) or tablespoons (T)
  • carb% fed.
When trying to steer BG numbers it’s important to make sure a kitty will eat if you need them to. The number of calories doesn’t tell us if kittys belly is getting full, volume does.:cool:
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The reason I express 80 calories on his main feeding times:

1) Henry is overweight and we are force to measure the food in calories for a record to maintain weight lose

2) 320 calories is for a 16-1/2lbs cat Henry at his height of obesity was 25lbs he now is 21lbs and needs to lose 4lbs over the next few months

3) That's why we feed four times daily at 80 calories each for a total of 320

4) Henry - when he was at 25lbs was consuming 433 calories a day based on RER chart

See the attached file this what we use to make sure Henry is not being overfed
 

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I understand. I could add a separate column in the SS for you to track calories. Some folks also have separate columns for AM and PM food comments.

From our perspective, we need to know what Henry has eaten in terms of carb% and how much of it and at what time, so we can see how food is affecting his numbers.
Quicker for us to read it off the SS rather than read through the whole thread. Especially when kitties are dropping low and the caregiver needs input urgently.
 
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I understand. I could add a separate column in the SS for you to track calories. Some folks also have separate columns for AM and PM food comments.

From our perspective, we need to know what Henry has eaten in terms of carb% and how much of it and at what time, so we can see how food is affecting his numbers.
Quicker for us to read it off the SS rather than read through the whole thread. Especially when kitties are dropping low and the caregiver needs input urgently.
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Are suggesting we count tsps for each structured feeding which would vary depending on which FF we feed him
 

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Golf2015 said:
Are suggesting we count tsps for each structured feeding which would vary depending on which FF we feed him
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It need not be tsp, it can also be in terms of cans (1/2 can etc) or oz for his regular meals. Do you adjust his +5.5 meals for the food he has had earlier in the cycle. Reduce it accordingly, that is?
 
Golf2015 said:
The reason I express 80 calories on his main feeding times:

1) Henry is overweight and we are force to measure the food in calories for a record to maintain weight lose

2) 320 calories is for a 16-1/2lbs cat Henry at his height of obesity was 25lbs he now is 21lbs and needs to lose 4lbs over the next few months

3) That's why we feed four times daily at 80 calories each for a total of 320

4) Henry - when he was at 25lbs was consuming 433 calories a day based on RER chart

See the attached file this what we use to make sure Henry is not being overfed
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I didn’t mean to imply calories are not important to track, it’s a good idea to do so when weight is an issue, (both a need to lose weight or gain weight) or when battling ketones. It’s just that when it comes to steering BG we need to quickly know times of meals relative to tests in +hours. carbs and volume to be able to properly assess next steps.
It saves time which is important. It can get busy around here and we want to be able to help everyone who needs it.
 
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Bandit's Mom said:
It need not be tsp, it can also be in terms of cans (1/2 can etc) or oz for his regular meals. Do you adjust his +5.5 meals for the food he has had earlier in the cycle. Reduce it accordingly, that is?
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Henry got his full 80 calories so technically he's gaining weight when the additional tsps are in play for holding down drops in BG
 
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