12/29 China PMPS 218,+2 182,+4 153,+6 149 Food question

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Chris & China (GA)

Chris & China (GA)

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Good morning LL!!

Got another big drop between AMPS and +3 :sad: I think I'm going to have to start adding carbs to her Pre-shot meals and see if it flattens her out some, but not exactly sure about how to do it other than to just go back to feeding her at least SOME Fancy Feast along with the 0% raw

If this craziness can't be figured out by the time I'm out of the raw food, I'm not going to continue buying it. She did MUCH better on FF so why spend the extra money for raw?

Have a great Sunday everyone
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243

I hope China stops her crazy drops soon and gives you some flatter surfs.
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243

Hi Chris,
Good luck with the food decision.
I just saw the pic of China's cliff dive in the yesterday's condo.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry, not funny....
Fingers and paws crossed you'll get her flat!
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243,+6 187 Food ?

Awww, sorry about the food confusion :o I hope someone can give you some feedback on that. Hopefully you can figure out how to get a flatter, blue/green cat :-D Have a nice Sunday :cool:
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243,+6 187 Food ?

I think it is worth giving it a try to see if it makes a difference. Sienne and Marje are probably knowledgeable in this area. I am not sure how much to give. Is the raw food a lot less calories than fancy feast? You could at least rule it out if there is no difference.
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243,+6 187 Food ?

She's getting about the same number of calories. I had figured she was at about 210 per day and that's about what she's getting with the raw...the only major change was the carb percentage down to 0% from the FF which are an average of about 5%

Would love to have some ideas before I do the PM shot...especially if she's back in the 300's (or worse..she was darn close to 400 this morning)
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243,+6 187,PMPS 218 Food

Trying to add a few carbs (small teaspoon of FF) to her pre-shot meals and see what happens. Sure seems incredibly wrong to be adding carbs though. Have given her little bits of FF today and although she still dropped a big amount at +3, she also didn't see any green today so not sure what's going on. I didn't give her much though...giving her a little more with tonight's pre-shot meal

Will get a +2 and if she's still diving, I'll probably give her a "treat" of FF instead of boiled chicken

Unless somebody else has some better ideas for me to try!?!?
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243,+6 187,PMPS 218 Food

it's my understanding that we don't try to get cats to eating zero carbs. in nature, they would be eating mice and birds, which both would have some grains in their stomach. I read someplace (maybe on catinfo.org) that those would be around 5-7% carbs.

Many cats do better with some carbs. we fed around 4-5% and it seemed fine.

I think i would revisit that decision and consider going back to having some carbs in china's diet. everything under 10% is considered low carb.
 
Re: 12/29 China AMPS 393,+3 288,+4 243,+6 187,PMPS 218 Food

I wasn't really trying to get her on zero carbs, but the raw diet she's on is listed on the chart as 0% so that's what I've been going with. There are some raws with higher, but she doesn't like the flavors of those that I've tried and I can't afford to buy a big bag of frozen raw and have her not eat it

I had wanted to get the benefit of the raw diet as well as the lower carb, but it looks like China's not going to do well on a "raw only" diet
 
Re: 12/29 China PMPS 218,+2 182 Food question

Hmmmm..well MAYBE adding just a tiny bit of carb helped? Only a 36 point drop instead of a 236 point drop

Maybe I should just mix some FF in with the rest of her raw and if she gets better numbers, we'll know why she's been so wonky on the raw only diet. Of course I'd be losing the benefits of feeding raw in the first place, but if her numbers are better on Fancy Feast, if she doesn't start showing some numbers that make sense, I'll probably just use up this last bunch of raw I bought and put her back on FF

This is just plain weird, but China seems to like being "unusual"

recap so far

AMPS 393
+3 288
+4 243
+6 187

PMPS 218
+2 182
 
hi chris! i was looking a little more at China's ss. It looks like you're feeding her at preshot and +6, and then something in between, is that right?

I wonder a couple of things. I'm wondering if feeding her at +6 is contributing to the higher preshot numbers - if the food is getting into her system after the insulin is beginning to wane. I also wonder if feeding her most of her food around preshot and +1 would help her stop diving by +2. One of the goals is to flatten the cycle so that enough insulin can be given to move the whole BG range down.

If you want to feed the early in the cycle mini-meals, you don't increase the total volume of food, you just divide it up in the first couple of hours after her shot. I fed punkin at preshot and +3 and he survived the 9 hrs til the next shot with only chicken breast treats when i tested him. For China, I might try to give more at +1 to stop the drop.

Her numbers did look a little better on the Fancy Feast.

anyway, that's my 2 cents worth for the evening. no charge. :-D
 
Hi Chris - my Mannie was a classic diver. I changed how I fed him to help flatten him out some. his meals were given at PS, +1, +2, +3. with a snack about +9 or so. It took a little time, but it did help with the dives, alot. I have read too somewhere here that some beans will continue to feed raw, but also feed a 3/5% LC fuds.
 
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