12/27 Bama Kitty AMPS 179 +4 202 +8 227; PMPS 180 +4 143 +7 130

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Yesterday: 12/26 Bama Kitty AMPS 308 +4 219 +8 149; PMPS 175 +4 140 +8 149

Bama continues to do well with his sub-q fluids, syringed water, and new eating schedule. I have started feeding every 4 hours--pre-shot, +4, and +8. This continues into the overnight hours but it means I only have to get out of bed twice. I am usually testing each time. Unless he goes below 100 or seems to be dropping rapidly, I am not feeding and testing as much as before. I think I have a better understanding of how insulin and food are affecting him and can make adjustments as necessary. He is eating about 2 3oz cans of FF every day plus Dr. Elsey's Chicken kibble with some Methylcobalamin [B12] sprinkled into his pre-shot meals and psyllium husk powder in pumpkin or FF also at pre-shot. He tends to not want to eat this "doctored" part of his meal. Thus he gets dry food as incentive and sometimes Fortiflora. I have found if I withhold the kibble, his numbers seem to be lower, even though Dr. Elsey's is supposed to be under 5% carb. But we do what we can do. I am still mulling over an insulin increase soon. He came off his bounce yesterday and I am interested in seeing if he has reached bottom, yet. This cycle should be the telling point.
 
Did you manage to get a script from your vet for daily SubQs? Or is he still expecting you to buy supplies from him at a premium?

Dr. Elsey's does seem to elevate blood sugar in some cats even though it's low carb - I don't know why. I always wondered whether Bandit woud have done better if she would ea low carb wet - but that is moot since she won't even look at wet food.

Anyway, your approach is what I am following too - with CKD + diabetes, I am focussing on feeding her what she will eat and trying to keep her under the renal threshold. Need to pick our battles!
 
Did you manage to get a script from your vet for daily SubQs? Or is he still expecting you to buy supplies from him at a premium?

Dr. Elsey's does seem to elevate blood sugar in some cats even though it's low carb - I don't know why. I always wondered whether Bandit woud have done better if she would ea low carb wet - but that is moot since she won't even look at wet food.

Anyway, your approach is what I am following too - with CKD + diabetes, I am focussing on feeding her what she will eat and trying to keep her under the renal threshold. Need to pick our battles!
Haven't asked yet, will do so before having to replenish supplies. Meanwhile, will look at Chewy.com and ThrivingPets.com to determine best pricing. Not sure if it is just the fluids that need a script. I think I may be able to get the needles and maybe the tubing [not sure what that is called] without a vet's prescription. If so, I can go ahead and order those. If I have to buy another bag or two of fluid from the vet to hold us over, I'll do that. I still need to test out some lower phosphorus food to see if Bama will eat it. I have a list to go by so I'll get a can or two of each. Then what he likes, I can order from Chewy.

Is Bandit still doing well? How often do you get labs done for her?
 
maybe the tubing [not sure what that is called]
IV set or venoset or giving set :-)

Is Bandit still doing well? How often do you get labs done for her?
Bandit is much better. No longer needs Ondansetron or Famotidine, but she's only eating HC (high phos) kibble and turning her nose up at everything else. I still give her 60-70 mls of fluid every day. I think that really helps (She is 10lbs). Her spirits and appetite are great. I haven't got her labs done in 2.5 months. I'm thinking I'll get them done 3 months from the last one.
 
IV set or venoset or giving set :)


Bandit is much better. No longer needs Ondansetron or Famotidine, but she's only eating HC (high phos) kibble and turning her nose up at everything else. I still give her 60-70 mls of fluid every day. I think that really helps (She is 10lbs). Her spirits and appetite are great. I haven't got her labs done in 2.5 months. I'm thinking I'll get them done 3 months from the last one.
I thought she was eating Dr. Elsey's which I thought was fairly low phosphorus or maybe you can't get it in India?
 
I thought she was eating Dr. Elsey's which I thought was fairly low phosphorus or maybe you can't get it in India?
Yup. She was eating Young Again and Dr. Elsey's till her CKD took a turn for the worse in September. I'm not sure if she associated these foods with feeling terrible when that happened, but she completely went off them after that.
 
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