12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 + 5 189

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Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

Such wonderful news Violet!!!! You 2 are amazing and can overcome anything :-D :-D
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

Thanks for the SQ fluid info! Awesome !!! How do i know if I need to give them to her? I know the Dr gave them last night because we are trying to flush ketones. But her tests came back as "not dehydrated" . I can't tell if it's sagging skin or fluids.... Just feels loose and squishy (?)

I was thinking of giving 100cc a day after these absorb, until the ketones read negative, like I did last time... What do you think?
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

How long should I keep giving the odansetron every 8 hours? The Dr who treated her yesterday doesn't work today, so I can't ask him....
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

Hi - I can't help with the questions, but did want to day that I am glad things are improving for garland - well done! be better little one!
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

nt sure on the ondansetron...Rocket gets his every 12 hrs and has been getting his for now 3 yrs but due to his CRF...

i know nothing of ketones....hope others can chime in

if you feel the armpit...does it feel full or saggy?
can you stick your finger in her mouth and feel if she has tacky saliva (sticky) or normal? if you stick your index finger and get saliva from her and do the pinch form with your thumb....does it feel sticky or runny?

if sticky then she is dehydrated
if not sticky then she is hydrated....

does that make sense.....??
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

i took this from this link

http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms.htm

"Dehydration

As mentioned above, the ability to produce concentrated urine gradually deteriorates in a CRF cat as the kidneys fail. Although the cat will drink more in an attempt to compensate for the increased urination, eventually it becomes impossible to maintain a balance, and dehydration occurs.

Many people believe that dehydration means the loss of water from the body. However, it actually means the loss of both fluids and electrolytes - salts which the body needs in order to function properly.

It is not possible to diagnose clinical dehydration until the cat is already at least 5% dehydrated, so by the time you see signs, you already have a definite problem. Colorado State University gives information on the likely degree of dehydration based on physical signs (scroll down to section 7).

7. How do you determine the degree of dehydration in an animal?

Clinical assessment of dehydration is best accomplished by serial body weight monitoring. Experience has shown that the physical examination findings often underestimate the degree of dehydration. During the acute phase of volume depletion, these classical physical examination findings are all that are available. The chart below is offered as a general guideline and assumes more serious hypovolemia is present.

TABLE 1. Estimating the percentage dehydration based upon physical examination findings.

Estimated Percentage Dehydration
Physical Examination Findings

<5
History of fluid loss but no findings on physical examination
5
Dry oral mucous membranes but no panting or pathological tachycardia
7
Mild to moderate decreased skin turgor, dry oral mucous membranes, slight tachycardia, and normal pulse pressure.
10
Moderate to marked degree of decreased skin turgor, dry oral mucous membranes, tachycardia, and decreased pulse pressure.
12
Marked loss of skin turgor, dry oral mucous membranes, and significant signs of shock.


Newly sunken eyes may indicate dehydration, as may vomiting. Cracked paw pads are also occasionally seen, and litter may stick to the cat's paws. Sometimes a cat with dehydration hangs his/her head over the waterbowl, though more commonly that is a sign of stomach acid. The cat may also grind his/her teeth, or lip his/her lips.

You should regularly check your cat's hydration levels: the most common method is to pinch the skin, usually at the scruff of the neck - the skin should fall back into place immediately. Most CRF cats experience some degree of dehydration so the skin may not fall back as quickly as in a healthy cat, but if it takes a few seconds you should look into improving your cat's hydration. Another way to check is to feel your cat's gums: they should feel slick. If they feel sticky, your cat is probably dehydrated. Pet Education has some information about how to use these two assessment methods. Some people weigh their cats daily, finding this a good guide to their cat's degree of hydration.

If you've ever been dehydrated, you know how awful it feels - like a bad hangover, with a dreadful headache and stomach ache. Dehydrated cats often stop eating, which then makes them even more dehydrated because they are not obtaining any fluid from their food. To make matters worse, cats who do not eat are at risk of developing a potentially life-threatening condition known as hepatic lipidosis; Mar Vista Vet has more information about this. Therefore, it is important to detect and treat dehydration as quickly as possible. Treatment "
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

I felt under her arms, it felt... Saggy? I guess. Like saggy squishy skin . I felt her gums and saliva, both felt wet and slick. Not sticky at all. So that means shes okay with fluids ? Right? I love learning about all this. Thank you so much for the link and inserts. :smile:
 
Re: 12/10 Garland AMPS 201 +6 208 PMPS 202 - one day at a ti

Next time before her subq fluids if it were me I'd weigh her to gauge where she is at like previously mentioned
If you don't have a baby scale you can weigh yourself then with kitty to see her weight

Hope she is feeling ok
 
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