12/1 Oliver AMPS 524 3+409 6+354 9+ 310 PMPS 351

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kellykramer

kellykramer

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? UGH Going down but very slowly. Not normal for him? Is this normal for the insulin?

Does this mean that we have hit the Depot? Or insulin needs to upped? Or lowered? I am clueless on this one?
 
Re: 12/1 Oliver AMPS 524 3+ 409 +6 354

Hi Kelly! I don't have any advice, but I wanted to bump you up on the list for visibility. I hope you get some good answers to your questions soon. Come on down and stay that way, lil Oliver!
 
Re: 12/1 Oliver AMPS 524 3+ 409 +6 354

I think it's totally possible Oliver is bouncing Kelly

Look at yesterday's AM cycle...Oliver went from 381 to 234 in just 2 hours...then from 234 to 149 at +4. That's a drop of 147 points in 2 hours and 232 points in 4 hours. Dropping fast like that can trigger a bounce just like going low can.

This would have been a really good time to get a +6 and probably even more tests in. Any time you see a drop like that at +2 or +3, that's an "early warning system" that Oliver may drop even lower as the cycle goes on.

Bounces take up to 72 hours to clear, so if bouncing is a possibility (which I think is definitely what's going on here) all you can do is hang on and let it pass. As you can see, he is slowly coming back down, but he may go up/down some over the next several cycles until the bounce clears

Kelly, try to remember to post the link to your previous condo each time you post.

Oliver 11/29
 
Re: 12/1 Oliver AMPS 524 3+ 409 +6 354

What this looks like to me is that Oliver decided to bounce off of the 149 on 11/30. That drop into the blues was a 240+ point drop that has triggered a bounce. It's looking like numbers are coming down this cycle. I would not increase while the bounce is breaking. How about posting closer to your PMPS? I suspect that Oliver does need a dose increase but I wouldn't increase until you know where the numbers eventually level out at.
 
Re: 12/1 Oliver AMPS 524 3+ 409 +6 354

Ok will get more #'s in before PMPS.... and a t Bedtime.
Thanks guys for the info. I felt as if an increase may be but will wait till he evens out and I will talk to vet on Mon or Tuesday.
 
Re: 12/1 Oliver AMPS 524 3+ 409 +6 354 9+ 310

Kelly, we all understand you wanting to discuss it with your vet, but please don't make any changes based on their reply without asking about it first. Vets just can't keep up with the latest treatments for every type of animal they treat, and most MIGHT have had a couple of diabetic cats over the years. (there's no such thing as a feline diabetes specialist)

We find most vets have no idea what they're doing and don't understand bouncing, or depot insulins and how they work, correct dosing, etc.

In just the time I've been here, I can almost say for 100% that there are cats alive today because of the people here (My own being one of them)...Our vets told us to start at crazy high doses instead of starting low and going up slowly. It's not that they're trying to hurt our kitties, they just don't have the time to really keep up to date.

The people here have tens of thousands of hours of real life experience on treating diabetes and the diseases that come with it. It's all we do. No, we're not vets, but we'll be here for you 24/7 to help advise you...and our number one concern is always going to be keeping Oliver safe

Just something to think about..and yes...the more tests you can get in, the clearer the picture will be on how well he's actually doing on this dose. There's just no such thing as too much data.
 
Chris- How do I post my last condo?
I also am understanding your position on Vets. I actually have Grave's Disease and went to Endo's around here and they absolutely do not really understand grave's, joined a forum and this is how I got better.
So I am very much listening and absorbing all info on here and shared. I have just been super busy with the Holidays but am trying to get info shared and registered and done as much as possible. Oliver is so wonderful he means the world to me. Off to Feed and shoot. Will report soon!!!
Putting up tree and ending this Holiday Vacation with a bang.
SO please keep filling me in and giving me advise I am appreciating it so much!!!!
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Each day, when you come to post that day's condo, just find your last post, and copy/paste it into the body of the new condo. It doesn't need to be anything fancy.

If you DO want to make it fancy, go to viewtopic.php?f=6&t=486

It's kind of hard to explain without all the pictures
 
You can't just copy and paste a link. You need to encase the location in the URL code. In order to link your previous condo:
  • Go to your last condo and copy the http line from the top of your browser.
  • Open a new condo and in the text box, click on the URL button that's above the text box. This will insert the following code: .
  • In between the two sets of brackets, paste the location of your previous condo: http info goes here.
  • To make it fancy: whatever you want to call the link.
 
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