11/3 Ming PMPS = 337, +2 = 292

Crista & Ming

Crista & Ming

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http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/11-2-ming-pmps-490-2-454.205831/

Of course I wake up late. Gave Ming his insulin 15 minutes late again. :banghead:

AMPS = 409. Appetite was good. I gave him LC FF chunky chicken just in case he decides not to come down but I have a feeling he will.

And his blood is definitely pinker. I wonder if it's because of the HC food two cycles ago... I hope it's not a sign that panc is coming up again. I'll be asking my vet what to do. I gave him bupe last night at 5 am just in case he felt painful and some LC raw food. He ate well this morning though.

Negative ketones last night at +8 and will test when he goes again this morning of course!
 
Glad to hear ketones remain negative and appetite is good.

I think shifting to LC at this point and reserving MC and HC for guiding is appropriate. You are around for a few days to monitor, gather data and evaluate.
 
15 minutes isn't to big a deal. LC is good. He's coming around. What do they say around here, it's a marathon not a sprint. You are both still learning. Be easy on yourself.
 
Glad to hear that he is feeling better.

Crista & Ming said:
And his blood is definitely pinker
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That was an interesting comment. Bubba was previously on Pro Zinc and when he was, if his blood was pink and not red, I would know he was going to be in a low number. I don't notice that anymore with Lantus.

Yeah for negative ketones!
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
That was an interesting comment. Bubba was previously on Pro Zinc and when he was, if his blood was pink and not red, I would know he was going to be in a low number. I don't notice that anymore with Lantus
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Interesting!

He’s had pink creamy blood twice before and his blood tests would come back high in lipase. First vet suspected it was diet and then he shortly had a panc episode. Current vet thinks it’s probably because of panc that there’s high lipase (he had creamy pink blood while having panc). But then again, Ming had an HC fest two days ago so... it’s hard to say.
 
LizzieInTexas said:
Does Canada do DST?
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Yes we do (unfortunately haha). But it actually is working in my favour this year! I actually want to shoot an hour early and now I get to without doing any adjustments. :smuggrin:

He’s at 416 at +2. Here’s hoping he goes down from here. He’s not too energetic this AM but I’m not surprised if it’s becuase he’s tired from being high. And his pink blood is concerning to me. I just emailed my vet who is in today so I should get some answers on what to do. But I can’t think of anything she’ll want me to do besides do a blood test or up his pred dose.
 
I’ll be out of the house. Gonna make a PetSmart trip and have lunch. Hope Ming’s BGs go down slowly while I’m gone for a few hours :)
 
+7 = 320

Vet called back. She wants me to do another curve tomorrow and also bring him in for panc blood test. I am not opposed lol so Ming will be getting a blood test on Tuesday night.

Better safe than sorrryyyy
 
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+2 = 292

We’re gettin’ somewhereeeeee. I’ll be attempting to do hourly BG checks as per vet’s instructions. Might not be able to and just completely fall asleep.

My mom said I lost weight and I look like poopoo.

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But on a positive note: I felt less anxious about Ming today. I went out and ran errands. Felt ok. Went to dinner with friends. But felt like rushing back so I don’t miss Ming’s PM dose time. But at least I got myself OUT OF THE HOUSE.
 
I am a bit surprised at the hourly test instructions. My vet said hourly once I got quite a bit lower, like 100. However, it will be interesting to see the data.

Glad you got out today. Important to take care of you too.
 
Its good you changed gears for a wile today the timing worked out perfectly.
Crista & Ming said:
Might not be able to and just completely fall asleep.
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Many folks here (myself included) learned to 'sleep test'. I would set an alarm on my phone and sleep with it on my chest. Another strategy some folks use is to drink some water - enough to ensure you will wake at some point.

You may have the need to guide the cycle with food. Since you plan to test frequently tonight, if you see that downward momentum is building that's the time to intervene. A light touch is generally best Easy does it Consider where in the cycle Ming is in deciding if your going to use LC, MC or HC. Avoid dry.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
I am a bit surprised at the hourly test instructions. My vet said hourly once I got quite a bit lower, like 100. However, it will be interesting to see the data.
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I was surprised too, especially because they told me to test less when I brought Ming home. But I think since what happened the day I got home (the 18 hour cycle and then hitting a 50 and proving the different doses of pred don't really affect his BG), my vet is curious what's going on. NN said what we did in hospital was useless and maybe vet thinks similarly.

I THINK vet has a better understanding of Lantus than IM. Not on par with the experts here but at least she's respecting what I'm doing and genuinely curious.

Sandy and Black Kitty said:
Many folks here (myself included) learned to 'sleep test'. I would set an alarm on my phone and sleep with it on my chest. Another strategy some folks use is to drink some water - enough to ensure you will wake at some point.
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Ohh!! The phone on chest is a GREAT idea. I've set up alarms before and just completely MISS them. Like what I did this morning.

Sandy and Black Kitty said:
You may have the need to guide the cycle with food. Since you plan to test frequently tonight, if you see that downward momentum is building that's the time to intervene. A light touch is generally best Easy does it Consider where in the cycle Ming is in deciding if your going to use LC, MC or HC. Avoid dry.
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Got it!

I feel good about this cycle so far. I'm only concerned about tomorrow's cycle. Either he'll bounce or drop and drop. But I hope having held 5 units for this long is helping Ming's body get used to it.
 
Tonight is consecutive cycle 5 of 5u :)

eta-do feed him any regularly scheduled meals if he normally eats at a certain time on the overnights and consider their timing and content if you find steering is needed.
 
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I do wonder, however, if he has a little bit of pancreatitis right now. And what that means for the numbers.

Let’s say he does: would we think differently about his doses? Would we react to his BGs or assume his BGs aren’t “true” because of infection and play damage control or wait for the infection to be cleared instead of meddling with the doses?
 
Crista & Ming said:
I do wonder, however, if he has a little bit of pancreatitis right now. And what that means for the numbers.

Let’s say he does: would we think differently about his doses? Would we react to his BGs or assume his BGs aren’t “true” because of infection and play damage control or wait for the infection to be cleared instead of meddling with the doses?
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I don't personally have experience with p-titis. I do know the pain alone can make numbers rise.

I believe the best approach from a BG standpoint is to address the pain with some bupe as needed. Additionally you may want to get a bottle of R (humulin R) to keep on hand for any damage control during flare ups. We can teach you how to safely use it in conjunction with Lantus. It is fast acting, generally in and out in 4 hours, which makes it ideal for situations that are temporary. Think of using R as placing a ceiling or cap over a cycle, to limit the potential high BGs a p-tits flare could cause.
 
Hi Crista and Ming!
I didn't read your thread fully but saw the recent posts about pancreatitis while looking for something. Since it's not necessarily an "infection", but actually inflammation of the pancreas, it really comes down to pain management and nausea management so sugar baby can still get their insulin shots. I was using a different insulin when my boy had a mild case but it's always good to err on the side of caution and trust your parent instincts ;). Sometimes bupe can raise their BG too. With Lantus, I wouldn't recommended reacting to each number since it's a depot insulin. You probably could have done minor adjustments with PZI (We were on Prozinc, from the same family as PZI). Hopefully some others will chime in and I hope your baby feels better soon, if it is pancreatitis :cat:.
 
Yong said:
Hi Crista and Ming!
I didn't read your thread fully but saw the recent posts about pancreatitis while looking for something. Since it's not necessarily an "infection", but actually inflammation of the pancreas, it really comes down to pain management and nausea management so sugar baby can still get their insulin shots. I was using a different insulin when my boy had a mild case but it's always good to err on the side of caution and trust your parent instincts ;). Sometimes bupe can raise their BG too. With Lantus, I wouldn't recommended reacting to each number since it's a depot insulin. You probably could have done minor adjustments with PZI (We were on Prozinc, from the same family as PZI). Hopefully some others will chime in and I hope your baby feels better soon, if it is pancreatitis :cat:.
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Hey Yong :cool:
 
Sandy and Black Kitty said:
I don't personally have experience with p-titis. I do know the pain alone can make numbers rise.

I believe the best approach from a BG standpoint is to address the pain with some bupe as needed. Additionally you may want to get a bottle of R (humulin R) to keep on hand for any damage control during flare ups. We can teach you how to safely use it in conjunction with Lantus. It is fast acting, generally in and out in 4 hours, which makes it ideal for situations that are temporary. Think of using R as placing a ceiling or cap over a cycle, to limit the potential high BGs a p-tits flare could cause.
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Okay! Another thing I’m putting on my list of “to get” for Ming. :)

I’ve been giving him bupe the entire day (every 8 hours or so) just in case and will probably continue to give it to him until we do the blood test on Tuesday or if I see he’s acting lethargic or doesn’t have an appetite, I’ll stop.

ETA: sorry, lethargic as in acting too stoned.

Yong said:
Hi Crista and Ming!
I didn't read your thread fully but saw the recent posts about pancreatitis while looking for something. Since it's not necessarily an "infection", but actually inflammation of the pancreas, it really comes down to pain management and nausea management so sugar baby can still get their insulin shots. I was using a different insulin when my boy had a mild case but it's always good to err on the side of caution and trust your parent instincts ;). Sometimes bupe can raise their BG too. With Lantus, I wouldn't recommended reacting to each number since it's a depot insulin. You probably could have done minor adjustments with PZI (We were on Prozinc, from the same family as PZI). Hopefully some others will chime in and I hope your baby feels better soon, if it is pancreatitis :cat:.
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Thanks for dropping by with some tips, Yong! :)
 
If your concerned about bupre making him to lethargic, give a little less or try every 12 hrs faithfully. If p'titis is ongoing issue you might want to continue pain management for quite some time. My Smokey needed to remain on it for life but at half the dose recommended which worked very well for him.
 
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