11/29 Mikey AMPS 93/199 PMPS 272 +2/230 +6/169 +10/203

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AMPS first test was 93 in left ear. He was very difficult this morning because he was so hungry and my hand hit his ear so when I got the BG of 93 I wasn't confident that was accurate so I waited a minute and retested the right ear and got BG 199. I gave him 1.5u w/ food and now I realize I probably should not have shot.

What is my next step?
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 AND SHOT 1.5u

Good morning!

Ok, first, take a couple of deep breaths. And today, probably plan on a +1 and +2 for now. I think the 199 was the correct reading based on the +11 you got. Not conclusively rising, or falling given how close the numbers are to each other.
I think I may have said "stall for a few minutes and test again to make sure he's rising", but now I'd say to keep an eye on what he does for the next couple of hours.
He ate good?

Carl
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 AND SHOT 1.5u

My guess is that your 93 is an "off" reading. When something like this has happened to me, when I test, get a number that doesn't seem right and re-test and there's a substantial difference, I'll test a 3rd time. The +11 and AMPS are very close so I'm thinking that your 93 is the outlier. Like Carl suggested, get a +1 and see where things stand. I'm sure it's going to be fine. Just post your next test so if this is, in fact a low cycle, there will be people keeping their eyes on Mikey's condo. I'm at work and may not be able to check back but there are others around.
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 AND SHOT 1.5u

You know I get so nervous to be "late" at giving him the shot. I do need to take a deep breath and remember to post. I was planning on the +1 and +2.

He was very hungry. I would have given 1/2 can but gave him less than that incase his BG goes down and I need to get him to eat HC food. (At least I remember that from the other day)
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 AND SHOT 1.5u

You know I get so nervous to be "late" at giving him the shot. I do need to take a deep breath and remember to post. I was planning on the +1 and +2.
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You may not believe it yourself, but that "says" you've caught on to a lot of this dancing stuff already!

You know how "this place" is.... there will be plenty of eyes on you and Mikey all day, Jenn. Lots of people have your back!
:-D
Carl
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 AND SHOT 1.5u

Great job Jennifer!!!! And Mikey is back in blue!!!! Let's see some green today, Mikey!!
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 SHOT 1.5u +1.5/139

The 93 AMPS may have been accurate? His BG at +1.5 was 139 (Work got in the way so I was late on getting the +1) and that was after he ate. I will test again in another hour or sooner?
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 SHOT 1.5u +1.5/139

Hmmm....interesting but it could be the 199 was accurate if he is clearing a bounce. When clearing a bounce, they often continue to drop instead of going up at +1/+2. So the 199/139 can be accurate.

Recheck at +2.

If Mikey starts to get low and you need help, and there is no one on the board check out the "Handling Low Numbers" in my signature block and remember that if he gets in the 50s, just try to bump him up a bit with some LC first and if that doesn't work, give him some HC gravy. Retest every 30 minutes.

We call that lather, rinse, repeat but I've found once they start back up, you want to switch off the HC and move them back to some LC. But keep checking him until he's up enough that he won't turn back around.
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 SHOT 1.5u +1.5/139

will do Marje. I will get that "how to treat low numbers" and add to my "binder".

i'll get the +2
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey AMPS 93/199 +1.5/139 +2.5/134 +6/116 +9/224

yes, i was thinking they were very nice numbers too :-D
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 SHOT 1.5u +1.5/139

What a nice surf Mikey had going today! :-D

I would encourage you to print out and familiarize yourself with both the "Handling Low Numbers" and "Dealing with Low Preshots" posts that are linked in Marje's signature....they are the same ones I suggested that you print out the other day....the last two sections in the Shooting & Handling Low Numbers sticky.

Marjorie and Gracie said:
If Mikey starts to get low and you need help, and there is no one on the board check out the "Handling Low Numbers" in my signature block and remember that if he gets in the 50s, just try to bump him up a bit with some LC first and if that doesn't work, give him some HC gravy. Retest every 30 minutes.

We call that lather, rinse, repeat but I've found once they start back up, you want to switch off the HC and move them back to some LC. But keep checking him until he's up enough that he won't turn back around.
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One thing I would correct that Marje said above....numbers in the 50s are normal numbers, you do NOT need to bump his numbers up until he falls below 50. Low numbers are numbers under 50....that is when you want to bump him up.

From the Shooting & Handling Low Numbers sticky....

If your cat is testing in low numbers and you are not getting a quick response to your post, there are several things you need to do. (Low numbers are under 50mg/dL or 2.8 mmol/L.)


Depending on how carbohydrate sensitive your cat is, feed approximately a teaspoon or less of food with high carb (HC) gravy or HC food only. (If you have a cat with GI issues, using syrup plus LC food is an alternative.)
Test again in 15 – 20 min. Depending on the numbers, give more HC food.
Repeat the above steps every 15 – 20 min. until your cat tests in the 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L) or above range for 2 consecutive tests. Continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range.
Test in 30 - 40 min. and repeat the test and feed process until there are 2 consecutive tests where numbers are stable or rising.
Test in an hour and follow the same steps.
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Just to clarify for you...when Mikey was at 53 the other day, and I suggested giving a bit of LC food, I was not trying to bump his numbers up....I was hoping to get him up on his surfboard (stay stable where he was)....as suggested in the sticky I quoted above.
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey AMPS 93/199 +1.5/139 +2.5/134 +6/116 +9/224

I did print out both of those. I have a stack of stickies and other info. that I have printed. I just have to put it into a binder. I have not read through them completely but I have skimmed through. I did not see anything that said "if" the low number does not start to go up after you give HC food? Is that a possibility? If so then what?
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey AMPS 93/199 +1.5/139 +2.5/134 +6/116 +9/224

If the numbers stay low after you give HC gravy, you might want to add a bit of karo syrup (or honey, maple syrup, etc). I generally only suggest karo if kitty 1) is in the 30s or below, or 2) drops from the 40s into the 30s even with gravy, or 3) is in the low 40s and not rising from the gravy.

It does also depend on where the low numbers are in the cycle....if the low numbers are early in the cycle, you might want to intervene more aggressively, because the insulin's action is stronger then.

BTW, just use the gravy from the HC food to bump numbers up quickly...it works faster than HC food + gravy.
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey +11/225 AMPS 93/199 SHOT 1.5u +1.5/139

Marjorie and Gracie said:
If Mikey starts to get low and you need help, and there is no one on the board check out the "Handling Low Numbers" in my signature block and remember that if he gets in the 50s, just try to bump him up a bit with some LC first and if that doesn't work, give him some HC gravy. Retest every 30 minutes.

We call that lather, rinse, repeat but I've found once they start back up, you want to switch off the HC and move them back to some LC. But keep checking him until he's up enough that he won't turn back around.
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Laurie and Mr Tinkles said:
One thing I would correct that Marje said above....numbers in the 50s are normal numbers, you do NOT need to bump his numbers up until he falls below 50. Low numbers are numbers under 50....that is when you want to bump him up.
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The only reason I suggested that was if you were alone and did not have help and were worried. Normally, I wouldn't worry about the 50s either and wouldn't bump him up out of them. But if you didn't have help and you were concerned about letting him get into the 40s....you could give him a little LC.
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey AMPS 93/199 +11/279 PMPS 272 +2/230

The problem with bumping him up prematurely is that you might prevent him from earning a reduction. Too much manipulation of the numbers can lead to a cat being over dose.

The stickies are there for a reason, to help guide people.....they've worked very well up to this point, I don't see any reason to change them. It's confusing when you tell Jennifer to take a look at the sticky, but then post conflicting info to what's in the sticky!

It's not just you, Marje, and I don't mean to single you out....when Jennifer had the 53 the other day, I saw suggestions to give HC and karo....with plenty of help available and a number in the normal range! I'm just trying to get people to read the stickies and use the info there!
 
Re: 11/29 Mikey AMPS 93/199 +11/279 PMPS 272 +2/230 +6/169

BG at +6 is 169 at 4:45 am. Mikey seemed very stressed tonight. Bedtime (12am) he was really hissing and growling at the other cats, didn't want to stay in "his" room but didn't want to come out either. He hasn't been like this for days. He's a talker/cryer too. He is so hungry. I gave him 1/4 cup at +6.
 
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