11/28 Weezer AMPS 332, +4.5 338, +8 329, dosing?

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Linda for Weezer

Linda for Weezer

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All is well in Weezer World.

Yesterday’s Condo

Recap of yesterday
AMPS 335
+3 313
+7 242
+8.5 307
PMPS 377
+2 332
+5.25 342
+9 301

We were very happy to see that +7 yesterday. That is her lowest number as measured on the Relion. The PMPS is a bit of a mystery. Could that be a touch of bounce from the 242? Nice overnight recovery with an all but yellow +9.

Wishing a kitty day for all, plenty of purrs, play, sunny spots and lots of love.
 
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Hi Linda, that was a nice blue there at the +7! Wow I don't know about the bounce question. I'd be interested in what the experts say, as I sometimes don't understand the bounces. Is this morning with the new dose? Have a nice Monday.
 
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Mornig Linda and Weezer. I sure hope you see more of that pretty yellow today!!
 
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come on back to the pretty blues Weezer, they look so good on you and I know you feel good in it to.
Have a wonderful day
 
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Weezer, you did great yesterday! How 'bout a little more of that action today? Have a good one.
Liz
 
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Hi guys .. no answer from me on the bouncing question .. just wanted to say that I hope weezer shows off some nice numbers for you later on! have a great day!
 
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Ok, Weezer.. Enough already, ok? Don't MAKE me send my little Blackie over to you to teach you the good #s.... Then again, that may not be a bad idea. :lol:

Wishing for Weezer to come down in #s, and not keep rising. Got it, Weezer? You must come down in #s. That's the ONLY way to do it. :YMHUG: Hang in there, Linda. Surely, she just has to break through.
 
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I am so hoping for Weezer to come back down soon. Looking at her SS, I know how you must feel. We just have to keep moving forward and those numbers will change as you reach the right dose for her. That glimpse of blue is encouraging.
 
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Oh Weezer! Come on down to yellow. It would make your mama bean very happy! Have a wonderful day!
 
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I'm not an expert by any means. Here is what I think MAY be happening here. Weezer MAY be having a bouncing reaction from the increase in insulin and the food change all at the same time. This may make her go wonky like she's doing now, and her body doesn't know what to do at this time. You're doing a food transition, and on top of that, you're increasing her doses, too. Both are needed, of course. I wonder what she'll do if you decide to finish the food transition first, and then go back to increasing the insulin after a period of time...? This may allow her to adjust to her new food, and just maybe her #s may flatten out, or go lower. It may help her body to adjust to first one thing, and then another, instead of both at once.

Just a thought. Perhaps some cats can't handle 2 things at once, whereas others can. Just like people. It's worth a try, isn't it?
 
I would be very interested to hear opinions on Angela's observation on dosing/food transition. I have been making the food swap slowly. The mix of raw to canned is now about 3/4 raw to 1/4 canned. I'm not sure Weezer is ready to go for all raw, but we can try it when the bag I'm using now is done, a couple of days.
 
Looks like you are on the 2nd cycle at 6.5u.
I'm not seeing your question on dosing. . .

Regarding her diet, I don't have personal experience with raw however IMHO I think that LC is LC, whether canned or raw. I don't think it makes a difference BG wise.
 
I tend to agree with Sandy...LC is LC. Your kitty may like one better than the other, but it shouldn't affect the BGs too much. Of course, you know just about exactly how many carbs are in the raw whereas, who the heck knows for sure what the carb count is in canned. They change their formulas without any warning so who knows what's in that can on any given day. This is one of those "don't drive yourself crazy" subjects. As long as you know it's LC, knowing the precise number isn't necessary. You may do what I did, though. Make a record of what flavor you feed at every meal and see what happens to Weezer's numbers with each flavor. Because there are other factors involved in influencing cat's BGs, you would have to do this for some time to see if there's any pattern.
 
I'm not adding any carbs :lol:

Seriously, the raw is no carb and the canned I'm mixing in is Friskies pate, low carb. That would make the combo extra low carb.
 
Raw food is not 0 carbs. If you look on any of the food charts or do the calculations with home made, there are still some carbs. On the chart I attached, see pgs. 5 - 6. Raw has about 4 carbs. Homemade has 2 - 3.

Switching food may cause a day or two of slightly elevated numbers. Given that this transition has been slow, I would not expect that it's causing any change in numbers.

I also don't think there's all that much bouncing going on. Overall, these numbers are pretty flat. I do want to make a suggestion, though. Once we see a cat that's getting over 6.0u, it's often prudent to get bloodwork done to determine whether the cat has a high dose condition. The lab at Michigan State University can run the tests -- IGF-1 to determine if acromegaly or IAA to assess for insulin resistance/insulin autoantibodies. The testing itself is not expensive. The biggest cost is for shipping.

The link to the lab at Michigan State is broken in the info link to the HD forum that I posted. The info is here for the MSU lab. Just make sure your vet follows all of the instructions for shipping the sample -- it goes directly to the lab. They run the tests on Fridays so it needs to get there in time for the samples to be run. Julie/Punkin can probably give you more information.
 
I also had decided that 6u with little regulation would be the point where additional tests would be needed. (see Rand article on Managing the Problem Cat).

I also read the links provided by Julie and Punkin concerning acromegaly and they were very helpful as was reading about Sandy and Black kitty. I don't know how in the world they have managed to handle their 'problem' kitties --the time and effort they have spent to learn all they have is truly admirable. To think that Black Kitty is off the juice after such HUGE doses of insulin is a testament to Sandy. And I hope that Julie's Punkin after all she has done continues requiring less and less insulin.


The following sites were helpful to me as they discuss all the possible issues and tests required. Thanks to anyone who may have steered me to them.

http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/vetmed/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=660513&sk=&date=&pageID=3

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&C=31&A=1605&SourceID=

This was the specific link for the test at MSU for IAA. (mentions sending sample with ice pack, etcl)

http://www.animalhealth.msu.edu/Bin/Catalog.exe?Action=Test&Id=1494

http://www.felineoutreach.org/Education/Acromegaly.html

Hoping Weezer is free of any serious complications and is only waiting on that one little dose increase to see better numbers. Let's hope the new dose brings some nice blues from the always high ReliOn. (by the way 90% of all acro cats are males and Weezer is a GIRL!!! :smile: )

Elaine and Pinky
 
Hi Linda:

I don't know much about the insulin resistant kitties but I do think the others have a great idea and it's worthwhile to check it out. I think Lisa wondered about DL for a long time and then found out that he was insulin resistant.

Thinking of you and Weezer!
 
Linda, i'd be glad to talk with you about all of this. by the time i got punkin tested i had read symptoms and as much as i didn't want it, i wasn't surprised when the test came back positive. knowing is better than not knowing, because there are different tactics that you take if you have a high dose need depending on what the cause is. :YMHUG:
 
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