11/28 Gus AMPS 272, +10 185, PMPS 166, +1 169, +2.75 196, +5 265

Well.. did a +10 and he got a blue 185.

He was having a few pink days which was sorta out of the normal - his curve on the 26th threw me right off and he had a pink at +2 last night. We sometimes get a pink here and there but he was pretty much in the yellows (couple of blues) the last two weeks.

Maybe he was not feeling well the last two days.. didn't show me any signs that something was up but I know they can be good at hiding things though

What does this mean for TR? Hold the dose for 4-5 days? Plan was to do 3 days but I think the protocol tell me to we need to hold now?

If we’re holding the dose does that mean hold dose starting today or from when we started the new dose?
 
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I also want to add that I’ve just ordered some Dasuquin to help with his hips. I should have started him on this sooner.

Something I should mention…

He had a double FHO (femoral head ostectomy) 6years ago. I’m not sure if he’s getting some inflammation or joint pains that could be a factor in his BGs.

I’m in Canada and winter is just around the corner… I know weather certainly has an affect on my bones and joints … him too probably.

@tiffmaxee
@Bandit's Mom

just tagging to give you a little more info on Gus that I neglected to mention
 
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Summer and Susie (GA) said:
Nice blue today, Kim. Dasuquin helped my dog with arthritis. Hope it helps with Gus. Being from Florida I just cannot imagine the Canadian winters.
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Happy to hear it helped! I order two bottles :) so I’m hoping it will also work on Gus and not mess with his BGs much. I did some forum searching and consensus is most don’t see a rise but rather the opposite (likely from a little pain relief).

The winters can be rough.. but when it’s all you know, it’s not so bad when you bundle up! I find the transition from fall to winter is always the worst since your body is trying acclimatize. That said, I could very much do without winter lol but funny enough, I’d be lost without it.
 
Gus the Furminator said:
I went ahead with it. Pretty sure I should have, I will be checking at +2 unless I should check a +1…
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Good for you!! Next time though, you might want to stall, DON'T feed and test again in 20-30 minutes.

Since he was still falling at PMPS, that would have told you if he was continuing to drop or starting to go back up.

I'd plan on getting a +1 and a +2 to start with and go from there.
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
Good for you!! Next time though, you might want to stall, DON'T feed and test again in 20-30 minutes.

Since he was still falling at PMPS, that would have told you if he was continuing to drop or starting to go back up.

I'd plan on getting a +1 and a +2 to start with and go from there.
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Thanks! Well noted for next time. Shucks… I did ‘stall’ with no food, waiting on some help. I should have checked.. maybe since he just ate 5mins ago I can try?
 
Summer and Susie (GA) said:
Nice blue today, Kim. Dasuquin helped my dog with arthritis. Hope it helps with Gus. Being from Florida I just cannot imagine the Canadian winters.
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Summer, perhaps you can help me… I have some family that goes down to Daytona for the winter months and my cousin is visiting for 2 weeks over xmas. I want to give them some money to pick me up a few boxes of freestyle lite strips. They are $75/100 CAD here and I’ve heard between $17-21/50 in the US though that wasn’t a Florida price. Any chance you can do a google search on that area for me? And where I can send them (Walgreens or CVS?) I keep getting Canadian converted prices when I Google. Hope it’s not too much of a bother.
 
I still think stalling was a good idea, especially since you're just starting TR. While the PMPS was within meter variance, it was still lower than the +10 so there's nothing wrong with being extra cautious until you get some experience shooting lower numbers under your belt.

Both Elise's answer and mine could be considered correct. Members can offer differing opinions at times but our main job here is to teach you how to make these decisions on your own eventually so getting different opinions makes you think. You are the one holding the syringe, so in the end, it's always your decision what to do and we'll back you up as best we can!
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
I still think stalling was a good idea, especially since you're just starting TR. While the PMPS was within meter variance, it was still lower than the +10 so there's nothing wrong with being extra cautious until you get some experience shooting lower numbers under your belt.

Both Elise's answer and mine could be considered correct. Members can offer differing opinions at times but our main job here is to teach you how to make these decisions on your own eventually so getting different opinions makes you think. You are the one holding the syringe, so in the end, it's always your decision what to do and we'll back you up as best we can!
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I appreciate all the tips and tidbits to get to the point of making those decisions on my own. Thanks a bunch
 
I don’t think we’ll get to this but just so I’m prepared.. (I’m thinking ahead to the mid of the night and for future)

If his numbers start to decrease should i then give him some mc/hc food/gravy to bring him up a bit. And when should I start to do this if his levels are around or under 50?

@Chris & China (GA)
@tiffmaxee
 
Gus the Furminator said:
If his numbers start to decrease should i then give him some mc/hc food/gravy to bring him up a bit. And when should I start to do this if his levels are around or under 50?
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No, just because his numbers come down doesn't mean you should prop them up...that kind of defeats the purpose....LOL BUT, if he drops a LOT from one test to another, then we might suggest trying a teaspoon of regular low carb or possibly MC or HC...it depends on how much he dropped and how quickly.

We usually save the HC for when he actually drops below 50....that also means he "earns" a reduction of .25
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
No, just because his numbers come down doesn't mean you should prop them up...that kind of defeats the purpose....LOL BUT, if he drops a LOT from one test to another, then we might suggest trying a teaspoon of regular low carb or possibly MC or HC...it depends on how much he dropped and how quickly.

We usually save the HC for when he actually drops below 50....that also means he "earns" a reduction of .25
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Okee dokee, thanks for clarifying. That’s very true… I don’t want to bring him up when he’s in a good range. I’m testing in 30mins will post his +3 and bug ya if it’s concerning! Ty again!
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
good deal!! Just an FYI....when you enter information on the World side, if there's anything other than just a number in the cell, it doesn't do the conversion on the US tab so it's helpful if you'll switch over to the US tab and convert it for us. You'd just put 196 @ 2.75 but then you'd have to color code it yourself.
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That actually really bugs me when I flip over to the US tab. I have to type in the adjusted hours after I grab the US number.

so I’ve tried to fix it before but i get an equation (It looks like the coding to convert from world) in the text bar at the top. When I insert a US number into a cell, it doesn’t show up on the world sheet..

Check row 138, column J… I added 270 for a test but it doesn’t show up on my world sheet

Any ideas?
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
good deal!! Just an FYI....when you enter information on the World side, if there's anything other than just a number in the cell, it doesn't do the conversion on the US tab so it's helpful if you'll switch over to the US tab and convert it for us. You'd just put 196 @ 2.75 but then you'd have to color code it yourself.
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Nvm! I see now! I can still adjust the ‘error’ numbers on the US! Will do this for sure!

All fixed now!
 
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Gus the Furminator said:
Nvm
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I had to google this! :-)

Looks like he is heading up tonight.

Btw, you have shot similar levels before. Just for future reference, the size of dose does not make a difference in a decision about shooting. A cat needs however much insulin he needs. The size of dose doesn't impact how the cycle will play out, if it's a good dose for that cat. Like Chris pointed out, sometimes when stalling, he could actually drop lower - especially on a day like today where he was nadiring at the end of the cycle.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
I had to google this! :)

Looks like he is heading up tonight.

Btw, you have shot similar levels before. Just for future reference, the size of dose does not make a difference in a decision about shooting. A cat needs however much insulin he needs. The size of dose doesn't impact how the cycle will play out, if it's a good dose for that cat. Like Chris pointed out, sometimes when stalling, he could actually drop lower - especially on a day like today where he was nadiring at the end of the cycle.
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Hehe, cute. That made me giggle :)

Hopefully heading up.. but not too high!

Because he’s a weird one, I’m still gonna test around +5 or just before I head to bed …

and thanks for that bit of info - definitely puts me at ease a little.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
I had to google this! :)

Looks like he is heading up tonight.

Btw, you have shot similar levels before. Just for future reference, the size of dose does not make a difference in a decision about shooting. A cat needs however much insulin he needs. The size of dose doesn't impact how the cycle will play out, if it's a good dose for that cat. Like Chris pointed out, sometimes when stalling, he could actually drop lower - especially on a day like today where he was nadiring at the end of the cycle.
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Question.

Originally, I was going to increase in 3 days from new dose… but with these few blues does that mean I hold this dose for longer now? Protocol says 8-10 cycles? And how do I determine if it’s 8 or 10 cycles?
 
Gus the Furminator said:
Question.

Originally, I was going to increase in 3 days from new dose… but with these few blues does that mean I hold this dose for longer now? Protocol says 8-10 cycles? And how do I determine if it’s 8 or 10 cycles?
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The protocol says 8-10 cycles but in practise, doses where you see blue or green nadirs are held 10 cycles.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
The protocol says 8-10 cycles but in practise, doses where you see blue or green nadirs are held 10 cycles.
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thank you. Will hold longer then.

Last, probably silly, question but do I count the previous few days/cycles on new dose or start 10cycles from the day we start seeing that blue?
 
Gus the Furminator said:
Last, probably silly, question but do I count the previous few days/cycles on new dose or start 10cycles from the day we start seeing that blue?
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Not a stupid question at all. It's a good question. Actually, you count 10 cycles from the cycle in which you first see blue/green on a dose - with that cycle being cycle 1.

But considering that Gus is not new to blue and he did not see low blues, but was comfortably over 150, I would not hold the dose that long. Let us see where he lands after he clears the bounce and take a call then. He is seeing some glucose toxicity and would benefit from more aggressive increases.
 
Well that was short lived… +5 265

Guess I won’t have to worry tonight.

I can see how blue and greens can be addicting now.. here’s to hoping he doesn’t bounce like crazy!

Nice to see some action/progress though
 
Gus the Furminator said:
Well that was short lived… +5 265
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Gus!! Stop that right now mister!! There's no bouncing allowed!!
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Gus the Furminator said:
Summer, perhaps you can help me… I have some family that goes down to Daytona for the winter months and my cousin is visiting for 2 weeks over xmas. I want to give them some money to pick me up a few boxes of freestyle lite strips. They are $75/100 CAD here and I’ve heard between $17-21/50 in the US though that wasn’t a Florida price. Any chance you can do a google search on that area for me? And where I can send them (Walgreens or CVS?) I keep getting Canadian converted prices when I Google. Hope it’s not too much of a bother.
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Hi Kim. I'll look around. This is what I got from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/browse/heal...bZWeNe2E3UVhbzwrAiUaAv9hEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
 
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