11/23 Blue AMPS HIGH

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Patty and Blue GA & Brat

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https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/11-22-blue-amps-376.238948/

Morning. I was trying to catch someone to see if I needed to change the dose to .75?
I went ahead and gave him the .5
I am thinking it was just all the HC food yesterday keeping him in the red zone, but then
he's still high this morning. It's always something.

I read your post on the thread Mogs. I will test +1 and +1.5 to see where we're heading
today. We will start at 10% food if necessary and go from there.
 
I wouldn't feed anything at the moment, Patty. He's still up in the rafters. Indeed today probably the most valuable thing might be not to intervene at all unless he goes low (unlikely but always possible). That way you'd get a clearer picture of how long the effects of the carbs last in his system. Valuable info to glean for the future. [ETA: Might possibly throw some light on how much of Blue's 'bounce height'/duration is due to the body's counterregulatory mechanisms and how much due to carbs needed to keep him in safe numbers when he runs low.]


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Welcome back, Bluebird! (((Blue)))

I'm in two minds: feed LC because of the big drop, or just let the drop proceed.

He's still in the high pinks. For today, I'd be inclined not to feed anything just yet. He needs to get back into better numbers, and I think it would be better to let the excess carbs get out of his system. You're testing every 30 minutes so you're on point to catch any drop to a lower range really quickly.

What do you think yourself, Patty?


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It seems impossible to prevent big drops. I’d be inclined to stop trying to manipulate the curve unless he needs hc to prevent a dose decrease. My thoughts for worth it’s worth.
 
It seems impossible to prevent big drops. I’d be inclined to stop trying to manipulate the curve unless he needs hc to prevent a dose decrease. My thoughts for worth it’s worth.
I'm of the same mind, Elise. The only other possible approach to try after that might be to switch to feeding several reasonably-sized LC meals in the first half of the cycle (AMPS c. 60g; +2, +4, +6 - about 50g) and if necessary adjust the dose to help Blue get used to yellows, then blues, then greens.


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I'm of the same mind, Elise. The only other possible approach to try after that might be to switch to feeding several reasonably-sized LC meals in the first half of the cycle (AMPS c. 60g; +2, +4, +6 - about 50g) and if necessary adjust the dose to help Blue get used to yellows, then blues, then greens.


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This is what I would have done but it means changing her feeding for all and I thought I was told that won’t work.
 
You shouldn't need to change the afternoon meal for the rest of the kitties, just feed Blue extra in the early part of the cycle and perhaps keep him separate from the rest of the kitties when they get their afternoon meal. Is that maybe workable, Patty?


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A very small portion. It’s worth a try. My two eat different food together but Mocha eats very fast. I spend a couple minutes pushing her away from trying to eat Chai’s food. This morning I locked her out. Same amount of food but she inhales hers. Sometimes she will follow me to another room to get brushed.
 
Here’s the other issue I hope will very soon be addressed. I seriously doubt the dose is consistent. It’s impossible until you start using the calipers. I know syringes can vary by up to .25 based upon the lines. Heck, I even didn’t like using the ones with crooked lines. Maybe start a separate thread asking if anyone has done the math for using calipers with the brand of syringes you use.
 
I actually did find information on the caliper and syringes that I use. I just haven't started using it yet. I'll study again to make sure I have it right.
***BD Ultrafine II (US) 1.62mm = 1u (what I use now) .5 + 0.81mm
I tried to get the caliper set on .81 but as soon as I twist the screw on top it changes the number.
 
Try setting the caliper to a slightly higher or lower number based on which way your 0.81 moves when the screw is tightened.

Yes, it's frustrating but I think I've got it. Do you measure on the plastic ring or above?
Also, my next question...I read this on the sticky and do not understand what this means:

  • If you are using BD syringes, you will use the outside edges of the small arms measure the dose
 
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I didn’t use BD. Why dint you try using them as set and since it will be consistent not worry about where you measure. Either that or ask who uses calipers and BD. I know Susanne uses calipers but don’t know which syringes. @JaxBenji

When I measure about the protruding ring at the base, .81 which is .5 looks almost like 1 unit on the syringe. I guess it could be the difference in syringes so I will look at more of them.
 
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