11/1 Asia AMPS 568 PMPS 59, +.5 47, +2.5 84, +3.5 134

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+1 54, 107 on AlphaTRAK (had a big enough blood drop to do both so I did, want to see how close they are at lower numbers)
 
How often should I feed her now? And continue with the MC? Or regular LC food if she will eat it? The sticky says continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range, but doesn't specify which type of food
 
I'd expect a bit higher after 15% gravy but the main idea is that she above 50.
You said you have LC 9%.
I'd mix 1 teaspoon of 9% with 1 tsp meal 15% and offer it now.
 
Seems to be a larger difference between your AT and the Glucocard than we normally see. At least it'll give you some comfort she's not too low. What carbs you feed depends. If you feed MC, she'll go higher sooner, but you have to wait at least two hours after the MC is fed and she's got rising numbers before you can go to bed. If it's still early at your place, that could be a good option. If you go with LC, you can go to bed earlier - if she rises. If she doesn't, then you have to feed higher carbs and wait longer. It's a trade off. 54 is still rather low this early in the cycle and before onset. Personally, I'd go higher carbs.

As Tanya says, keep good notes on how much of what carb% you feed and when. You have to find out what works for Asia.
 
Tanya and Ducia said:
I'd expect a bit higher after 15% gravy but the main idea is that she above 50.
You said you have LC 9%.
I'd mix 1 teaspoon of 9% with 1 tsp meal 15% and offer it now.
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I gave her some of the FF gravy lovers chicken. I don't feel like food works on her that quickly, from how I interpret her +1's she's either continuing to drop from a double dip before the shot or she continues to rise her average of 20 points/hr. I don't know if I'm reading it right, but I feel like +2 shows more of how the food impacts her. Being as though she doesn't eat high carb food and hasn't for almost a decade, you would think it would have more of an impact
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Seems to be a larger difference between your AT and the Glucocard than we normally see. At least it'll give you some comfort she's not too low. What carbs you feed depends. If you feed MC, she'll go higher sooner, but you have to wait at least two hours after the MC is fed and she's got rising numbers before you can go to bed. If it's still early at your place, that could be a good option. If you go with LC, you can go to bed earlier - if she rises. If she doesn't, then you have to feed higher carbs and wait longer. It's a trade off. 54 is still rather low this early in the cycle and before onset. Personally, I'd go higher carbs.

As Tanya says, keep good notes on how much of what carb% you feed and when. You have to find out what works for Asia.
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Which meter is the wonky meter is the question here :confused: I think I will control solution both of them. Asia typically goes to the food bowl about once an hour. I'm not so worried about sleep, I just want to make sure she is safe. I'm not sure I'd be able to fall asleep even when I think she is safe. Ugh. Adrenaline. I'm about to test her again, it's been almost 30 minutes, I suspect a bigger rise this time if my hunch about food taking longer to affect her holds true.
 
Toebeans said:
Being as though she doesn't eat high carb food and hasn't for almost a decade, you would think it would have more of an impact
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Cats vary in how carb sensitive they are. Neko would get enough of a bump with 15% carbs (and she ate raw), some kitties need closer to 25% to get a good bump.
 
Gave her more FF gravy lovers and a drop of honey. She just licks the gravy off and doesn't touch the meat. Tried putting some gravy on her Rad cat food and she wouldn't touch it.
 
Great! I liked Instinct - meaty.
How much did you give? 2 teaspoons is good portion for a day like that.
It is 2 hours since you gave the injection - the dose will begin to work now, ECID of course.
I'd test in 30 min to see where 9% gets her.
If she is lower than 50 - offer 2 tsp gravy over 1 tsp 9%.

ETA: by gravy alone I mean pop the can, press the lid against the food to squeeze the gravy out - keeping the meat inside the can - and scoop as much gravy as you need.
 
Darwin and I bonded over nights like this! I did find with him (a PICKY boy!) that I could hide some of the FF gravy into a bit of his fav food, and he’d eat it. He wouldn’t touch the gravy alone except once when he was low and VERY hungry. Good luck!!!
 
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Great! I liked Instinct - meaty.
How much did you give? 2 teaspoons is good portion for a day like that.
It is 2 hours since you gave the injection - the dose will begin to work now, ECID of course.
I'd test in 30 min to see where 9% gets her.
If she is lower than 50 - offer 2 tsp gravy over 1 tsp 9%.

ETA: by gravy alone I mean pop the can, press the lid against the food to squeeze the gravy out - keeping the meat inside the can - and scoop as much gravy as you need.
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I gave her about 2 tsp, she ate about 1, maybe even a little less. She's not food motivated and the reason I have all these weird cans of cat food on hand is because she went through a not eating episode in January and I went and bought just about every grain free brand and flavor I could in an effort to coax her to eat something.
 
+2.5 84, now we're getting somewhere! I'm guessing that has more to do with the honey & gravy than actual protein, so the trick going forward is for her to eat real food.
 
Tasha & Darwin said:
Darwin and I bonded over nights like this! I did find with him (a PICKY boy!) that I could hide some of the FF gravy into a bit of his fav food, and he’d eat it. He wouldn’t touch the gravy alone except once when he was low and VERY hungry. Good luck!!!
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I'm glad you pop in here and there! So happy for you and Darwin, he was the first success story I followed since joining and you two will always hold a place in my heart. Asia is an expert "what did you put in my food" detector. If something is awry, she walks away from it. :facepalm: Fortunately, she loves the gravy, I've just experienced when she's had some, she pouts a bit about eating her boring regular food after.
 
Squalliesmom said:
Don't give her too much "real" food, you need her to be a little hungry in case she needs more gravy or high-carb food. :)
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Won't her numbers just crash down after the carbs wear off if she doesn't have any real food in her though? And if she's sustained, she's less likely to go low and need more HC food? I know the insulin can make her go low too, but what do you do? Make potential insulin drop the priority and forget about the carb crash?
 
Tanya and Ducia said:
The insulin will definitely make her go low, that 's why the testings and that's why it should be priority.

No food since the last test about 60 min ago?
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Right, she had about a tsp of the instinct duck then, should I try to get her to eat more or hold off? Carb crash + insulin drop sounds ugly together, that's why I'm confused how to do with the food. The carbs artificially inflate the numbers (or if not artificially, very temporarily) and then you're back to where you started PLUS an insulin drop on top of it.
 
Hold off on any more food as long as she's above the "take action" number or you can give her a little of her regular low carb food if it's a normal feeding time

When they drop too low, you want to feed the HC and then continue testing for at least 2 hours.....every 30 minutes for 1 hour and then one more test an hour later

IF they drop below 50 again during that time, you repeat the HC and the 2 hour "clock" starts over

Each time you have to feed HC (or Karo/honey/syrup) you want to continue testing for the next 2 hours to make sure they're staying up
 
Toebeans said:
Right, she had about a tsp of the instinct duck then, should I try to get her to eat more or hold off? Carb crash + insulin drop sounds ugly together, that's why I'm confused how to do with the food. The carbs artificially inflate the numbers (or if not artificially, very temporarily) and then you're back to where you started PLUS an insulin drop on top of it.
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Testing s the best guide to what food to give and when.
She did eat some of the Duck 9%.
Offer another 2 tsp of it now and retest 30 min after.
If she was to drop she would have done it by now because she ate very little meat, honey and gravy are gone by now and she still surfs in safe Green numbers like 84 no food - 88. The nadir is ahead.
If she eats 2 tsp LC now she might keep surfing.
You 'll have to keep testing to know what to do.
 
Chris & China said:
Hold off on any more food as long as she's above the "take action" number or you can give her a little of her regular low carb food if it's a normal feeding time
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Chris, I understand that Stacy is concerned that Asia hasn't eaten any real meal tonight - only gravy and a little of LC 9%.
 
Tanya and Ducia said:
Testing s the best guide to what food to give and when.
She did eat some of the Duck 9%.
Offer another 2 tsp of it now and retest 30 min after.
If she was to drop she would have done it by now because she ate very little meat, honey and gravy are gone by now and she still surfs in safe Green numbers like 84 no food - 88. The nadir is ahead.
If she eats 2 tsp LC now she might keep surfing.
You 'll have to keep testing to know what to do.
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Okay, that makes sense. She just ate some Rad cat lamb (low/no carb), here's hoping no more drops. Should I test 30 mins from now (just ate)? Or 30 from her last test (in 10 mins)?
 
That's why I said to go ahead and let her eat her regular low carb food if it's a usual feeding time (or she hasn't eaten much)

Hopefully it'll encourage her to surf the rest of the cycle but I'm betting at some point she's going to bounce again......that's a big drop from 311 @ +5
 
Chris & China said:
Hold off on any more food as long as she's above the "take action" number or you can give her a little of her regular low carb food if it's a normal feeding time

When they drop too low, you want to feed the HC and then continue testing for at least 2 hours.....every 30 minutes for 1 hour and then one more test an hour later

IF they drop below 50 again during that time, you repeat the HC and the 2 hour "clock" starts over

Each time you have to feed HC (or Karo/honey/syrup) you want to continue testing for the next 2 hours to make sure they're staying up
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Thank you, printing this out for my notebook.
 
Chris & China said:
That's why I said to go ahead and let her eat her regular low carb food if it's a usual feeding time (or she hasn't eaten much)

Hopefully it'll encourage her to surf the rest of the cycle but I'm betting at some point she's going to bounce again......that's a big drop from 311 @ +5
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I felt horrible for not testing her more when I saw the 77, but her ears did need a break and I thought it was going to be another pink day. :(
 
134 @ +3.5, that's a pretty big jump, is it possible the gravy and all that stuff is just hitting her? I don't feel like she makes use of her food right away, she's a sluggish old lady cat, after all, but it's hard to know for sure. That would be a whopping 2 hours if so. Maybe she's also starting a bounce? I seemed to have misplaced the Asia instruction manual...oh wait! She didn't come with one. :confused:
 
It can sometimes take a little while to get them moving.....that's why we say to keep testing for at least 2 hours.....to make sure they're truly going up and able to stay up!

You're doing great and I think you're probably past the time you'll have to worry but I know you'll test awhile longer anyway. I agree that she's probably starting her next bounce

I have to get off the computer for tonight, but I know @Tanya and Ducia will be up for awhile longer to help you out if you need it.

Now Asia....no need to get on the trampoline!!...How about a nice surfboard instead??
 
Chris & China said:
It can sometimes take a little while to get them moving.....that's why we say to keep testing for at least 2 hours.....to make sure they're truly going up and able to stay up!

You're doing great and I think you're probably past the time you'll have to worry but I know you'll test awhile longer anyway. I agree that she's probably starting her next bounce

I have to get off the computer for tonight, but I know @Tanya and Ducia will be up for awhile longer to help you out if you need it.

Now Asia....no need to get on the trampoline!!...How about a nice surfboard instead??
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Thanks for your support and knowledge, Chris. There is no way I could call it safe right now with her nadir just around the corner. The 311 in the middle of the day I called it safe and then she threw me the 77 at PMPS. She's just full of surprises, but better she did this tonight than tomorrow when I have to be out a lot.
 
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