10/7 Blaze AMPS 396, +5.5 395, PMPS 340, +2 282, +3 202, +4 140, + 4.5 95, +5 97, +5.5 79, +6 87

Sarah and Blaze

Sarah and Blaze

Member Since 2019
Good morning!

Blaze’s amps is 396 today, he still hasn’t come down very much, today is his 4th day on 0.75U but Blaze likes to drop on work nights so we’ll see how this week goes!

Hope everyone has a good day!:)
 
I hope Blaze surfs safely for you Sarah!

Now Blaze. Climb out of those trees and at least try to make it to the beach :cool:

Have a great day you two :)
 
AmandaE said:
It’s a good night to try and use what you know from his sheet to determine when youll see him come back up :) it’s nice to see Blaze safely in blue :)
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From what I can tell, he usually starts coming back up a bit at +5 or +6 but I usually intervene with MC or HC food and tonight I’m trying to only give LC snacks. Trying to keep him safe. I probably can’t stay up too much longer though so hopefully he comes back up a little bit!
 
If he drops below 90 tonight, would that be an earned reduction, even though I increased his dose this PM from 0.75U to 1U?

I increased his dose from 0.75U to 1U this evening after being advised to do so, I know now that I should have held the dose for 7 days.
 
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Sarah and Blaze said:
If he drops below 90 tonight, would that be an earned reduction, even though I increased his dose this PM from 0.75U to 1U?

I increased his dose from 0.75U to 1U this evening after being advised to do so, I know now that I should have held the dose for 7 days.
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Yes because it would have been best to not increase the dose. As Wendy pointed out in your other thread, taking doses back up after a failed reduction applies to TR and not SLGS. Theoretically, the dose increase “should” have waited 7 days and after a curve.

While you didn’t need to use HC necessarily as he started to drop, I definitely would have upped the carbs as he was coming down so fast tonight to slow the drop. Fast drops like he’s doing can result in hard bounces. Perhaps some MC food would have slowed him down. Once he flattens out, then LC food can help him stay flat.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Yes because it would have been best to not increase the dose. As Wendy pointed out in your other thread, taking doses back up after a failed reduction applies to TR and not SLGS. Theoretically, the dose increase “should” have waited 7 days and after a curve.
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I’m still learning, I come to this forum for a lot of help and someone told me I could go back to 1U before the 7 days and I listened to that advice and I understand it was not the correct information. This is all hard and stressful and I’m trying to do my best.
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Yes I understand, I was advised incorrectly. I’m sorry...
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There is absolutely no need to apologize. :bighug:

I read the other condo and saw you were misadvised. Don’t worry about it. You are doing your best. I just wanted to answer your question about the reduction if he drops below 90 and wanted to explain why.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Yes because it would have been best to not increase the dose. As Wendy pointed out in your other thread, taking doses back up after a failed reduction applies to TR and not SLGS. Theoretically, the dose increase “should” have waited 7 days and after a curve.

While you didn’t need to use HC necessarily as he started to drop, I definitely would have upped the carbs as he was coming down so fast tonight to slow the drop. Fast drops like he’s doing can result in hard bounces. Perhaps some MC food would have slowed him down. Once he flattens out, then LC food can help him stay flat.
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I’m getting so much information that differs and I just don’t know where to go or what to listen to anymore. I was told that I don’t need to use MC or HC unless Blaze is much lower than what he is tonight and to try to use LC food to help him. I am just beyond confused after tonight.
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
I’m still learning, I come to this forum for a lot of help and someone told me I could go back to 1U before the 7 days and I listened to that advice and I understand it was not the correct information. This is all hard and stressful and I’m trying to do my best.
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Yes, sweetie, it is hard and stressful at first. You will get there.

Sarah and Blaze said:
I’m getting so much information that differs and I just don’t know where to go or what to listen to anymore. I was told that I don’t need to use MC or HC unless Blaze is much lower than what he is tonight and to try to use LC food to help him. I am just beyond confused after tonight.
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Each of us have different experiences with our cats. And our cats have different carb sensitivities.

In most cases, you want to stick with LC to the greatest extent that you can. However, if the numbers are falling fast and your cat is not responding to LC or you know he’s not really carb sensitive, you want to try and slow them down with a bit higher carbs so you don’t get a huge bounce. In the other condo, Chris did point out that for fast drops you would want to try LC first and then MC if that didn’t work.

I’ve found bounces from fast-dropping numbers to be worst than bounces from lower numbers. My baby could dive fast and the best way to stop it and flatten it was to feed her 10-13% carbs.

Our goal is to get to as flat a “curve” as we can so if you can get to that using only LC, fantastic. But if you need a bit of MC to flatten the curve, then use it.

We certainly don’t mean to swamp you with a lot of different info. As Wendy said, it’s a peer reviewed board so you are going to get different responses based on different experiences. Look at SSs and see if the advice giver’s cat was flat or bouncy. How did they respond to food?

We do have a lot of bouncy cats here and I’ve helped a lot of members with them. Using food to manage the curve and flatten it out is a great benefit.

Hang in there and don’t get discouraged. Every one of us has walked your path....just learn what you can and see how it applies to your baby. :bighug::bighug::bighug:

Keep asking questions:smuggrin:
 
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Sarah and Blaze said:
@Margie and Jackson

I think I’m just drained, emotionally and physically. I’m making mistakes left and right today and I’m so frustrated with myself. I’m just so confused and feel disheartened tonight.
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See above.

Sarah....you aren’t making mistakes. You are learning. Don’t get discouraged......the journey might be a long one so just keep moving forward. I promise it will get much better. In a month, you’ll look back and be amazed at what you know.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Yes, sweetie, it is hard and stressful at first. You will get there.


Yes, I saw that, too. Each of us have different experiences with our cats. And our cats have different carb sensitivities.

In most cases, you want to stick with LC to the greatest extent that you can. However, if the numbers are falling fast and your cat is not responding to LC or you know he’s not really carb sensitive, you want to try and slow them down with a bit higher carbs so you don’t get a huge bounce. I’ve found bounces from fast-dropping numbers to be worst than bounces from lower numbers. My baby could dive fast and the best way to stop it and flatten it was to feed her 10-13% carbs.

Our goal is to get to as flat a “curve” as we can so if you can get to that using only LC, fantastic. But if you need a bit of MC to flatten the curve, then use it.

We certainly don’t mean to swamp you with a lot of different info. As Wendy said, it’s a peer reviewed board so you are going to get different responses based on different experiences. Look at SSs and see if the advice giver’s cat was flat or bouncy. How did they respond to food?

We do have a lot of bouncy cats here and I’ve helped a lot of members with them. Using food to manage the curve and flatten it out is a great benefit.

Hang in there and don’t get discouraged. Every one of us has walked your path....just learn what you can and see how it applies to your baby. :bighug::bighug::bighug:

Keep asking questions:smuggrin:
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Thank you Marje, you're so sweet and I appreciate your advice so much. I think I just got so much information tonight and I just got confused, obviously because of the dose increase and only feeding LC snacks when he was dropping quickly. I normally would have given MC to help slow the drop. I'm just so tired today and am not thinking straight I guess. Work is going to be awful tomorrow:blackeye: I should have given MC when he was dropping so quickly but I've learned a few lessons tonight.

Blaze is a bouncy cat and I should have known better, I'm sure he will be bouncing for days again but at least I know to hold this dose. And I should hold the 1U dose now correct? I'm sorry, I'm just so mixed up tonight.
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Thank you Marje, you're so sweet and I appreciate your advice so much. I think I just got so much information tonight and I just got confused, obviously because of the dose increase and only feeding LC snacks when he was dropping quickly. I normally would have given MC to help slow the drop. I'm just so tired today and am not thinking straight I guess. Work is going to be awful tomorrow:blackeye: I should have given MC when he was dropping so quickly but I've learned a few lessons tonight.

Blaze is a bouncy cat and I should have known better, I'm sure he will be bouncing for days again but at least I know to hold this dose. And I should hold the 1U dose now correct? I'm sorry, I'm just so mixed up tonight.
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You’re welcome. I understand your confusion and it’s not your fault. Deep breath and tomorrow is a new day! You learned a lot tonight and that’s always a good thing.

Your instincts to use MC to slow him down we’re excellent. Believe in yourself. I promise I can look at so many places on Gracie’s SS where I should have used something else. Learn and move forward. Blaze loves you no matter if you feed him LC, MC, or HC. He knows you are trying to help him.

Yes...hold the dose since you are already there. And there really is,no need for any apology. You did great!!!
 
Marje and Gracie said:
You’re welcome. I understand your confusion and it’s not your fault. Deep breath and tomorrow is a new day! You learned a lot tonight and that’s always a good thing.

Your instincts to use MC to slow him down we’re excellent. Believe in yourself. I promise I can look at so many places on Gracie’s SS where I should have used something else. Learn and move forward. Blaze loves you no matter if you feed him LC, MC, or HC. He knows you are trying to help him.

Yes...hold the dose since you are already there. And there really is,no need for any apology. You did great!!!
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Well Blaze dropped to 79 @ +5.5

I gave MC at +5 and now I'm going to give HC
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Well Blaze dropped to 79 @ +5.5

I gave MC at +5 and now I'm going to give HC
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Sarah...I’m still here so you can take the 911 down. It’s ok to give him the HC so you can get him up but it’s going to keep you up longer waiting for the HC to wear off. Test him again 30 mins after you feed. I’ll be here.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Sarah...I’m still here so you can take the 911 down. It’s ok to give him the HC so you can get him up but it’s going to keep you up longer waiting for the HC to wear off. Test him again 30 mins after you feed. I’ll be here.
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Okay he's eating some HC now. Is there anything else I should give him? Dry food to help keep him up longer?
 
Thanks for taking the 911 down. Please reduce the dose back to 0.75u tomorrow.

Here are some guidelines to help you:
  • You generally want to use the lowest carb food to get the job done; for fast drops, try LC first but you might find that MC is always going to be your carb of choice.
  • Bounce clearing cycles are active cycles and addressing the drop early is important; the BG can continue to drop throughout a bounce clearing cycle unless you get it slowed down.
  • In general, but with bounce clearing cycles being a potential exception, the closer you get to midcycle, the less carbs you want to use or you will affect duration.
The problem with using HC food at a 79 is that it wears off in a couple hours. On a bounce clearing cycle, that means he might drop more. Let’s hope he doesn’t. If you were to give dry, it might take an hour or more to kick in and then it would add to his BG tomorrow along with any bounce.

I know you need to get to bed. If he’s up, you are probably going to need to catch a two hour nap and then test him again.

I’ll be here when you get the next BG.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Thanks for taking the 911 down. Please reduce the dose back to 0.75u tomorrow.

Here are some guidelines to help you:
  • You generally want to use the lowest carb food to get the job done; for fast drops, try LC first but you might find that MC is always going to be your carb of choice.
  • Bounce clearing cycles are active cycles and addressing the drop early is important; the BG can continue to drop throughout a bounce clearing cycle unless you get it slowed down.
  • In general, but with bounce clearing cycles being a potential exception, the closer you get to midcycle, the less carbs you want to use or you will affect duration.
The problem with using HC food at a 79 is that it wears off in a couple hours. On a bounce clearing cycle, that means he might drop more. Let’s hope he doesn’t. If you were to give dry, it might take an hour or more to kick in and then it would add to his BG tomorrow along with any bounce.

I know you need to get to bed. If he’s up, you are probably going to need to catch a two hour nap and then test him again.

I’ll be here when you get the next BG.
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Okay thank you for all that and I will go back to 0.75U tomorrow morning.

So if he is up at his next test, I wait two hours to test him again?
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Okay he is up to 87, do I feed more HC? When do I test again.
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The HC you gave might continue to bring him up. I’d give him a good helping of MC and let him go 1.5 hours altho if you have the auto feeder, you could probably leave out a couple helping of MC, to be safe, an hour or so apart.


Sarah and Blaze said:
@Marje and Gracie

I have an auto feeder with 5 compartments I can use
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the other cats won’t get into it?
 
Marje and Gracie said:
The HC you gave might continue to bring him up. I’d give him a good helping of MC and let him go 1.5 hours altho if you have the auto feeder, you could probably leave out a couple helping of MC, to be safe, an hour or so apart.



the other cats won’t get into it?
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Okay so give him a good size snack of MC now and then put another MC snack in the auto feeder to be available in an hour too? and then test in 1.5 hours>

Blaze is a food bully so if the civvies try to eat from it, he usually pushes them out of the way
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Okay so give him a good size snack of MC now and then put another MC snack in the auto feeder to be available in an hour too? and then test in 1.5 hours>

Blaze is a food bully so if the civvies try to eat from it, he usually pushes them out of the way
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If you feel comfortable leaving out the food and sleeping, that’s fine. He’s close to where he was the other night when you left out food.

ok?
 
Marje and Gracie said:
If you feel comfortable leaving out the food and sleeping, that’s fine. He’s close to where he was the other night when you left out food.

ok?
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Yes, I am comfortable with that. He's eating MC now and I will put snacks in the auto feeder for the next couple hours to help keep him up.

Thank you SO SO MUCH Marje! I really appreciate you helping me through this!:bighug:
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Yes, I am comfortable with that. He's eating MC now and I will put snacks in the auto feeder for the next couple hours to help keep him up.

Thank you SO SO MUCH Marje! I really appreciate you helping me through this!:bighug:
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Perfect. You’re welcome. I hope you sleep and have a great day tomorrow.

night!
 
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