Frosty
Member Since 2012
PurrFace is off to a good start this morning. We have our fingers crossed that he can stay in the "not so scary" GREEN BG#s. 
PUrrFace's Condo
PUrrFace's Condo
10/28 PurrFace PMPS 353 +2/391 +9/371
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GregFurBall
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96
Hey PurrFace. Those greens are looking nice for you.
You could have a busy cycle.
Karen
Hey PurrFace. Those greens are looking nice for you.
You could have a busy cycle.
Karen
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96
Good morning Karen. We're expecting a busy cycle if he stays flat it will be great but I think he's going to drop a bit. Was planning to test at +2. He's been playing and grooming since his AM shot so that's a good sign. One thing we noticed is that when his BG#s got better his fur got better. Prior to and during the first month of insulin he had dandruff and his fur was kind do stiff. Now the dandruff is gone and his fur is back to being smooth and silky like it used to be.
Good morning Karen. We're expecting a busy cycle if he stays flat it will be great but I think he's going to drop a bit. Was planning to test at +2. He's been playing and grooming since his AM shot so that's a good sign. One thing we noticed is that when his BG#s got better his fur got better. Prior to and during the first month of insulin he had dandruff and his fur was kind do stiff. Now the dandruff is gone and his fur is back to being smooth and silky like it used to be.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39
Hi! Oh, my. Testing more often than 15 minutes isn't usually useful, but with a 32 at +2 you are really low. Are you using a human meter or an Alpha Trac?
Hi! Oh, my. Testing more often than 15 minutes isn't usually useful, but with a 32 at +2 you are really low. Are you using a human meter or an Alpha Trac?
Dyana
Member Since 2009
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39
15 or 20 minutes will be fine. It might take 25 minutes to a half hour before the food will influence the BGs.
With these low numbers so early in the cycle, you want to get them up, now, but don't feed too much as you don't want Purrface too full. You might have to keep feeding him for the next several hours.
15 or 20 minutes will be fine. It might take 25 minutes to a half hour before the food will influence the BGs.
With these low numbers so early in the cycle, you want to get them up, now, but don't feed too much as you don't want Purrface too full. You might have to keep feeding him for the next several hours.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39
Ok, you are using a human meter, thank goodness. Ah, Dyana's here. Good!
Ok, you are using a human meter, thank goodness. Ah, Dyana's here. Good!
Dyana
Member Since 2009
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39
I think if PurrFace will eat it, that a little LC with a couple drops of honey on top or mixed in, or maybe a little MC if you have it, would help him to sustain higher numbers longer. Just honey, can make him drop back down again quickly, once it wears off.Frosty said:
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39
All right, I'm here, and I can be here for a while if need be. Your's cat's nadir has been very, very late recently. Sometimes at +7 or +9. As you know, you are going to have to stay on this for many hours, possibly. Do you have enough supplies? I assume you can stay home all day.
I don't want to scare you, but do you have a plan for getting to the emergency vet? Do you have a driver?
Please keep us posted with the BG as much as you can, but, of course, not at the expense of paying attention to the cat. As Dyana said, a teaspoon at a time to avoid the cat getting too full too fast.
Here's the beginning our countdown:
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (What did PurrFace eat? What percent of carbs if you know?)
32 +2 Fed honey and High Carb (how much?)
All right, I'm here, and I can be here for a while if need be. Your's cat's nadir has been very, very late recently. Sometimes at +7 or +9. As you know, you are going to have to stay on this for many hours, possibly. Do you have enough supplies? I assume you can stay home all day.
I don't want to scare you, but do you have a plan for getting to the emergency vet? Do you have a driver?
Please keep us posted with the BG as much as you can, but, of course, not at the expense of paying attention to the cat. As Dyana said, a teaspoon at a time to avoid the cat getting too full too fast.
Here's the beginning our countdown:
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (What did PurrFace eat? What percent of carbs if you know?)
32 +2 Fed honey and High Carb (how much?)
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (What did PurrFace eat? What percent of carbs if you know?)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb (how much?) NOT a 32 (Sorry!)
44 +2.25
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (What did PurrFace eat? What percent of carbs if you know?)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb (how much?) NOT a 32 (Sorry!)
44 +2.25
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44
Dale. We have supplies. The closest ER Vet is 30 minutes away. We have a driver and can stay home all day. The LC he ate was FF CLASSIC. My DW gave him about .75oz of the HC FF GRAVEY LLOVERS. Told her to hold off and only tsp at a time
Dale. We have supplies. The closest ER Vet is 30 minutes away. We have a driver and can stay home all day. The LC he ate was FF CLASSIC. My DW gave him about .75oz of the HC FF GRAVEY LLOVERS. Told her to hold off and only tsp at a time
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
Dyana
Member Since 2009
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63
That's a good response to the HC. You'll need to stay diligent in the testing, as the food influence to the numbers can wear off quickly. When he gets up into the 70s or 80s, then you can switch to a teaspoon of LC.
You're doing a good job.
That's a good response to the HC. You'll need to stay diligent in the testing, as the food influence to the numbers can wear off quickly. When he gets up into the 70s or 80s, then you can switch to a teaspoon of LC.
You're doing a good job.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63
Thank you. We're testing again in 5 minutes and will post again. Thank you Dale for posting the numbers. I didn't think of that. Called and verified ER Vet location and hours of operation. They were very nice and said they are their until 8am tomorrow morning and call with any questions and a tech or vet will get on phone with us. My DW is a bag of nerves. I think Imight have to puta drop of Scotch in her coffee to calmer down.
Thank you. We're testing again in 5 minutes and will post again. Thank you Dale for posting the numbers. I didn't think of that. Called and verified ER Vet location and hours of operation. They were very nice and said they are their until 8am tomorrow morning and call with any questions and a tech or vet will get on phone with us. My DW is a bag of nerves. I think Imight have to puta drop of Scotch in her coffee to calmer down.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63
You're welcome. Usually someone can post the countdown for you. You are a bundle of nerves and testing and feeding -- especially your first time!
Congrats on the reducie!!!!
(More than a drop of scotch, by the way. )
You're welcome. Usually someone can post the countdown for you. You are a bundle of nerves and testing and feeding -- especially your first time!
Congrats on the reducie!!!!
(More than a drop of scotch, by the way.
)
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54
His test @+2.75 dropped to54. Gave him a teaspoon of HC with 2 small drops of honey. I'm on my iPad in the room we're testing in. Unfortunately I can't update the SS from my iPad so I have to go into another room to use the PC. I'll do that now.
His test @+2.75 dropped to54. Gave him a teaspoon of HC with 2 small drops of honey. I'm on my iPad in the room we're testing in. Unfortunately I can't update the SS from my iPad so I have to go into another room to use the PC. I'll do that now.
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54
Just update the SS and will attempt to keep it current during this ordeal. Thank the Lord for all the great people in LL. What would we do without you? Doing another test in 5 minutes. This one will be 20 minutes after the last one. Will post it ASAP.
PS Max, She only gets a drop since she isn't use to alcohol and I have to save some for me when this all over!!! Just kidding of course.
Just update the SS and will attempt to keep it current during this ordeal. Thank the Lord for all the great people in LL. What would we do without you? Doing another test in 5 minutes. This one will be 20 minutes after the last one. Will post it ASAP.
PS Max, She only gets a drop since she isn't use to alcohol and I have to save some for me when this all over!!! Just kidding of course.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace AMPS 96 +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
This drop is ok. Don't worry. You are doing fine. You don't need the honey at this point. Unless you see another huge drop such as below 40, just feed catfood. We expect the BG to go down and up again this early in the cycle. As Dyana said, a teaspoon of LC or MC will help to keep him steady and will last longer than the HC. If your next number is still above 50, I would give a teaspoon of LC. CORRECTION: Dyana says to wait until you see a 70 to switch to LC -- do that eventhough I might give it on the next test. Dyana is more experienced than I am.
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
This drop is ok. Don't worry. You are doing fine. You don't need the honey at this point. Unless you see another huge drop such as below 40, just feed catfood. We expect the BG to go down and up again this early in the cycle. As Dyana said, a teaspoon of LC or MC will help to keep him steady and will last longer than the HC. If your next number is still above 50, I would give a teaspoon of LC. CORRECTION: Dyana says to wait until you see a 70 to switch to LC -- do that eventhough I might give it on the next test. Dyana is more experienced than I am.
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58
Dyana & Dale unfortunately we gave him a spoonful of HC with a drop of honey after his +3 test before I read your post. Will test again in 7 minutes and if numbers are above 70 as Dyana said will go to straight LC. If the number is above 70 should we test every 15 minutes and feed 1 spoonful or every 20 minutes and 1 spoonful
Dyana & Dale unfortunately we gave him a spoonful of HC with a drop of honey after his +3 test before I read your post. Will test again in 7 minutes and if numbers are above 70 as Dyana said will go to straight LC. If the number is above 70 should we test every 15 minutes and feed 1 spoonful or every 20 minutes and 1 spoonful
Dyana
Member Since 2009
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58
When he gets into the 60s, you can switch to testing every half hour. You're doing fine. And Dale, thanks for being here, and those recaps are great.
It's just because it's so early in the cycle and you have a long way yet to go before nadir, that I suggest you switch to LC once he gets to the 70s. If it was later in the cycle or after nadir, then LC in the 50s would be fine.Frosty said:
When he gets into the 60s, you can switch to testing every half hour. You're doing fine. And Dale, thanks for being here, and those recaps are great.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
It's ok that you fed the honey, but be aware that the 58 is due to the honey. It's an artificial number and does not mean PurrFace is surfing. The humber would have dropped if not for the honey and the honey will wear off quickly. Better to err on the side of giving too many carbs in this situation than too few
If you didn't feed the 58, I suggest that you give some HC.
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
It's ok that you fed the honey, but be aware that the 58 is due to the honey. It's an artificial number and does not mean PurrFace is surfing. The humber would have dropped if not for the honey and the honey will wear off quickly. Better to err on the side of giving too many carbs in this situation than too few
If you didn't feed the 58, I suggest that you give some HC.
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.2
Dyana, He just tested at a 64@3.25 so I'll begin testing every 30 minutes. We gave him another spoonful of HC with 1 drop if honey. Should we continue with the drop of honey with the spoonful of food.now that we're testing every 30 minutes?
And Dale as Dyana thank you so much for helping especially with posting the numbers it's such a hugh help and I greatly appreciate it.
Dyana, He just tested at a 64@3.25 so I'll begin testing every 30 minutes. We gave him another spoonful of HC with 1 drop if honey. Should we continue with the drop of honey with the spoonful of food.now that we're testing every 30 minutes?
And Dale as Dyana thank you so much for helping especially with posting the numbers it's such a hugh help and I greatly appreciate it.
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.2
You guys are doing great. You sound cool, calm, and collected. You're having no trouble raising PurrFace's numbers into good levels. I do not think this is a situation that warrants an ER visit. That seems a bit excessive to me.
You might want to take a look at the post on handling low numbers. Now that you've got your kitty's numbers in the 50 - 60 range, you can test in 30 min. What you want to see is whether PurrFace is staying in that range vs. dropping. You'll want to get 2 tests where the numbers are above 50 without benefit of HC. If he holds in that range, you can then test every hour.
You guys are doing great. You sound cool, calm, and collected. You're having no trouble raising PurrFace's numbers into good levels. I do not think this is a situation that warrants an ER visit. That seems a bit excessive to me.
You might want to take a look at the post on handling low numbers. Now that you've got your kitty's numbers in the 50 - 60 range, you can test in 30 min. What you want to see is whether PurrFace is staying in that range vs. dropping. You'll want to get 2 tests where the numbers are above 50 without benefit of HC. If he holds in that range, you can then test every hour.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.2
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.2
Thank you Sienne. I didn't think we would need to make an ER visit but I wanted to have all the bases covered just in case.
Do I continue to give him a spoonful of LC after each 1 hour test?
Thank you Sienne. I didn't think we would need to make an ER visit but I wanted to have all the bases covered just in case.
Boy it's a good think we aren't doing this with a video camera. I think what little hair I have left on my head either fell out or turned grayer.
If I'm understanding this correctly I should keep giving him the spoonful of HC until he hits 70 or higher and then switch to LC, testing every 30 minutes and when we get 2 readings above 50 then test every hour. Correct?
Do I continue to give him a spoonful of LC after each 1 hour test?
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2/39 2.25/44 +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.2
This is your first time using honey and food to avoid a hypo. Do what you feel comfortable with in regard to the honey. You can't really make a big mistake by giving too many carbs although you don't want the cat to get too full before nadir. Maybe someone else will give you her two cents, too. If this were my cat, I would not give the honey right now with these numbers.
For later: The reason we like to discontinue the honey (or syrup) when we get above 50 is because it gives you artificial numbers. This is also the reason for discontinuing the HC when you can (depending on your cat, where you are in the cycle, and how the numbers are looking). You won't be able to tell when he is surfing nicely in the 70s or 80s if you are giving honey. You'll stay worried longer and the cat will get tired of being poked. The honey wears off fast, the number drops, and you are seeing the number drop which is stressful for you, and keeps you poking and feeding longer than you need to be. The MC or LC will help the cat surf when nadir has finally passed. We just don't know when nadir will be for PurrFace today based on his recent history. Could be around +6, could be way out around +9 or even later.
This is your first time using honey and food to avoid a hypo. Do what you feel comfortable with in regard to the honey. You can't really make a big mistake by giving too many carbs although you don't want the cat to get too full before nadir. Maybe someone else will give you her two cents, too. If this were my cat, I would not give the honey right now with these numbers.
For later: The reason we like to discontinue the honey (or syrup) when we get above 50 is because it gives you artificial numbers. This is also the reason for discontinuing the HC when you can (depending on your cat, where you are in the cycle, and how the numbers are looking). You won't be able to tell when he is surfing nicely in the 70s or 80s if you are giving honey. You'll stay worried longer and the cat will get tired of being poked. The honey wears off fast, the number drops, and you are seeing the number drop which is stressful for you, and keeps you poking and feeding longer than you need to be. The MC or LC will help the cat surf when nadir has finally passed. We just don't know when nadir will be for PurrFace today based on his recent history. Could be around +6, could be way out around +9 or even later.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
101 +3.75
Now that you are over 100 (I would double check that one, but it could be that high!), if you are actually over 100, feed some LC and relax until your next test. Unless you are afraid of losing power to your computer, don't worry about what to feed at the next test. It will depend on the number you get. However, I suggest that you SAVE (not just bookmark) that link that Sienne put up: "Handling Low Numbers," and print it out.
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
101 +3.75
Now that you are over 100 (I would double check that one, but it could be that high!), if you are actually over 100, feed some LC and relax until your next test. Unless you are afraid of losing power to your computer, don't worry about what to feed at the next test. It will depend on the number you get. However, I suggest that you SAVE (not just bookmark) that link that Sienne put up: "Handling Low Numbers," and print it out.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101
Sienne wrote:
"Without benefit of HC" means after the HC has worn off. How long this takes is different for each cat. I think it wears off in about 1/2 to 1 full hour. So, to be safe, One Hour after the last time you fed HC you take a test, and then you want 2 more tests that are above 50 after that. Anyone have a different answer?
Sienne wrote:
"Without benefit of HC" means after the HC has worn off. How long this takes is different for each cat. I think it wears off in about 1/2 to 1 full hour. So, to be safe, One Hour after the last time you fed HC you take a test, and then you want 2 more tests that are above 50 after that. Anyone have a different answer?
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101
I misinterpreted the instructions and feed him a spoonfull of LC after his 101 test. My DW is testing him now, since it is 30 minutes past his last test. She just told me it's 97 so will give him spoonful of HC and stay HC. If he is above the 50 that Sienne stated he'll get the LC then tested in 30 minutes and if that test is above 50 he get LC and we can test every hour. I hope that's right because my mind is going in all directions.
I misinterpreted the instructions and feed him a spoonfull of LC after his 101 test. My DW is testing him now, since it is 30 minutes past his last test. She just told me it's 97 so will give him spoonful of HC and stay HC. If he is above the 50 that Sienne stated he'll get the LC then tested in 30 minutes and if that test is above 50 he get LC and we can test every hour. I hope that's right because my mind is going in all directions.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2.5/63 +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
101 +3.75 1 tsp LC
97 +4.25 1 tsp HC
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 (Did you feed anything?)
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
101 +3.75 1 tsp LC
97 +4.25 1 tsp HC
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +2.75/54 +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97
You are doing great! PurrFace is in a very, very safe range for BG as long as you can stay with him in case his BG starts to drop again.
There are two different issues: 1. When to discontinue HC and 2. When to stop testing so often and test only once every hour.
You can discontinue using HC and use LC instead after you get a number above 70. Unless the number drops down again below 70 (or maybe even lower? Anyone?) you can use LC for the 1 tsp feedings.
You can stop testing every 15 to 20 minutes and start testing every hour when you have 1) not fed HC for at least one hour AND 2)You see a test at that time showing a BG over 50; AND 3) you see 2 more tests -- 15 minutes and 30 minutes later -- showing over 50.
So, I would test at +4.75 and feed LC (provided that the number is staying above 70). Then test at +5, and if it's above 70, feed LC. Finally, test at +5.25, and if it's over 50, you can start to test every hour.
Does this make sense?
You are doing great! PurrFace is in a very, very safe range for BG as long as you can stay with him in case his BG starts to drop again.
There are two different issues: 1. When to discontinue HC and 2. When to stop testing so often and test only once every hour.
You can discontinue using HC and use LC instead after you get a number above 70. Unless the number drops down again below 70 (or maybe even lower? Anyone?) you can use LC for the 1 tsp feedings.
You can stop testing every 15 to 20 minutes and start testing every hour when you have 1) not fed HC for at least one hour AND 2)You see a test at that time showing a BG over 50; AND 3) you see 2 more tests -- 15 minutes and 30 minutes later -- showing over 50.
So, I would test at +4.75 and feed LC (provided that the number is staying above 70). Then test at +5, and if it's above 70, feed LC. Finally, test at +5.25, and if it's over 50, you can start to test every hour.
Does this make sense?
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 Fed 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
101 +3.75 1 tsp LC
97 +4.25 1 tsp HC
98 +4.75 1 tsp LC
96 AMPS
Ate +1 (Fancy Feast Classic Low Carb)
39 +2 Fed honey and High Carb Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers .75 oz (1 and 1/2 U.S. tablespoons)
44 +2.25
63 +2.5 (Good!)
54 +2.75 Fed 1 teaspoon HC and 2 drops of honey
58 +3 Fed 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
64 +3.25 1 tsp HC with one drop of honey
101 +3.75 1 tsp LC
97 +4.25 1 tsp HC
98 +4.75 1 tsp LC
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98
Dale. Yes it makes a bit more sense but I have one question.
Please do misunderstand me, I'm in no way questioning your suggestion I'm just trying to get a bit better understanding of this now that my blood pressure is down and my nerves have settled a bit.
Dale. Yes it makes a bit more sense but I have one question.
Why go back to the 15 minute test if he is above 70? Wouldn't it give us a better idea of how he is doing if we stayed at the 30 minute intervals (provided he is above 70) and on a spoonful of LC?
Please do misunderstand me, I'm in no way questioning your suggestion I'm just trying to get a bit better understanding of this now that my blood pressure is down and my nerves have settled a bit.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98
I'm going to put my toddler down for her nap right now. You should be fine if you keep feeding LC, but if you need help post HELP in your subject line (you have to go the very first post you posted for this thread and edit the subject line to do this. If you simply put it in the subject line of one of your subsequent posts, it will not show up on the board.) I'll be back in about 30 minutes, I hope.
I'm going to put my toddler down for her nap right now. You should be fine if you keep feeding LC, but if you need help post HELP in your subject line (you have to go the very first post you posted for this thread and edit the subject line to do this. If you simply put it in the subject line of one of your subsequent posts, it will not show up on the board.) I'll be back in about 30 minutes, I hope.
max&emmasmommie
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98
Frosty wrote:
That's fine, too. I was just giving you an example to follow as I know your nerves are frayed. I'm not concerned about you not getting a test for 1/2 an hour at this point. Half hour test will do the same thing for you. You are handling this well, even if it feels scary!
Frosty wrote:
That's fine, too. I was just giving you an example to follow as I know your nerves are frayed. I'm not concerned about you not getting a test for 1/2 an hour at this point. Half hour test will do the same thing for you. You are handling this well, even if it feels scary!
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98
Thank you Dale. You, Sienne, Dyana and everyone else that has been following in the background like Ann, Ecurie and Karen have been so helpful it's hard to put into words. This has been quite a ride and I am so lucky to have all of you there to help.
Thank you Dale. You, Sienne, Dyana and everyone else that has been following in the background like Ann, Ecurie and Karen have been so helpful it's hard to put into words. This has been quite a ride and I am so lucky to have all of you there to help.
Dyana
Member Since 2009
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3/58 +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98
I think, since he's staying in the higher numbers hovering around 100, that you can test again at +5.5. And, I would try to go without feeding him until the next test (unless he starts begging for food, then feed him), just to see if he's surfing along nicely without the help of the food. If he is staying nicely in these numbers, then switch to 1 hour tests.
I'm off to do some last minute shopping before hunkering down to await the storm. J.D. just tested a 98 too, but he hasn't had food for hours and is definitely rising, and it's past his nadir.
I think you're doing fine. I'll check in with you when I get back from the crazy grocery store.
I think, since he's staying in the higher numbers hovering around 100, that you can test again at +5.5. And, I would try to go without feeding him until the next test (unless he starts begging for food, then feed him), just to see if he's surfing along nicely without the help of the food. If he is staying nicely in these numbers, then switch to 1 hour tests.
I'm off to do some last minute shopping before hunkering down to await the storm. J.D. just tested a 98 too, but he hasn't had food for hours and is definitely rising, and it's past his nadir.
I think you're doing fine. I'll check in with you when I get back from the crazy grocery store.
Frosty
Member Since 2012
Re: 10/28 PurrFace +3.25/64 +3.5/101 +4.25/97 +4.75/98 +5.25
We tested again at +5.25 before we read your post, Dyana, and fed him a spoonful of LC. Since he last got HC was at his +4.25/97 reading and then LC at his +4.75/98 reading I'm counting his test at the +5.25/81 as the first test after the effects of the HC as Sienne told me. HE got a spoonful of LC at his +5.25/81 so if his number is above 70 at his +5.75 test we will hold food and test again in an hour. If he is still above 70 at that point can we give him a bit more food then if he wants it?
I hope all of this makes sense.
Edited: I really hope you get through the storm without any problems. We will have you and all of those in Sandy's path in our thoughts and prayers. Stay safe.
We tested again at +5.25 before we read your post, Dyana, and fed him a spoonful of LC. Since he last got HC was at his +4.25/97 reading and then LC at his +4.75/98 reading I'm counting his test at the +5.25/81 as the first test after the effects of the HC as Sienne told me. HE got a spoonful of LC at his +5.25/81 so if his number is above 70 at his +5.75 test we will hold food and test again in an hour. If he is still above 70 at that point can we give him a bit more food then if he wants it?
I hope all of this makes sense.
Edited: I really hope you get through the storm without any problems. We will have you and all of those in Sandy's path in our thoughts and prayers. Stay safe.
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