10/24 China PMPS 125,+3 59,+5 68,+7 62,+8.5 82

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Chris & China (GA)

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It's been another fine day for Miss China....can't say how much happier I am now that her numbers are back to making some sense (most of the time anyway). Was so crazy for about 6 weeks in mid-August/September when her numbers all the sudden were kind of all over the place, but she's back where she belongs! (anti jinx anti jinx)

China baby...please don't feel like you have to "shake things up" ever again!! It's too hard on your mamabean!

Finally got the trip nailed down for DM to go to Branson....December 3rd though 6th...Hotel takes pets, offers a free hot breakfast (not just cereal and toast) and has free Wi-Fi...and each room comes with a mini refrigerator and microwave....Not bad for $59/night!

Now I just need to convince China that riding in the car really isn't the end of the world....Kind of nervous about how she'll do once we're down there....when she was in a hotel for the week during DM's bypass surgery, her numbers were GREAT...even a little too low at times. With us being gone out to shows so much of the time, I may decide to go with a lighter dose while we're there...guess I'll just have to see what kind of numbers she gets once we're there and figure it out then!

Hope you're all having a fabulous Friday! It's absolutely gorgeous here....mid 70's, light breezes and blue skies!

GO ROYALS!!
 
Re: 10/24 China AMPS 115,+2 137,+4 58,+6 62,+8 98

we're in the midst of monsoon season! :lol:

great price for a hotel room! have you tried Rescue Remedy with China for traveling?
 
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Not yet Julia, but it's one of the things I'm considering

That's the one you just put in their water, right?

Isn't there also something you can spray in the inside of the carrier? Or is that the same stuff?

She's also always had a problem with carsickness, so I'm wondering if it'd help to give her some ondansetron before traveling?

Yeah, I can't complain at all about the price, and since we've stayed at this hotel before, I know that the rooms are nice sized, clean and that the front office is good about helping if you need anything.
 
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Great numbers for China today. I'm glad you got things worked out for the trip. That does sound like a good deal. Maybe you should try taking China on some short trips to get her used to traveling.
 
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Thanks Carla...I've been thinking about that too

Sure would be a lot easier if she was a dog...We used to take our dogs out for ice cream to get them over being afraid to ride in the car, but that's out for most cats...and especially sugarcats!

Wonder how she'd feel about no sugar/no fat/no dairy frozen yogurt? (if there is such a thing)....maybe a nice sorbet???....LOL

It's about a 3 hour drive ...if it weren't quite so long, I'd probably have her go on an empty stomach too (to limit how much she could throw up) but I don't think that's going to work. Would have to not let her have any food for several hours before we left, and then no food until we arrived, so that could be about 6 hours with no food

Not sure what might work better for the carsickness either...the ondansetron or maybe cerenia? Don't know enough about them to know which one might work better for carsick kitties. Hopefully once we're done with this trip, I'll have a lot more answers because in January, she's going to have to go "somewhere" while I'm in the Bahamas for a week, so I'm looking for a petsitter (I wish I could get Tricia & Cinco's!)
 
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I just remembered I saved this from when Lisa used to travel with Leo all of the time. I don't know if you've seen it before.

Traveling with Diabetic Kitties

Before the first trip

Test out any new items such as kitty calming aids and harnesses before the actual trip so you know how Kitty will act, and adjust if necessary.

Harness and leash
• Let Kitty wander around the house and make size adjustments as needed. This will also allow Kitty to get used to this terrible horrid thing. Play with Kitty so fun is associated with the harness.

Pee pads
• Put one near the litter box so Kitty associates the appearance and smell with pees and poops. Scented and unscented are available. Unscented may be a better choice, especially if you use unscented litter at home.

Restraint system
• In some states, animals must be strapped into a carrier or wear a seat belt. If you plan to use a hard carrier (especially when traveling alone) strap the carrier to the seat with the belt by wrapping the belt around the front of the carrier so it acts like a “lap” band. Test this out first. If you’d like the carrier to sit flat on the seat, you may need to prop up the back end of the carrier with a towel. Turning the carrier to face you (or the driver) may help with anxiety.

Identification
• Consider highly having your cat micro-shipped before you go, especially for frequent travel or airline travel.
• Put your cell phone number on Kitty’s tag, and note Kitty is insulin dependent if this is relevant. Consider adding more than 1 bell to Kitty’s collar. Cats hiding in unfamiliar places can be hard to find, and that extra tinkling can really help.

Vet services, emergency and otherwise
• Find and print out locations to the nearest vet and 24 hour emergency animal facilities in the areas you're traveling through and to. Program the numbers into your cell phone and into your GPS. In case of emergency, especially at night, these become vital if you’re stressed and don't know the area.

Kitty stress and anxiety
• Several options are available to help Kitty’s stress level during car rides, including medications and familiar smells. Some cats travel just fine after the first hour or so. Others will wail loudly, as if tortured, the entire trip.
• Meds can reduce the anxiety of the trip. Homeopathic aids such as Rescue Remedy has been suggested by several people. It is placed on or in the cat. The human versions contain alcohol, a pet version is available without alcohol. It can be put in food, although several people report putting a dab on paws, ears, or tapped on the fur where it will be licked off. FemiAway and other hormone-based products are also available. These are applied in areas where kitty may be stressed, such as in the carrier. These are not made to be sprayed onto the cat.
• Prescription sedatives should be considered with caution. Some airlines may refuse to ship a pet who has been sedated, especially if the pet will be shipped in the cargo cabin and not under the passenger’s seat.
• Bring towels or blankets with familiar smells for Kitty, or a favorite sleeping bed.
• Bring an extra towel or carrier blanket if Kitty decides to urf his last meal in the carrier.
• Place a towel or light blanket over the carrier to block out light and sound on the sides, or all over. This may calm Kitty, especially during the start of the trip.
• Changes in environment may help. Radio on, radio off, heat higher, heat lower, talking to Kitty, ignoring kitty.

Kitty car sickness and litter box issues
• Line the area around the litter box with pee pads or newspapers, and throw away the layers that get soiled as the accidents occur.
• Place a pee pad inside the carrier.
• Anti nausea meds are available, but try before traveling. For airline trips, a sedative may be useful if kitty is a bad (or unknown) traveler.

What to pack
• Small cooler for food and insulin.
• Cat dishes, water bowl, spoon and fork.
• Water
• Food of all carb levels (high carb, medium carb, low carb). Keep close at hand.
• Karo
• Glucose meter and backup
• Strips (many, especially if you are traveling to an area that may not stock “your” brand)
• Insulin
• Lancets
• Syringes
• Tissues/wipes for ear sticks
• Ketone test strips
• Treats for testing
• Ear warming device. If you warm Kitty’s ear or paw pad, place the sock in ziplock and run it under hot water at the rest stop. If your car has heated seats, turn on the heater and sit on the sock. Natural hand warmers are an option to heat up the sock. These contain a mixture of iron powder, charcoal and other ingredients, and produce heat when exposed to air. (These are great for placing in gloves and boots for outdoor activities.)
• Notebook and pen for recording glucose test values
• Clean-up wipes and paper towels
• Petzyme or similar urine/blood/vomit removal spray
• Towels, blankets and beds with familiar smells
• Meds (appetite stimulants, anti-nausea, calming, etc.
• Toys
• Garbage bags
• Litter box and scoop (or disposable box)
• Ziploc bags (open food cans, dirty utensils, temporary Sharps container, etc.) You can never have too many Ziplocs!
• Cat carrier
• Collar, harness and leash
• Litter box and litter for destination
• Most importantly, Kitty!

How to Pack
• Create a box or small milk crate that contains everything you might need in emergency and sort-of emergency situations. It should contain samples of all carb foods and Karo, spoon and fork, wipes, treats, garbage bags and paper towels. It should also contain your testing equipment and somewhere to toss the used strips and lancets.

During the trip

Harness and leash
• Kitty should be on a harness the entire trip, and perhaps on the leash whenever out of the carrier. Especially if you don’t know how well he will travel.

Rest stops
• Include frequent rest breaks and allow kitty to wander around in the car, use the litter box, and eat/drink. KEEP ALL WINDOWS COMPLETELY SHUT. Cats can pass through imaginably tight places. Especially freaked-out ones.

• Offer food, water and little box, although Kitty may not be interested. Praise for good litter box behavior but don’t punish for peeing outside the lines. It can be stressful enough for a poor kitty!

• Don’t leave kitty unattended to make your own litter box stop! Not only is it illegal in many places, it’s potentially deadly, even for just a few minutes. Plan your fluid intakes accordingly if you are traveling alone. Or, handicapped stalls are great for accommodating kitty carriers.

Environment
• Some Kitties love lounging the the sun, others prefer cooler “cave-like” conditions. Bring a towel or blanket large enough to cover the entire carrier to control the shade and temperature of the carrier. Even sun worshipper Kitties may get overheated trapped in a sunny car seat.
 
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Yeah for China - the normal version. Good score on the hotel rate too!

You can put a drop or two of Rescue Remedy on their food - I've heard of some putting it on the paw. Make sure you get the version for Pets - no alcohol in it. Feliway can be sprayed inside the carrier. We did both when Neko did her bit adventure travel down to Fort Collins. I believe Cerenia is better if you are going to medicate, as it prevents vomiting - if China is prone to that. Might want to test drive her on the cerenia before traveling.
 
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i think the idea of putting it on the paw is that they'll lick it off. you'd want to try the RR in advance. i tried progressively larger amounts with punkin (he weighed 13ish lbs) and the smaller amounts did nothing. I gave him a full dropper of the RR when we traveled at first. Eventually he got used to it -he never got sick, just didn't like it. Anya is a tiny female, maybe 8lbs or so, and she gets one drop in a bite of food before we go anywhere. It makes her sleep. Both of them spent most of the trip to Colorado under the driver's seat. They couldn't get out the front of the seat, so it worked fine.

Feliway didn't seem to help us, but i did buy a spray bottle and spray the inside of the car before we traveled. Maybe it did more than i thought.
 
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions today Carla and Julie!

That list will be VERY helpful and I'm going to start on gathering things together sooner rather than later so I don't forget anything.

I'll start taking China on short little rides through town, like when I take DM to get her hair done tomorrow maybe. Drive over, pick DM up, drop DM off at the salon and then take China home....I think that would be a good start for getting her accustomed to riding in the car.

Ordered some Rescue Remedy and Feliway spray but they won't be here until next week, but that gives me plenty of time to experiment and see how they work for China

I was happy to see that 82..at least she's headed in the right direction again!
 
Rescue remedy and Feliway spray didn't help with any of my cats, but I know several people here say it does with theirs. ECID!

Cerenia's main use is to prevent motion sickness in animals, so I'd go with Cerenia. It works for Sasha, but I have to give it two hours before traveling and not feed her.

I used to take a litter box, food and water and make them available during a car trip, but none of my cats have ever used any of them. Now I just put a couple of pee pads over the cushion in the carrier (which they usually wad up in the back) and carry a supply of extras, plus paper towels, moist kitty wipes and plastic bags (to put soiled pee pads, etc. in).

I'm glad you got the hotel you wanted. I'm sure you and your DM will have a wonderful time.

I'm very jealous of China's cycles. Cinco was right there with her today - but then I carbed the heck out of him so I could leave. Of course, it doesn't seem to have really changed anything tonight - he's surfing yellow just as he has the past two nights. :roll:

I'm not into baseball, but I can't stand the Giants, so GO ROYALS!
 
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