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? 10/2 Pudge I'm struggling to get his numbers up..

Bandit's Mom said:
Hi, I'm around and I'll stay with you. You're doing great! :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:

I see he is over 50 thus far? What are you feeding him?
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TYSM....... its been so scary. idk what to do.. he seems to be going up; but my strips ran out and all I have are ones that seemed to measure too high.. just been giving him more and more syrup w food.. we have to do food w syrup.. food sensitive..
 
kitten68 said:
TYSM....... its been so scary. idk what to do.. he seems to be going up; but my strips ran out and all I have are ones that seemed to measure too high.. just been giving him more and more syrup w food.. we have to do food w syrup.. food sensitive..
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What do you mean you have strips that measure too high? What numbers are they giving you?

How long is it now since the shot?
 
Bandit's Mom said:
What do you mean you have strips that measure too high? What numbers are they giving you?

How long is it now since the shot?
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sorry.. was trying to update sheet for you (and me..)

yeah! I noticed the strips some of the lots I got were higher than seemed like it.. like, weird. I tested w some others and the numbers were lower; idk.. (I called to complain but they needed some stuff I didn't have at the time.. haven't had a chance to get back..) it's all I got.. using one of the better ones.. for example.. At +3.25 it was 50.. tested w one of the weird ones, was 59.. that's a big difference. :( or maybe these read lower.. idk. but that's all I got now.. I wanted to go out to get more cuz I saw was low.. and it poured out. I thought it'd be ok. of course not.. ha. this was wild.. I don't understand things anymore honestly. a lot changed.. I really hope he'll be ok. I had to syrup w a lot...... :/
 
50-59 is not a major difference. There can be a 15-20% meter variance. I know that's quite high. Even from the same drop of blood you could get different readings!

I see he is 77 now. How long since the last time he had high carbs/syrup?

I think you can stop feeding him syrup/HC now.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
50-59 is not a major difference. There can be a 15-20% meter variance. I know that's quite high. Even from the same drop of blood you could get different readings!

I see he is 77 now. How long since the last time he had high carbs/syrup?

I think you can stop feeding him syrup/HC now.
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but like w lower numbers that kinda is? that always did bother me.. cuz that's more or less 60.. and 50.. right, haha.. but yeah.. for us, 50s are action numbers.. (I accidentally let it go one time.. and he required a lot of syrup then too; not too much lower than today.. I avoid it..)

and think so??? relieved to hear it.. I also hope his stomach isn't too upset later.. :( :( :( honestly he's full.. doesn't really want it.. so was gonna try some LC.. around now..
 
Bandit's Mom said:
50-59 is not a major difference. There can be a 15-20% meter variance. I know that's quite high. Even from the same drop of blood you could get different readings!

I see he is 77 now. How long since the last time he had high carbs/syrup?

I think you can stop feeding him syrup/HC now.
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ty for being w me.... I was scared we'd have to go somewhere... this is all crazy. :( a lot happened this year numbers got messed up.. and now that his pressure is better, so are the numbers.. its just ugh.
 
Lower numbers can be scary, but if you're able to test and feed, it's usually not a problem requiring medical intervention. Especially where you are dealing with just low number and not a symptomatic hypoglycemic episode.

Just go easy on the syrup. It's OK if he doesn't want to eat now. You have some buffer - numbers are comfortably higher and it's also later in the cycle. Let's see where he is at +5?

ETA: Please take off the 911 now? Thanks! :)
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Lower numbers can be scary, but if you're able to test and feed, it's usually not a problem requiring medical intervention. Especially where you are dealing with just low number and not a symptomatic hypoglycemic episode.

Just go easy on the syrup. It's OK if he doesn't want to eat now. You have some buffer - numbers are comfortably higher and it's also later in the cycle. Let's see where he is at +5?

ETA: Please take off the 911 now? Thanks! :)
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...thats comforting to hear. I couldn't get him so I used a lot. I tried small then saw it wasn't coming up.. and we used to be able to bring him up w a lot less.. and within a few tests.. this was frightening.. thank u again for being w me. I'll be honest this feels like a hell sometimes.. this requires so much work and vigilance. he can die. 💔

he's not feeling too good now I don't think.. I just hope he'll feel all right soon.. took a +4.5.. he's 80.. he didn't want a LC snack.. that ok? gonna try for 30 min later from last snack.. (+4.25..)
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Lower numbers can be scary, but if you're able to test and feed, it's usually not a problem requiring medical intervention. Especially where you are dealing with just low number and not a symptomatic hypoglycemic episode.

Just go easy on the syrup. It's OK if he doesn't want to eat now. You have some buffer - numbers are comfortably higher and it's also later in the cycle. Let's see where he is at +5?

ETA: Please take off the 911 now? Thanks! :)
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it's also just me and him here.. just us. so that's hard too. not much help. doing best.. idk what. 🥺

he ate a little for me. but he's upset.. this was rough. thank you again.. ❤️‍🩹 will test +5 for sure.. (that's first 30..)
 
kitten68 said:
he's not feeling too good now I don't think.. I just hope he'll feel all right soon..
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Why do you say that? From all the food/syrup?

I see he's at 97 at +5. That's quite a bit up.
How long since the last HC meal/syrup? You want to make sure he doesn't drop 2 hours after that when the carbs wear off.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Why do you say that? From all the food/syrup?

I see he's at 97 at +5. That's quite a bit up.
How long since the last HC meal/syrup? You want to make sure he doesn't drop 2 hours after that when the carbs wear off.
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yeah.. or maybe from just being low. idk. :( tested him just now.. meant to at +30 (+5.5).. but was more like +45 (+5.75).. he's 110 (off these strips..) it's been.. how long since last carbed food? +4.25.. so about.. 1.5 hours?.. I do the whole thing.. checking every 30 the 1st hour then on the last hour after that.. ? will then check again at +6.5/6.75.. (?)

also I realize I may have been overfeeding.. I read somewhere it was 2 tsp carbed food.. but it's 1 tsp..... each time (when dealing w lower numbers).. sigh.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Why do you say that? From all the food/syrup?

I see he's at 97 at +5. That's quite a bit up.
How long since the last HC meal/syrup? You want to make sure he doesn't drop 2 hours after that when the carbs wear off.
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Is it ok what I'm doing?? so far numbers always been up or stable this way.. I follow what it says on the stickie. I also tend to give an extra carbed snack even tho up for good measure..
 
I think he's high enough and it's late enough in the cycle that you can take a break from tests and call it a night.

Considering how much you had to pump him up with carbs to keep him over 50 tonight, you might want to take a reduction. You could try 5U from tomorrow.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
I think he's high enough and it's late enough in the cycle that you can take a break from tests and call it a night.

Considering how much you had to pump him up with carbs to keep him over 50 tonight, you might want to take a reduction. You could try 5U from tomorrow.
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really??? that sounds nice.. are you sure??? I might anyway.. but will think about it. thanks for saying so.. it was almost +6 the last one.. idk. 🥺

and ohohohooho... yes. tysm for agreeing and bringing up.. I was most definitely going to do this; going down to 5 U tmw... thanks for saying. ❤️‍🩹 yes.. this was really a fight.

(I'll be honest.. doing TR has been terrifying a number of times to the point, with everything we've had to deal with this past year, I'm this close to just going back to SLGS..... (which can have healing too, and you reduce at higher..) but TR is the better shot at healing and more quickly right? he also feels his best at green numbers, lower blues...... sigh.)
 
kitten68 said:
really??? that sounds nice.. are you sure??? I might anyway.. but will think about it. thanks for saying so.. it was almost +6 the last one.. idk. 🥺
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If in doubt, get another test since you are up anyway! :-) That will be 2 hours since he last ate HC.

kitten68 said:
but TR is the better shot at healing and more quickly right? he also feels his best at green numbers, lower blues...... sigh.)
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Yes, they do like being in / close to normal numbers! Since you are testing so much anyway, you might as well "get more bang for your buck" by following TR. It does help a cat spend more time in normal numbers which are healing.
 
I wasn't awake when you were needing help. Bhooma, Bron, and often Wendy are some of our members who "work the night shift."

Just a reminder and hopefully this will put your mind at ease. Pudge was diagnosed more that a year ago. With TR, the reduction point after the first year is below 40. Granted, you were steering Pudge's numbers with high carb, but even with all of that, I didn't see any numbers that made me nervous.

You did a great job of steering the cycle. It may be that Pudge was giving you a hard time because he's liking those greens!!!
 
I’m sorry you had such a hard night with Pudge 😞
You did great taking such good care of your boy.
So glad Bhooma was around to help you.

Good luck with the reduction and wishing you safe surfing🌊 (the depot may still have extra oomph before it depletes).
🥰❤️‍🩹
 
Bandit's Mom said:
If in doubt, get another test since you are up anyway! :-) That will be 2 hours since he last ate HC.


Yes, they do like being in / close to normal numbers! Since you are testing so much anyway, you might as well "get more bang for your buck" by following TR. It does help a cat spend more time in normal numbers which are healing.
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was 116 🫶🏼.. went right to bed haha..

right.. ugh. ❤️‍🩹
 
Sienne and Gabby (GA) said:
I wasn't awake when you were needing help. Bhooma, Bron, and often Wendy are some of our members who "work the night shift."

Just a reminder and hopefully this will put your mind at ease. Pudge was diagnosed more that a year ago. With TR, the reduction point after the first year is below 40. Granted, you were steering Pudge's numbers with high carb, but even with all of that, I didn't see any numbers that made me nervous.

You did a great job of steering the cycle. It may be that Pudge was giving you a hard time because he's liking those greens!!!
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tysm for saying.. but it was really scary. ive always been able to get him up.. 😕
 
Staci & Ivy said:
I’m sorry you had such a hard night with Pudge 😞
You did great taking such good care of your boy.
So glad Bhooma was around to help you.

Good luck with the reduction and wishing you safe surfing🌊 (the depot may still have extra oomph before it depletes).
🥰❤️‍🩹
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oh man me too.. 🫶🏼💖 i was really scared this time. 😕 Im not doing too good honestly haha.. but trying here (not much sleep..) thanks for saying.. we tried hard. terrible..

tysm!!!! 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼❤️‍🩹💖❤️‍🩹💖❤️‍🩹
 
Mary & Jude said:
Those lows can really be so scary and stressful :nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting:, especially in the middle of the night when it seems you are alone. I'm so glad @Bandit's Mom was able to help; she has held my hand and walked me through a few scary nights with Jude! The two of you did a great job getting Pudge where he needed to be.

Good luck with the reduction!☘️
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its horrid!!! 😫.. first time ive really struggled hard to get him up.. just me and him. very scary. so glad for @Bandit's Mom honestly.. (thank you…. 💖🫶🏼)

ty ty.. tough. 🫶🏼😕

and ty!!!! 💖💖💖🫠🥰
 
I was in bed when you tagged me, with my alarm set for 4:30 AM. I'm glad Bhooma was around to help.

Like Sienne, I don't see any really concerning numbers last night. He spend some nice time in healing greens. One note about last night, it typically takes 20-30 minutes for carbs to go from the plate to the blood stream. I see you were testing every 15 minutes at times, at which point you might not have waited long enough for the carbs to hit his BG numbers. That would make you more worried his numbers weren't moving, but all you needed was to wait a little longer before testing again.
 
💘.. the thing w the numbers is that he was those numbers at +2 (from 103 ~).... if I hadn't broke things, or tried bringing him up, there were 4 hours or more of lowering.. we also got a reading of 49.. (understand its different after a year..) and we've never had to take so long to bring him up, or use as much syrup before.. was scary. but got through..
 
Wendy&Neko said:
I was in bed when you tagged me, with my alarm set for 4:30 AM. I'm glad Bhooma was around to help.

Like Sienne, I don't see any really concerning numbers last night. He spend some nice time in healing greens. One note about last night, it typically takes 20-30 minutes for carbs to go from the plate to the blood stream. I see you were testing every 15 minutes at times, at which point you might not have waited long enough for the carbs to hit his BG numbers. That would make you more worried his numbers weren't moving, but all you needed was to wait a little longer before testing again.
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thanks.. us very much as well.

and yes.. cuz I follow the stickie; the stickie SAYS every 15-20 min. 😕 wait longer?... (I also realize he might be getting snacks too big; 1 tsp is suggested.. I thought it was 2 tsp.. sigh).. do like around 20 then?..
 
Keep in mind that with the stickies and everything else that relates to your kitty, ECID (every cat is different). I'd also add that any situation can be one where your cat throws you a curve. I often mention that Gabby's nadir was at around +3, except those times when it wasn't. And there were times when I was testing every 15 min because she liked to drop like a rock into low numbers.

You made really good observations about how Pudge normally responds. Base your decisions on what you know from Pudge's history but keep in mind that cats hate to be predictable.
 
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