10/17/2010 Spitzer PMPS = 55, +10 = 366

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BJM

BJM

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Yesterday: http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27554

Fall out & regroup.
No insulin yesterday, per vet's instructions, so glucose high this am.

AMPS of 292 @ 9:30; Vet wants 2 units for 10 days
The start low, go slow folks recommend 1 unit
I'm splitting the difference at 1.5 and will monitor throughout the day.

His poor ear - I kind of mangled 1 of the sticks yesterday; he is such a good natured boy that he still snuggled this morning.

all 5 Ps were in place yesterday & so far today
 
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Glad you will able to monitor him throughout the day. If you have plain neosporin, you can put a dab on his ears and that might help.
Here is the link to yesterday's condo: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27554
We link each day's post to the previous one so it is easy to click and see what transpired the day before....
For the header, we put: Date. Kitty's Name, AMPS=_____ and then you may add +1. +3 whatever the hour for the new BGs during the day. Any questions you might have may be posted in this condo today.

How is Spitzer today?

You are welcome to visit other condos here in LL and see what is going on with other kitties. We believe that our kitties are more than just their BG numbers, so we keep an eye out for the 5 Ps for our WCR (Whole Cat Report)
P=Purring
P=Pooping
P=Peeing
P=Preening
P=Playing
You may see something written like: All Ps in place today, 2 Ps present so far...and that's what that is all about.
So, how is Spitzer doing today? :mrgreen:
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292

Edited 1st post as recommended.

what is a "condo" ? Wasn't in the definitions list on the main board.
 
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Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292, +4 = 89

+4 He's down to 89
 
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Did you feed him to slow the drop? 89 is a nice healing number tho. Some food might help him surf.
 
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He was napping when I picked him up to blood test.

Immediately afterward, he had nosh on the food which was out.

And right now, he is playing with some of the other cats - burbles and scrabbling of cardboard is occuring.
 
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Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292; +4 = 89; +7 = 43; PMPS =

PMPS = 55

Nudged the insulin down to roughly 1.25 because he was so low today.

I put out fresh canned food and he scarfed (he was waiting for the new stuff, although there was some still out from this afternoon)
 
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Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292; +4 = 89; +7 = 43; PMPS =

That's a VERY low number to be shooting without data. Please get a +1 and +2 at least.
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292; +4 = 89; +7 = 43; PMPS =

I have to agree with Laurie. You really don't have the data to be shooting this low. In addition, the 43 at +7 earned Spitzer a dose reduction.

You will need to get a +1, possibly a +1.5, and a +2. Unless numbers bounce, you may need to be up for quite a while monitoring. Do you have an abundance of strips and high carb food in the house?
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292; +4 = 89; +7 = 43; PMPS =

Still have beaucoup dry of moderate carb level; some A/D too.
Still lots of strips to test; at the rate I'm going, I'll need to pick up more this week.

I'll check him - but I've noticed he does eat and stay on top of it - even the week I was following the vets 3 unit dose 2/day and backing off the dry AND didn't have a glucometer yet.

Gave him about an ounce of dry Taste of the Wild dry, which he scarfed.
 
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Dry food will spike his numbers up, but it takes too long to get into his system. Is it Hills A/D? If so, that's only 13% carb. You want something higher than 18% with gravy.

I wouldn't give him a ton of food, the odds are that if he doesn't bounce, you're going to have to keep feeding him small amounts of HC food for several hours to keep him from hypo. If you allow him to eat a lot of lower carb food, he will get full and you won't be able to get him to eat to prevent the hypo.

Sienne is right, I would check every 1/2 hour, starting now.
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292; +4 = 89; +7 = 43; PMPS =

If you don't have HC food in the house, you can mix a few drops of syrup (Karo, honey, maple syrup, etc.) into LC or MC food. It will do fine until you have a chance to get HC food. A/D isn't great because it doesn't have gravy. We use the gravy type of HC foods since it's harder for a kitty to fill up on the gravy than on a HC pate (or other style) of food.
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer AMPS = 292; +4 = 89; +7 = 43; PMPS =

BJM said:
Still have beaucoup dry of moderate carb level; some A/D too. I think I'll break out some AD for him.
Still lots of strips to test; at the rate I'm going, I'll need to pick up more this week.

I'll check him - but I've noticed he does eat and stay on top of it - even the week I was following the vets 3 unit dose 2/day and backing off the dry AND didn't have a glucometer yet.
Click to expand...

I know you and Spitzer are getting great advice, but I just wanted to mention... My Kitty was getting dosed too high by his first vet after diagnosis. I'm sure Spitzer can muddle through. But the sooner he gets to the right dose, the better his pancreas will adjust.

You're getting great advice on feeding the low numbers from Laurie and Sienne!
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer PMPS = 55; +1 = 60

pm +1 @ 60

he ate canned food in addition to the dry I just gave him.

I do have some Karo syrup.

I'll be up for a while & will keep monitoring.
 
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A favor --

If you can edit the subject line of your first post as you get numbers it will allow us to see how Spitzer is doing. The only subject line that is visible on the Board is the one from your first condo. (When you need help/have a question, you need to edit that subject line and then add a new post in order to bump your condo up to the top of the Board.)
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer PMPS = 55, +2 = 58

pm +2 = 58

gave him some more dry food w/ carbs, which he scarfed.
 
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If you can feed canned, you will have less of a headache tomorrow. The dry stuff takes a long, long time to work it's way out of the system. We use the canned and/or Karo because it's in and out much more quickly. You'll see an effect of HC canned in about 20 min. You're not seeing any impact of HC dry yet. If you look at Gabby's SS, she hit a 34 about 30 min. ago. A bite of LC plus gravy plus a drop or two of Karo and she's now at 79.
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer PMPS = 55, +2 = 58

Just so you know, dry food takes hours to work. Muffin only recently relented to eating canned food, and when she was on dry, I had pretty much NO ability to manipulate her numbers. If you can feed canned food, that would be better.

Sienne and I were typing at the same time - and saying basically the same thing :lol:
 
Re: 10/17/2010 Spitzer PMPS = 55, +2 = 58

There is canned food out for him to eat, too.
 
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The dry food to prevent major hypo caught up to him this am.
+10 = 366

Will try lower Lantus today, since I won't be home to monitor (work).
 
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