1/30 Tabitha PMPS 105 ; +1.5 90; +3 45; +4 58; +5 100; +7 97. (newbie)

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Sharon&Tabitha (TX)

Sharon&Tabitha (TX)

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Tabitha's AMPS was 215 but she is not interested in food. She was licking her lips. I got pills for nausea, antacid, and appetite stimulant. I can also syringe feed if need be. (What I really want to do is go back to sleep.) She is due for her shot now.
 
Was she eating okay, yesterday?
Did you give her the anti-nausea meds, what kind and how much?
If your shot schedule is flexible enough to be off by a half hour, how about taking away the food and testing again in 30 minutes and posting that number? I probably won't be online then, as I have to go to work, but maybe someone else will be here to help you decide. I hope she decides to eat her breakfast just fine.
 
I wouldn't give the appetite stimulant until the anti-nausea meds kick in. (Who wants to eat if they're nauseated?) Is this typical for Tabitha given that you have these meds on hand?
 
Meds for nausea - Ondansetron 4 mg tabs
Antacid - Famotidine 10 mg tabs
Appetite stimulant - Mirtazapine 15 mg tabs

She was eating great yesterday. She had a slow start on the insulin because I first switched her food over then she quit eating. (That was what we dealt with last week.) I already emailed work there was no way I could make it in today. So my schedule is flexible. That was before I knew Tabitha wasn't going to eat. I just can't think straight right now. More caffeine.:coffee:
 
She had some really nice numbers yesterday, and it looks like she's bouncing a bit. It would be nice if you could give her her insulin to combat that bounce. Hopefully, she'll start eating. I'm glad you got the meds and can syringe feed if needed.
I agree with Sienne, that the nausea needs to be addressed first with the Ondansetron.
 
Ok it looks like I got the Ondansetron in her. I notice I have only one left. Need to get more. I really need to get a shower to wake up. I'll be back.
 
She did have a lovely day yesterday!! I'm sorry, I don't know Tabitha's history...does she often stop eating, or is this something new for her? Hopefully the ondansetron will do the trick.
 
If you can monitor closely today I would think that you would want to still give her the shot. If you skip I think it could throw off the cycle.

Maybe you can try a food that you know she likes, or maybe a treat that she likes just to get her eating something. I know once you can get them started eating they typically continue.

We go through this with Sami also, she is a very picky eater. The last time we were on insulin I always kept a LARGE, and I do mean LARGE variety of food on hand just in case se decided she didn't like the current food any longer. I think I currently have at least 15 different foods that I can throw at her if she stops eating. I don't plan on using them unless she refuses to eat and I need her to eat specifically to bring up a LOW. But I have them at hand just in case.

I hope Tabitha starts eating for you. It can be very stressful.
 
Just got back from shower. It looks like she did eat almost half a can of FF. So I should give her .25 units? We are 1 hour behind schedule but I have the weekend to make it up. Does that sound ok?
 
Ok done; test in +2? I will add more detail to the SS once I get a breath. Last Friday test for pancreas was normal. Ketone was 1+. Still need to learn what causes going off food and the ketone.
 
The formula for ketones is infection + not enough food + not enough insulin. Has Tabitha had a urine sample taken to test for UTI? How are her teeth/gums? Those are the two common sources of infection.

Good news that she finally ate today.
 
UTI came back negative. One of the symptoms that finally got me to take Tabitha to the vet was she would grind her tooth when she ate her dry food. She would eat one kibble then drink water. Took her a long time. The initial exam didn't find anything other than the normal tarter. She no longer grinds her when she eats FF.
 
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+5 is 124

She is acting much better. She is grooming herself right now. This morning I was trying to put an elastic head band on while she was laying next to me and she wanted to play with it.
 
Are you giving a whole 4 mg tablet of ondansetron? . Remi usually has 1 mg so just a quarter twice a day.

It sounds like the switch in food might have made her feel ill? Does /could she have pancreatitis? Sorry probably missed if you said this.
 
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Sharon&Tabitha (TX) said:
Last Friday test for pancreas was normal; Ketones 1+.
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Since I reduced dose to .25; I can understand the #s are higher and I know ECID but in a perfect world what are we hoping/looking for?

I can't forget my non-sugar baby-Marcus
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I test more frequently in the 50's or 60's. I'd test in an hour, maybe 1/2 hour. If she's going below 50, you want to catch her just as she does than instead of letting her linger there.
 
Hi Sharon.

Do you typically feed as late as +9, or is this only today because she wasn't eating? Be aware, if this is not your usual way, that food at +9 can affect her PMPS.

Good job getting her eating today and watching her numbers. I hope she keeps eating for you!
 
Cute kitties :cat: welcome aboard.

The usual rule is not to feed after +10 and remove food at this time if free fed so that your preshot number isn't food influenced.

Lovely cycle from Tabitha:)
 
Is that 105 12 hours after her amps today, as I was reading back and saw you shot an hour late. I am replying also to bump up your post for any advisers out there. Im thinking you will be advised to shoot .25, but cant say for sure.
 
I shot at 7:15 this am I tested @6:30 to allow time to eat and shot at 7pm. I have not been with her for about 15 minutes so I'm not even sure if she has eaten
 
As long as you have plenty of supplies (strips, HC food and can stay up to test if necessary), it's probably best to shoot the same .25

You do want to make sure it's been 12 hours since this morning's shot and since she was kind of off her food earlier, it'd be best to make sure she's eating pretty normally tonight before shooting

We generally test/feed/shoot (in that order) to make sure our kitties are eating normally before shooting
 
As long as you have high carb food, plenty of strips and can monitor if needed - I'd give her the .25U.
 
This feels like a roller coaster ride and the numbers reflect the action of the cars. (Can you tell I'm just a little tired. I'm more of a morning person.) My last picture before the next test.
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How is she doing now? The 45 should get two tsp of HC and a drop of karo, syrup, or honey.

If she bounces, you can shoot through the bounce once with 0.25u and then decrease tomorrow night to 0.1u. I think with the way she's been going, I'd probably reduce to 0.1u in the morning.

While this might be depot from the 0.5u, I think I'd still try the reduction. I'll get you a picture for what 0.1u looks like.
 
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Once you feed her, pls retest 30 mins after she's done eating. If she's not coming up, give her two tsp of HC gravy (so she doesn't get full) and another drop of karo. Then retest 30 mins later. lather, rinse, repeat (feed, test, and do it again until she's up).

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Edited to add: if she won't eat, please rub karo on her gums, see if she will lick it off your finger, or give her a bit in a syringe. While 45 is safe, it's early in the cycle and we want to get her up.
 
I carried her back to her window box and her food. Her tail is whipping. She went to the other side of the window. I don't want to hover but I don't want to go back to the bed which is what she wants to do.
 
Just a couple drops. Plop them on a finger and put it in her mouth; it may be easier.
 
Sharon....breathe. When we are posting so quickly, we cross post so it's a good idea if you scroll back through and read the posts you might have missed.

Two tsp of HC food or gravy is 10 mls plus a drop of karo.
 
Very good. Do you think she would eat or you could syringe her a tsp (5mls) of LC food?

The.karo will wear off in 1-2 hours and her numbers might wobble or come back down so we want some LC food on board to help keep them more stable.
 
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