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Went smoothly. put the cat in carrier - vet- blood- home- out of carrier= total time 20 minutes
Tech was very good.Tubby was behaving himself.
At +4 I gave him some food. He was sleeping and when he got up I noticed he was drooling. I thought he might be hypo but while eating he went into Emergency Ear Hiding Mode, so he was just fine.[ Thought I could pull a fast one on him.]
We need 1/10 1cc syringes. From 0 to 1u is too fine. I can see a 30% error on daily injections. 1/3 syringes werent designed for shots near 0. imo
Think I might make two shots one for PM and one for next morning. Tough time being accurate at 4:45AM.
I am wasting more insulin adjusting the .5u than I'm putting into the cat.

Thinking I would go to the vet at a different time tomorrow. Should it be +6 or +8? :-D
Did that
 
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Mal and Tubby said:
Well no replies. guess I'll go with what I suggested +8
Bed time nighty night :-D

I would say +8 because that is closer to average nadir time on Levemir.

Do you have 3/10cc syringes? They hold 30 units of insulin and are the smallest available. You can get 1/2 unit markings from Hocks.com. These: http://hocks.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc ... e=syringes
are the ones I use. They have a mark between each whole unit mark, otherwise called half-unit markings. That would help you tremendously!

Click the link to Hocks which should be on this page somewhere (it seems to move around - right now on the post entry page it is right above the heading of this thread) and FDMB gets an 8% commission!
 
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+8 sounds good. I wish we knew where he was starting FROM though....

I use those same syringes that Vicky linked you to. Yeah, 1/10 cc syringes would be nice... dream on. But the 3/10 cc with half unit marking are pretty good. As you use them you get better at the finer adjustments, but you will be wasting more insulin to get the tiny doses. I had to draw to .5u and then drop back down to 0.05u for Beau - that's wasting .45u each time, but you do what you have to to get the right dose I guess.

Keep trying to t4st every couple of days and aways give him a treat regardless of success. Beau is one of kitties that purrs the whole time, but Jeddie I have to wrap in a blanket. The first times I was wearing gloves or I would have lost my hand I am sure. He still complains and wants to bolt, but I can do it with the blanket and making sure he knows who is boss - and talking to him and encouraging him the whole time telling him he is a good boy, etc.

Hopefully, you will get to an "agreement" with Tubby that he allows you to test him while telling you he really doesn't like it.
 
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I get my U-100 syringes at WalMart....100 ct for $13 ish

31 gauge, 8mm otherwise known as 3/10ml, 5/16" short needle with half unit markings.

These are comfortable for kitty and easier for beans to measure with.

I agree the +8 is a good choice, tomorrow maybe a +6 and so on...

You said the vet was using your meter and getting blood from ear- I was wondering what is it that the vet does with Tubby to get blood?

Is Tubby difficult to get insulin into as well?

Hang in there! :thumbup
 
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I have been using the 3/10 31ga short syringes from the start.
What the vets assistant does is provide another set of hands. He pokes the inner edge of the ear by holding the cats head with the ear folded back over one finger, then I come in with the meter. :smile:

Is Tubby difficult to get insulin into as well?
No he thinks he is being petted while he eats.
 
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I have been using the 3/10 31ga short syringes from the start.

so, then it sounds like wwhat you need are the half unit marking ones, right?


What the vets assistant does is provide another set of hands. He pokes the inner edge of the ear by holding the cats head with the ear folded back over one finger, then I come in with the meter.

hmmmm...I wonder if you can trade places with vet tech a few times just to get comfortable on the other side of this process.

Also- the technique I use on my own sounds similiar to what the two of you do together...I wonder if you could adopt it and use it yourself!?

after I gather my sugarpea, I get on my knees on the floor and stuff him between them with his head facing out, tuck his tail under him and gently moosh/guide him into a laying positon.

This way he is unable to move side to side.

I lean over top of him when I do the draw.

This way he is unable to jump up or sit up.

I am right handed, so I reach my left hand in front of him- mostly he tucks his head under and my hand is there to keep him from jutting forward.

I massage the ear from up to down and below to up basically visualizing where I am going ot poke and "pushing" blood to that spot. Ear is pink in about 4 or 5 rubs and ready to poke.

Another way is to press ear between index finger and thumb right around area to be poked.

When I am working with ear, the elbow of my left arm is holding PK's face/head from moving forward.

My strip is in my meter already and my poker is already clicked back but I can also click it back with my teeth so I don't have to move my left arm from PK's face.

At first when you are getting used to doing this, you may want to slip strip just short of inseeting so that when you are ready you can take a quick second to push it the rest of the way in.

I fold Paul's ear back as you guys do with Tubby and poke the inside just above the part that would be our lobe where we pierce for earings. If you look, there is a seperation there where our lobe would be and just above the seperation where the ear is meaty. The meaty part is where I poke.

I do not put anything behind Paul's ear at all...I just fold it back against his head using left pointer finger to hold in place, set lancet over area I want to poke and poke...he has never complained about this.

My lancet pen is set on fourth to deepest ( twist cap) and works well for us that way.

My suggestion os for you to practice all this positioning at home without any meter or lancet or pressure to get blood. This may help you relax and in turn, with Tubby feeding off your energy, Tubby may relax, too.

Practice being in charge, anticipate Tubby's movements and flinch an arm or finger or hand to counter the movement. At some point Tubby is going to realize that you are the bossbean and what you say goes. period.

After a few times of day finding your groove patterns sans equipment, get the meter/lancet/strips involved...practice clicking device in Tubby's ears without intention- just to get him used to the click...toss a treat down with each click sound.

I have never offered PK a treat with his pokes and whatnot, but many here do and it works very well....while you are practicing, toss in the treats so that when the real deal comes, Tubby is more focused on the treats than on being held in place.

Once you get really good at this, you should be able to tuck Tubby under you while he eats, fold the ear back, poke, read and shoot all at once before he knows whats up!

I think I missed it in the other thread- what meter are you using?

Have you had an opportunity to find a low carb wet food form janet&Binky
s food chart for Tubby?

How did Tubby get his name? Have you had him since a kitten? How old is he now?

Keep up the good work! :-D
 
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so, then it sounds like wwhat you need are the half unit marking ones, right?

I have the correct syringes with the 1/2 marks from the beginning.

Tubby was Mr. White . He was fat so I called him Tubby.
He was a rescue and runs from everybody even me[ when I'm standing].
He was about 8 years old when I got him from a shelter and in poor health. 5 years of prednesone. And has been on wet low carb since I got him.
Took him off drugs about 1 year ago.
I asked the shelter for a cat that was very hard to adopt . The geriatric ward was where he was.
 
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