1/15 Morgaine AMPS 148,+3 151,+6 168 spoke to vet

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Morgaine pee'd on the bed again this AM. She came into the bed for the usual good morning rub and purr and pee'd as I petted her, again looking me straight in the eyes. A call is in to the vet for some prozac. We shall see what she says about that. Meanwhile, I am containing myself and have not reacted. She is waiting for a reaction, I can tell.

Her BGs have been very good considering she was 270 yesterday's AM cycle. She came down to 106 last night at +4 and this AM was 148 so I think we are back on track. Off to research prozac for cats.

Healing vines to all in need.
 
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Hi guys .. uh oh morgaine .. how come you peed on the bed again? You know that isn't the right thing to do .. Hope you find the research you are looking for .. have a great day!
 
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what a lovely amps!

my Adopto-troublemaker Smudge sits and waits for a reaction to her misdeeds as well...
check out the look on this face :shock:

kept me awake a few times when we first got together, envisioning her polydactyl talons that I
had not yet worked up the courage to trim ;-)

Guess who wins the staring contests round here?
 

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I have used both prozac and elavil both for urinating issues here and Voodoo my stud is on elavil to control spraying he was on prozac at one time but it just did not agree with him but its a good med and you can also consider clomipramine I used the clomicalm brand says its only for dogs but its the same med you would buy for cats my vet and I used it for years for one of my abys just a few thoughts
 
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Oh no Morgaine! What's with this peeing??

Rosalie, you are being very patient. But it may drive Morgaine crazy waiting for your reaction. I hope the prozac does the trick.
 
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I am still waiting for the vet to call me back but I am going to try to go with Prozac. I once gave Morgaine an anti-dep called Mirtzapine and she had a very bad reaction to it. There are many other drugs in this family. She was very upset about moving and was really not behaving normally. The vet put her on this drug and never mentioned potential bad reaction so I had to read about it after the fact. she was more agitated and vocalizing constantly. This is one reason why I am hesitant to give her anything but I have to try something. Patience is not my virtue with this but I realize that she is doing this for a reason and I don't want to make it worse for her. I feel so sad about what is happening to Morgaine. Her hind paws are so sensitve and I wonder if she is in pain. She won't allow me to touch her left hind paw at all.

We sure could use some prayers for Morgaine to feel better. Something is off and yet she has a great appetite and is animated and alert when the fuds come out.
 
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Oh Rosalie....sending you big hugs. You don't need all this right now...you have many other things to deal with.

Sending Morgaine major healing vines and catitude adjustment vines. If you need me to run and get the prozac script or the meds for you, pls let me know. We're always out and about and you are close.
Just PM me as I'm not always getting back around to condos a second time.

Glad to see she came back down and I'm so sorry about her back paws.
 
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Mirtazepine/Remeron is an antidepressant/antianxiety med (tetracyclic antidepressant) but it is a different composition than either Prozac (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitoror) or Elavil (tricyclic antidepressant). It also has the effect of stimulating appetite in cats. Clomipramine/Anafranil is actually a tricyclic antidepressant but it has a greater anti-anxiety effect and is primarily used to treat obsessive compulsive disorders in humans. Of these drugs, Prozac is probably the safest. The tricyclic class of antidepressants can exacerbate a cardiac conduction abnormality if one is present.
 
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Marje, as always, thank you for your kindness and willingness to help. I am still waiting to hear from Dr. W. I don't think i would start her on anything until after my procedure so I will e-mail you anyway and let you know what is up. I would not give her a drug like Prozac and leave her alone for an entire day.

Maybe she is picking up on my anxiety since i never do well while waiting for these procedures.

Sienne, thanks for the clarification. I am aware of some of this but had not dealt with the mirz. ever and there were warnings on line about giving it to cats. I am willing to try prozac if the vet approves and prescribes it. Now that you mention that the mirz. is an appetite stimulant, that is why he gave it to her. She was so stressed by the move and was not eating normally. In any event, it was not a good med for her.
 
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Hi Rosalie,
I'm sorry that Morgaine isn't feeling/behaving normally and hope that it will just be a passing phase. Sending her some calming, soothing, beautiful vines.

Ella & Rusty

p.s. Thanks for your help with the meter thing!!
 
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I just spoke to the vet whom I adore. She is a very caring and kind woman. She wants me to bring Morgaine in for another urine check to rule out infection though I do not think it is what is happening. She agreed after we talked but she isn't so sure that Prozac is the answer for Morgaine. she believes Morgaine is only voiding on the bed when her bladder is full and that the effort of jumping on the bed and not having the strength in her hind quarters due to neuropathy causes her to not be able to get down to the box quickly enough. So with her bladder full, the action of jumping up with her weakness is causing the bed wetting.

I like her caution and she is not ruling out Prozac but she wants to examine her again and draw some urine from her bladder. I let her know that I can't do this for a while due to my upcoming procedure. I have to take one thing at a time and Dr. W assured me that this can wait as long as Morgaine seems otherwise fine and her BGs are under control. She does believe it is not behavioral but rather an issue of FD weakness due to neuropathy and a full bladder when she is on the bed. Her remedy for now is to make sure she has voided before letting her on the bed which is what I was doing a while back. IOW, Morgaine doesn't know that jumping on the bed with a full bladder will stimulate the need to void her bladder and when it does she just lets it go. I am so glad we spoke because I had a feeling the neuropathy was somehow related to it all.
 
Is there a way you can give Morgaine steps or the equivalent in order to get onto the bed? When my civvie George was getting up there in years, I put a low bench on the floor at the end of the bed. He could jump up there and then onto the bed. Friends of mine have steps for their kitties since their beds are rather high for their cats to jump on.
 
Sienne and Gabby said:
Is there a way you can give Morgaine steps or the equivalent in order to get onto the bed? When my civvie George was getting up there in years, I put a low bench on the floor at the end of the bed. He could jump up there and then onto the bed. Friends of mine have steps for their kitties since their beds are rather high for their cats to jump on.
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I can look into that later. I have seen ramps that can be attached to the bed as well. The vet thinks she will regain some of her hind leg strength in time as long we keep the FD regulated. This is another result of using that FS meter and not realizing how high her BGs were going for months. For now I want to rule out anything medical and then decide how to make this work for her. I am not going to stress over the peeing anymore. I am just happy to have my girl with me and i am just going to love her and let her know it.
 
I hope you find the answers for Morgaine.

I recently has some out of box urination issues with my civvie, Frankie. For her, it was actually being caused by constipation. She wasn't severely constipated, but enough to make her uncomfortable at times. I think she started peeing in the cat beds to draw attention to herself (with six cats, it's often hard to figure out who's doing what in the boxes), then we realized that she was doing it right after attempting to poo. We started her on a small dose of miralax and haven't had an issue since then.

I don't know if that's something to consider for Morgaine, but I wanted to toss it out there...
 
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