1/11 Trixie AMBG 150 - We're back, vetty update - Second Update

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Amy&TrixieCat

Amy&TrixieCat

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Trix isn't feeling well today. When I first got up, everything seemed normal...we had our snuggles, she went up to the LB while I started breffis. I went up to check on LB activity and saw that someone had spit up some clear fluid. I assumed it was her, and thought now that we've increased the binder maybe she's constipated. I cleaned it up, she came downstairs, and ate a very nice first round of breffis. Shortly after eating, civvie Petey barfed up a hairball, and then for a minute or two I thought maybe it was HIM who barfed the fluid as a precursor to the hairball. But then while I was prepping Trix's meds (including Pepcid and Cerenia), she barfed up her breakfast. That is something incredibly rare.

I managed to get her meds in and they stayed down....sort of. About 45 minutes later, I offered her a little Fancy Feast and she ate it - not enthusiastically, but she ate it. I can't remember the sequence of events after that - I think maybe she went upstairs to possibly poop, came out of the LB and I could tell she was prepping to barf again. And she did. So I don't know how much of the meds she actually absorbed. She did go back up to the box shortly after the barf and then had a small amount of diarrhea.

She did seem perkier after that. We also just gave her 50mls fluids...vetty suggested we do that to replace anything she barfs up.

We have an appointing at 11:20EST with our regular vet this morning. It is considered emergency hours, but I know my nerves can't tolerate waiting a day, plus our regular vet is not in tomorrow.

This is just unreal. Even last night she had a very happy appy. A few days ago, before her check, she was perfect. This is such a flashback to last year's nightmare....
 
I'm sure it's possible...I did open a brand new can for her this morning and it seemed OK. She ate a fair amount right before I went to bed last night (Both Fancy Feast and Purine One), which was around 11:00 or so. Foodwise, the only other difference is that we did start increasing her binder a little bit over the past few days. I'm wondering if she could be having a p-titis flare....she doesn't seem like she's full-on meatloafing, but she is laying down a little gingerly. Of course just not feeling well could cause that, too.
 
Vetty just called - they had a cancellation so now her appointment is at 10:40. She definitely seems nauseated...I gave civvie Frankie a plate of Fancy Feast about 6 feet away from Trix, and Trix started smacking her lips.....
 
Hi Amy,
I'm all connected now with a new modem and p/w. Still WV version though.

So sorry to hear Trixie is not feeling well and glad you're able to get her in to the Vetty today. Sending loads of vines and prayers and will be waiting for an update. Hugs and scritches from me and Katie.
 
Fingers and paws crossed that this is nothing that a shot of cerenia won't cure. I hope it isn't a repeat of last year.
 
(((((Amy Trixie)))))) Late seeing this, here's tons and tons more prayers that this is something un-related to pancreatitis or CKD, something that can be fixed right away- vines and prayers being sent!! Thank God you could get that earlier vet appointment- we will all wait for updates. :bighug::bighug:
 
(((Amy and Mark))) Sending many, many vines. I know you are vet the now and am hoping for an easy solution.:bighug:
 
Hope all goes well at the vets. It's so stressful when they are sick. Thinking of you and Trixie. Good Luck, Peg and Toby
 
We're back...we don't have any solid answers because it could be any one of several things....a p-titis flare, gastritis, or the result of her wicked kidney values - or, based on observation since we got back home, back to constipation. Her abdomen is definitely sensitive and gassy. The urine culture they started yesterday still shows nothing, but it has a few more days to go.

We came home with bupe (just in case....haven't given it yet), Zenaquin (vetty says new studies are showing that it's possible that up to 50% of p-titis cases actually are caused by bacteria and this is the drug of choice...again, just in case), and B12 to include in her fluids tonight.

Since we got home, though, Trix did go to the box to poop and only a few hard little nuggets came out, and then she butt scooted. She's gone back to the box several times, and actually is headed that way now, so I'm going to post this much and go check on her....I do have a call into the vet about this
 
Oh, poor Trixie. It does sound like she may be backed up a little. I hope that's all it is.
Give her extra scritches for me. I'm glad you were able to see the vet so soon this morning.
Sending vines to TrixieGirl.
 
Just spoke with the vetty....she said Trix is definitely not constipated because when she palpated Trix's belly, there was nothing in the colon.

Much of the behavior I'm observing is very similar to when she had p-titis last spring....the roaming and inability to settle and get comfortable, the LB stuff, the vomiting. Right now she is curled up in a very tight little ball finally sleeping.

We did give her Bupe a little while ago. It's a very small dose - .1ml - because last time the .2ml made her frighteningly stoned. Hopefully it's enough to cut the pain without messing up her head.

She said to offer food in a few hours, and I'm hazarding a guess that I'm probably going to have to assist feed again.

Needless to say, I am a helicoptering worrying nervous wreck. This is just unbelieveable....so much like last time, with the p-titis flaring right after vetty visit.
 
((((Amy)))), Stay calm. It may just be one of those passing things. Give it a few hours and then offer food, as the vet suggests.

Sending lots and lots of feel-better vines for Trixie,

Ella & Rusty
 
{{{Amy}}}

I know how worried you are. Take some deep breaths and try not to let your mind race through all the bad possibilities. Maybe she'll wake up feeling better and it will turn out to be just a little gas - that's how Harvey acts when he has a gas attack. Sending lots and lots of healing vines for Trixie and calming vines for you. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
(((Amy))) If it is pancreatitis, you got her healed and doing beautifully last time and I have every faith that your amazing TLC will get her back to her normal Trixie self in no time.

But just thought she might need some thoughts of healing light and lots of snowflakes.

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If it is p'itis you know what to do and not not all episodes last a long time. We've had some that last just a few days. It might just be a little virus that is ending now. Sending vibes and positive thoughts your way.
 
Hi Amy :coffee::coffee::coffee:

I am sorry trixie is not feeling well. Poor kitty! I will hope it is just an off day.... and if not, and it is a p'titis flare, you've caught it early, know what to do, and can go forward from there. I so hope she feels better in a few hours. We also tried Zenaquin when Mannie had issues. I know ECID, but this med made him very nauseated, and we had to discontinue it. We went with it initially for the reason(s) you stated, but he just couldn't handle it well. anyways - wishing you and Trixie a much better day, Be well little one!

Hugs for you, scritches for Trixie!
 
She ate another teeny bit of baby food a little while ago. She definitely has that cerenia snooze going on...I've noticed with her and the other cats that the cerenia injection definitely makes them sleep, even though the pill doesn't. I will do some assist feeding tonight. I don't want to overload her, but she needs food in her belly, too. It's that horrible catch-22 of being afraid to feed her because of the barfing but knowing she HAS to eat or she'll get really sick.

Hopefully the Zenaquin won't add to the nausea. I asked a million questions about that sort of thing, and the vet said they felt it was one of the better-tolerated ABs, but as we all know ECID. Trix has more sensitivities now than she did when she was younger.

It really does feel like a p-titis flare at this point....so many similarities to last year. But you're right, Elise...last one took months for Trix to recover, but that might not be the case again if that's what we've got. And, I am more familiar with how to deal with than I was last time. The hard part is not knowing for 100% sure. Our vet doesn't run the p-titis tests because she feels if there is anything else at all going on in the body - known or unknown - it can skew the results, and therefore she doesn't feel the information it provides is truly accurate.
 
I just went up to check on her...she was at the upstairs water bowl. I don't know if she also hit the l-box while she was up, but I did see her do one of my favorite moves: her yoga stretch. She does downward kitty and then stretches one or both of her front legs out in front of her as far as she can. It's quite adorable, and I hope her doing that means she's starting to feel better. Then she went back to the puffball she was snoozing in and curled up. She does have some bupe-eyes going, too...
 
Amy, you're flooded with LL vines, prayers, light. I'll add to them. I'm so sorry Trixie's feeling poorly, but there's no one who can help her feel better than you. One step at a time.

My Annie was on Zenaquin. Years ago. She didn't experience any noticeable side effects. Hoping the same for Trixie.

Lots of hugs.

Marilyn and Polly
 
Thank you, guys. It has been a horribly stressful day. Even though we've been through this before (assuming it's p-titis) it's still feeling fresh and new, and not in a good way. Her bad kidneys have me extra on-edge and wondering if what I'm seeing is the kidneys and not p-titis. Her behavior has been odd this afternoon, most likely because of the bupe - she is SO sensitive to it, and I was nervous enough to call the vet yet again to see if we should take her in under emergency status. The vet feels everything I described is "normal" given the circumstances and not an emergency. So, even though I was terrified to do it, I gave her her evening meds (including the Zeniquin) about half an hour ago. So far they have stayed put. We did fluids a little while ago as well (that wasn't as scary as the meds!). Of course we forgot to add the B12 in to the fluids. Hopefully we'll remember that tomorrow. I just offered her some regular food, and she couldn't have been less interested if she tried (but she didn't act nauseated with lip-smacking), so I'm going to puree some up and attempt a small assist-feeding soon and pray that that also stays down. (At least we also have experience with assist-feeding) And we'll go from there. At the moment she does just seem mellow and I feel less nervous about how she is. I honestly can't tell if it's not enough bupe and she is having some pain, or if it's the bupe making her seem wonky, but I'm inclined to think it's the latter, knowing how she's reacted to bupe in the past.

Rambling now....I turn to mental mush when anything goes awry with my kitties....

I haven't checked her BG tonight....might give her a break until tomorrow. Hopefully this bout of whatever-it-is won't kick her out of OTJ status....
 
(((Amy))) I am so sorry that I am late finding out about poor Trixie. I have been away all day and just now checking condos. If it is the start of p-titis, you are on top of things very early. You are doing everything right -- assist feeding, fluids, bupe and cerenia. You may want to consider upping the fluids right now if it is a p-titis episode, at least for a few days. If it is pancreatitis, it may only be a short episode so keep on doing what you are doing and concentrate on the now. I know how stressed you must be because as you know, I am dealing with many of the same issues. I tend to be OCD about every movement Simon makes and also over-analyze everything. It is normal thing to do and we all can empathize with the level of stress you are feeling

Another thought -- maybe it is the increased amount of binder? Cleo really had trouble with the binder and I couldn't put more than a little bit in her food or she would get sick.

I don't know anything about Zenaquin so sorry I can't give you any advice.

I am praying hard for you and your little girl. Prayers definitely do help and I know lots of them are going out to you and Trixie this evening from your LL friends. Big hugs.
 
So far so good with the first syringe, although she wasn't super-thrilled to see that tool again (neither was I). But, she is actually FAIRLY easy to assist-feed. I'm going slow with it tonight. She does seem more comfortable now than she was earlier...maybe because of the fluids? Now I wish we did them earlier. But I'm still a nervous wreck.

@Georgia - we are actually in the process of increasing her fluids anyway, going from 100mls eventually up to 150mls. She's actually had two shots today - 50mls this morning after she threw up, and another 125mls tonight. We were going to go up to 150mls at the end of this week, but maybe we will take her up sooner than that.

I'm wondering about the binder, too, but I have feeling that's not the issue right now. Sometimes she doesn't like the binder in her food and won't eat it, but it hasn't made her sick before. But we can't rule anything out, either.

Why can't they talk????

Thank you for all the prayers. I know they help, especially when they are coming from my LL family, and we can definitely feel them tonight.
 
Sending continuing prayers and healing and calming vines- I know how stressful this is for you! I hope you can get some sleep tonight, it is important that you take care of yoruself as well!
 
While we don't know and all things are possible, I wouldn't think it would be the binder. It's not like you started at 1/4 tsp. What you could do is back it down to 1/8 tsp for a day and then add another 1/16 and then after a few days, add the rest to take her up to 1/8 bid. Since she isn't eating much, then her P level isn't going up. I learned this when my GA Maxie had high P and was in the hospital on IV fluids. His P level came down a lot because he wasn't eating. Never really thought about it but since the food contributes to the P level, then less or no food means you don't have to give her as much binder until she's eating regularly. You've got time to slowly increase it.

Sending more prayers for you both. I hope you can try and rest and please, please do not worry about the board. it's all good. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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