09 Mar: Teasel (AT): AM 184 | +2 326 | PM 418

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Already bouncing ... :stop: Not sure that 2.75 u keeps a lid on bouncing as well as 3 u but 3 u can also drop him too low even after being on it many cycles. If I can figure out how to get a skinny 3u consistently I might try that. He's one tricky cat!
 
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Kris maybe try calipers to help you fine tune the dose as the syringes can be so irregular with the markings. They really helped me . If you want the link where to get them let me know.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Kris maybe try calipers to help you fine tune the dose as the syringes can be so irregular with the markings. They really helped me . If you want the link where to get them let me know.
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Hi bobbie,

By all means send the link. I might have to go down the caliper road.
 
canadian tire is the type i got and if you watch and wait they come on for great sales of around $14 instead of the $40
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-digital-caliper-0586800p.html#srp

also if you have a KMS tools they should carry them... and most likely Princess Auto

... they made a difference in Lincoln... 7.25 was too much... 7 not enough... got the calipers and turns out i was giving closer to 7.5... set the calipers for a 7.25 dose and Lincoln got into healing numbers and i was able to sleep without him diving in with the sharks... i would look into it as it seems you are having the same problem that one is too much and one not enough
 
Lincolns Mom said:
7.25 was too much... 7 not enough... got the calipers and turns out i was giving closer to 7.5... set the calipers for a 7.25 dose and Lincoln got into healing numbers and i was able to sleep without him diving in with the sharks... i would look into it as it seems you are having the same problem that one is too much and one not enough
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Not to mention the inconsistency in the syringe markings, so that 2.75 one day is more like 3.0, and another day maybe more like 2.5! I never used the caliper method myself, but I think it makes a lot of sense to try it for a sensitive kitty like Teasel.
 
@Kris & Teasel, I can't see your spreadsheet as I'm at work, but what worked for Frankie was not reacting to one low number and reducing immediately. I waited until he got 3 in 3 separate cycles before reducing. I'm not sure if the dose even helps with bouncing. Frankie bounced when he was on 5 units and also when he was on 2 units, just as high, until he got fed up and decided to stop being so dramatic.
 
Sue484 said:
@Kris & Teasel, I can't see your spreadsheet as I'm at work, but what worked for Frankie was not reacting to one low number and reducing immediately. I waited until he got 3 in 3 separate cycles before reducing. I'm not sure if the dose even helps with bouncing. Frankie bounced when he was on 5 units and also when he was on 2 units, just as high, until he got fed up and decided to stop being so dramatic.
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Thanks, Sue. I know you understand dramatic cat responses. I could certainly try that. The dose reduction from 3.0 u back down to 2.75 u happened because of my NS on 03 Mar PM. I'm still learning my way through Lantus Land with a cat who doesn't follow standard procedures. I'd increased very slightly last night to a skinny 3.0 u and he rewarded me with a 3.2 this AM. Another NS. I know I'll have a better feel for how to handle these situations as time goes on but right now they're unnerving! :eek:
 
@Kris & Teasel. I know how unnerving an unpredictable cat can be, but as you are home to monitor, you can be a bit more daring. Frankie is unusual in that he takes at least 5 days to see what a dose can do. He used to do a double bounce before I could see the full effect of the dose.
 
Sue484 said:
@Kris & Teasel. I know how unnerving an unpredictable cat can be, but as you are home to monitor, you can be a bit more daring. Frankie is unusual in that he takes at least 5 days to see what a dose can do. He used to do a double bounce before I could see the full effect of the dose.
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Nice to know I'm not alone with a very tricky cat, Sue! :) I'm learning that Teasel, too, needs more than 3 days on a dose to do his version of "settling". I also see that skipping a shot because of a very low PS scrambles him more and for longer than your "average" FD kitty (if such a thing exists ...).
 
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Maybe try stalling without food next time you get a low pre shot. If he's rising after 30 minutes, then shoot. I tried not to skip too many shots but had to do a few 18 hour cycles. Frankie started throwing low preshots at me a few weeks before getting regulated, so you never know, maybe Teasel is reading the same instruction manual as Frankie. Lets hope so.
 
Sue484 said:
Maybe try stalling without food next time you get a low pre shot. If he's rising after 30 minutes, then shoot. I tried not to skip too many shots but had to do a few 18 hour cycles. Frankie started throwing low preshots at me a few weeks before getting regulated, so you never know, maybe Teasel is reading the same instruction manual as Frankie. Lets hope so.
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Good tip. Could you please explain how you handled 18 hour cycles? Do you mean doses 18 hours apart and then a reversion to 12 hours apart?
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Do you mean doses 18 hours apart and then a reversion to 12 hours apart?
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Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Look at my spreadsheet from July 2016. There are also times where +11 is shown which was really proper test time, then PMPS is 30 mins later and you can see whether I shot or not depending if his numbers had increased. Then August last year he started getting regulated.
 
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