09/10--ittle help please--PHOEBE--AMPS--HI, +3.5-403, pmps--188, +4--63, +4.5--57, +5--73, +5.5-99

eva eva

eva eva

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This amps read high.
I had alot of difficulty getting a drop of blood. But finally got one--(i poked 5 times) :( Her ears were cool.
I placed a warm towel on them. And got a good drop. (The right ear always seems to be a problem).
Could I have stressed her doing the pokes to raise it up? It took several minutes.
By the end she was huffing an puffin and growling at me.
I have the depth of the poker at 3.5
Gave the insulin --another hissing episode with growls...

I have the coconut oil, does that have an anesthetic property to it?
I have heard the paw works.......not sure she would let me---that may be a wrestling match.
 
@eva eva your date in your title should be 9-10
Most of us just hold the lancets in our hand and poke have you tried that instead of using that lancet device. If you look at the lancet closely you will see one end curves upright that's the side you want to poke with.
The coconut oil does not numb the ears
Are you using 26 or 28 gauge lancets

Going to tag a few members to take a look at your SS and see why they think her numbers are still so high. I just feel bad that she's seeing black and reds now

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@Suzanne & Darcy

@Bandit's Mom

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@Bron and Sheba (GA)

@Wendy&Neko

Thanks ladies if you can read post #4 also
 
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I am using the lancets from the Alpha trak 2 kit. I looked on the kit and it doesn't say. from what i can see it is 28 gauge. Are you talking about the bevel of the tip? it has that cutting edge? with the device, it holds the lancet straight up and down.
If I were to poke her with the lancet, bevel up or down? I use to place lines in people and we always entered bevel up.
 
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eva eva said:
I am using the lancets from the Alpha trak 2 kit. I looked on the kit and it doesn't say. on the web--they have 26 and 28. Are you talking about the bevel of the tip? it has that cutting edge? with the device, it holds the lancet straight up and down.
If I were to poke her with the lancet, bevel up or down? I use to place lines in people and we always entered bevel up.
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You can buy 26 or 28 gauge lancets in any pharmacy, CVS, Walgreen's, rite aid, Walmart etc
I usually buy the ones that say thin or ultra thin
Yes you want the poke with bevel up

I did a search here on our site and found this posted by one of our members about the friskies original party mix kibble
Purina Friskies Party Mix. I looked up the chicken flavour. : Chicken, chicken meal,brewers rice, chicken by-product meal, pea starch, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols, barley, corn gluten meal, cassava root flour, …
https://www.purina.ca/friskies/cat-treats/party-mix-crunch-original

44% carbs – that's quite the party.

Is Phoebe eating any of this during the day or night at all or even the Dr Elsey's dry?


I saw you said this on one of your posts that
friskies party mix original or beachside crunch. I think somebody said it has 29.7%CHO
 
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:nailbiting:--44.7 carbs:nailbiting:!!! that is their favorite!. NOw I know why.

You are right somebody did say they were 29.7%.
I have actually been putting less of the party out and I now have a variety of Instinct limited ingredient diet , Wellness Core original and indoor. They are nibbling on them. which is good. Eventually, the party will be over.
Phoebe threw up after dinner. I still gave her the 2.25 insulin. I did it about 20minutes early---188.

Dr. Elseys isn't going well. I got all of the samples.....they sort of liked the salmon....but the novelty has worn off.

I do still have the party mix original and beach side crunch in a limited amount out. And I put it away at night now.
I am going to leave the lc dry out for the night. Do you think that is ok?
Snickers still fighting the moist...I started to give him his own bowl.....I don't think he knew what to do with that.
I started to line up the lancet on the spring loaded poker. I got her in one poke tonight. But it took the blood a little coaxing to have enough.
But no hissing, growling, or huffing.puffin.
 
Congrats on the reduction. Yes, test again 30 minutes from your last test. Numbers are still in a safe range, but you want to make sure they aren't still dropping too much further. What % carb is that friskies Gravy and how much, a teaspoon perhaps? It's always a good idea to also make notes in the remarks with how much carb and at the time you feed particularly when dropping numbers like this cycle is, so you can use the info in the future, and see what works or didn't.
 
abouat a teaspoon.
Friskies turkey and chees dinner in gravy.
I can't find Dr.
Piersons cood chart
 
57 repeat @ 0.5 hour
more friskies shred turkey and cheese dinner in gravy?? i gave her another generous teaspoon

thanks for the link for the food.
I think i see 14 % cho.
 
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Good, that's flat, you could give a couple of teaspoons of LC food now, and see how she is in 30 minutes. Time to surf, Phoebe.


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thank you--- If i was working (retired) I would be pulling out the D50 and checking every 10-15 minutes..... Kitties are sooo different
 
It takes time to get a feel for how your own kitty responds to insulin and carbs, they are indeed different than people. How is she acting otherwise? When my Mav gets under 100 he thinks it's fun to play with his spongy ball in the bath tub, especially at night.
 
I am not sure what it means to be configured to the pet meter. I was asked to change the meter to the Relion at the top. I changed a bit ago
 
she is now 73--i added it onto the same cell as the previous one. It is a bit better. should i give her more food. or let her alone for the night?

How do I get the numbers changed for the reference?
 
@eva eva on your Spreadsheet go back to the +4 cell (square) and under the 63 put +4.5 57
And in the 5 cell under the 73. put +5.5 99

When you test in 30 minutes we put @ .5
If you were to test 15 minutes we put @ .25
45 minutes would be @ .75

When Bhooma sees the tag she will change the color codes up top for you
 
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Thank-you for your help.
I was looking at the link you sent on the testing and shooting.
I feel like an idiot. I have been testing the other side of her ear. I mostly go for the "sweet spot' but on the medial aspect of her ear. (if that makes sense.) more forward portion of the ear.
I also hold light pressure with my fingers after her poke to tamp the area so no more blood leaks-hence less bruise.... is that correct? or should I use a cotton ball or cloth?

emla ----we use this on kids for suturing. We give it before the suturing--about 1/2 hour as it needs to absorb. Can you help me to understand why give it afterwards?
 
eva eva said:
I also hold light pressure with my fingers after her poke to tamp the area so no more blood leaks-hence less bruise.... is that correct? or should I use a cotton ball or cloth?
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I would go but cotton rounds you know what you use to remove make up with and use them just fold it on her ear so it's behind and in front if the ear and press gently for about 10 seconds
 
eva eva said:
emla ----we use this on kids for suturing. We give it before the suturing--about 1/2 hour as it needs to absorb. Can you help me to understand why give it afterwards?
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I never used it but did a search on our site and found this

prescription Emla cream and it's pain relieving ingredient is lidocaine, which some sources say is not good for cats as they will be sensitive to it.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
This is what it says the carbs are
What is the carb content in this food? Thank you!
This recipe contains approximately 27.00% Carbohydrates on an As-Fed basis (approximately 29.35% Carbohydrates on a Dry Matter basis).

Is this what you are feeding
https://www.chewy.com/wellness-core-grain-free-indoor/dp/37139
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yes that is one of them. I think I had asked about low carb dry food.

This was one of the listed ones. maybe I didn't read the post well. I need to find that post this isn't really low carb

Here are the other 2:
https://www.chewy.com/instinct-limited-ingredient-diet/dp/146315

https://www.chewy.com/wellness-core-grain-free-original/dp/34435
i just sent a chat to see if they can tell me also.


they were unable to tell me---i sent an email to the company
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
I never used it but did a search on our site and found this

prescription Emla cream and it's pain relieving ingredient is lidocaine, which some sources say is not good for cats as they will be sensitive to it.
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I think I saw that also. I do know that lidocaine has toxic properties for humans as well. I would be afraid she would absorb too much
 
eva eva said:
I think I saw that also. I do know that lidocaine has toxic properties for humans as well. I would be afraid she would absorb too much
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Wellness core original says
What percent is carbohydrate?
Answer by • Mar 25, 2021
This recipe has a carbohydrate content of 13.04% on an as fed basis and 14.17% on a dry matter basis.
 
Is 14% a good number to have for a kibble? Or should I look for a lower carb content?
I would like to be able to leave the kibble out for when I leave for those 4-7days.

This may be a stupid question. but--if I find a low (<10% kibble) and mix it with the 14.7% (or one comparable that they will eat) would that be lower carbs as it is mixed? maybe?
 
eva eva said:
Is 14% a good number to have for a kibble? Or should I look for a lower carb content?
I would like to be able to leave the kibble out for when I leave for those 4-7days.

This may be a stupid question. but--if I find a low (<10% kibble) and mix it with the 14.7% (or one comparable that they will eat) would that be lower carbs as it is mixed? maybe?
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When are you going away I didn't know this
Not really for Phoebe
Have you looked at ziwi peak kibble
What is the carb content of this food? On a prior Q&A from 2018, its listed as 2%. When I do the math based on the current label, I'm getting a different number. Can you confirm the percent carbs? thank you!!
Answer by • Mar 18, 2020
This recipe contains approximately 1.00% Carbohydrates on an as-fed basis.
https://www.chewy.com/ziwi-peak-air...Z7Nodiw1EG3wDt4gdmROWKnW7pMEuknsaAg5XEALw_wcB


https://www.chewy.com/ziwi-peak-air...oL6g4ECkojS-xQZ6KP8qJd3bWVL79iKEaAm20EALw_wcB
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
When are you going away I didn't know this
Not really for Phoebe
Have you looked at ziwi peak kibble
What is the carb content of this food? On a prior Q&A from 2018, its listed as 2%. When I do the math based on the current label, I'm getting a different number. Can you confirm the percent carbs? thank you!!
Answer by • Mar 18, 2020
This recipe contains approximately 1.00% Carbohydrates on an as-fed basis.
https://www.chewy.com/ziwi-peak-air...Z7Nodiw1EG3wDt4gdmROWKnW7pMEuknsaAg5XEALw_wcB
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I don't have a set schedule. I go out to work as an educator at least once a month in southwest Wisconsin and see my kids. (3 hours away.) My next time is September 23 -26. I leave after the am dosing and come back by the pm dosing.
following that I go out on October 4th after the am dosing and come back on the October 10th pmps dosing in the evening. My friend then takes care of all my kitties and house sits--well she comes over and watches netflix and does her laundry. she can't do the insulin draw-up. she gets nervous just giving her insulin. That is why I want to have kibble out for them. I know the moist won't spoil. I want to get all kitties to the moist. I am fighting with Snickers. he doesn't seem to know what to do with it and he is a covert eater.
 
eva eva said:
I don't have a set schedule. I go out to work as an educator at least once a month in southwest Wisconsin and see my kids. (3 hours away.) My next time is September 23 -26. I leave after the am dosing and come back by the pm dosing.
following that I go out on October 4th after the am dosing and come back on the October 10th pmps dosing in the evening. My friend then takes care of all my kitties and house sits--well she comes over and watches netflix and does her laundry. she can't do the insulin draw-up. she gets nervous just giving her insulin. That is why I want to have kibble out for them. I know the moist won't spoil. I want to get all kitties to the moist. I am fighting with Snickers. he doesn't seem to know what to do with it and he is a covert eater.
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Oh yes I remember you draw up the insulin for her and leave in the fridge, so many kitties it's hard to remember
 
eva eva said:
How do you find this information? You are so smart!
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I'm not that smart :p Do you see up top where it says search well I was typing in low carb cat food and found that someone said try ziwi air dried cat food ,that's how I found it. Then I went to the search again and typed in ziwi air dried food and you will see a lot of posts and the word ziwi air dried is in bold letters , so you can tap on them and see what the members say
If you want to find something out you can just go to the search area up too and type in what you are looking for like I did for that Elma cream
I just typed in Elma cream.
Sometimes you might have to put in different ways to type in what you are looking for

Before you have to leave make sure you post ahead of time like you did before and ask about the dose again and if you should have the sitter leave out the higher carb dry over night or the ziwi that's if they like it
I worry lol
@eva eva
 
Here is another one I found when I googed this

What is the carb%?
Answer by • Feb 08, 2018
Feline Natural can confirm that there are virtually no Carbohydrates in any of their Feline Natural products. For a cat's optimum nutrition as an obligate carnivore, their recipes are made up of over 99% meat, blood, bone and offal, with the last of their recipe made up from green-lipped mussels and essential nutrients.
https://www.chewy.com/feline-natural-chicken-lamb-feast/dp/35432?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12753859388&utm_content=Feline Natural&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjvaYBhDlARIsAO8PkE3anuZsDUnL1y_MyU0z_9B6YiPvBzp2hC7fK0cFIr52pu6WDfdR6x8aAlo9EALw_wcB

@eva eva
 
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OH! that is good.
Feline Natural. looking at their website-- ooohhh kittie---11 oz bags---$39......I don't see any dry kibble just freeze dried.
Petsmart carries.....It is a thought if only for my absence.
any other suggestions that may work?


Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Here is another one I found when I googed this

What is the carb%?
Answer by • Feb 08, 2018
Feline Natural can confirm that there are virtually no Carbohydrates in any of their Feline Natural products. For a cat's optimum nutrition as an obligate carnivore, their recipes are made up of over 99% meat, blood, bone and offal, with the last of their recipe made up from green-lipped mussels and essential nutrients.
https://www.chewy.com/feline-natural-chicken-lamb-feast/dp/35432?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12753859388&utm_content=Feline Natural&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjvaYBhDlARIsAO8PkE3anuZsDUnL1y_MyU0z_9B6YiPvBzp2hC7fK0cFIr52pu6WDfdR6x8aAlo9EALw_wcB

@eva eva
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eva eva said:
OH! that is good.
Feline Natural. looking at their website-- ooohhh kittie---11 oz bags---$39......I don't see any dry kibble just freeze dried.
Petsmart carries.....It is a thought if only for my absence.
any other suggestions that may work?
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They only have freeze dried it's used as a complete meal or as a topper for low carb wet food , yes it is expensive
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
They only have freeze dried it's used as a complete meal or as a topper for low carb wet food , yes it is expensive
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Well, Maybe I could have my caregiver put extra moist food out. (she does come twice a day) anything left over at the end of the day---or the next morning she could throw out. Not ideal. but there is food in case of low sugars.
 
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