05/23 Blackie PMPS 111

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Angela & Blackie & 3 Others

Angela & Blackie & 3 Others

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Yesterday's condo:
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With regards to her feeding schedule, I had given her FF Turkey & Giblets AMPS, +6, PMPS +4 (sometimes +4.5 if I go to bed later).

Now, I'm giving her FF Beef & Liver flavor AMPS, +4, +8, PMPS, and +4 (1/4 can each time now since the cans are small). Any help with regards to her mealtimes is greatly appreciated as I'm stuck. The reason I'm giving her the Beef & Liver flavor is because it's 2% in carbs.

Here's her waistline as of this a.m.:

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She lapsat a bit this morning. :) And enjoyed scritches. She's her usual Blackie-tudy self. :)

Should I go back to the Turkey & Giblets (3% carbs) and just give her an extra feeding or 2 on the new schedule? I was hoping to bring her down naturally with food. Granted, she hasn't been on her new feeding schedule for long, though. I know that it was mentioned in the past about fattening her dose. Do I need to consider doing that now, or try to continue with the feeding schedule, and perhaps feed a bit more often, but how much? I'd like to be able to get her under 100 24/7 if at all possible.

I'm stuck.

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Re: Tweak Feeding Question 05/23 Blackie AMPS 108

I doubt that it matters whether you feed 2% or 3% unless Blackie is very carb sensitive.

I believe the point that Jill and Libby were making is to front load food -- in other words, feed earlier to offset the early drops. You might want to eliminate the +8 feeding and not feed after nadir. I break out Gabby's food at pre-shot, +1, +2, and +3 since she drops early in the cycle.
 
Re: Tweak Feeding and/or Dosing Question 05/23 Blackie AMPS

Her nadir is +4, which would leave her with no food between that time and the PS time (about 8 hours).... Not arguing your point here.. Simply trying to make sense of it all.

Blackie is a bit carb sensitive. She can find a crumb on the floor, and it'll move her # up a bit. However, I'm guessing that she's that extremely carb sensitive. Just thought about lowering her carbs to help lower the #s. Lord knows I've been wrong before.

I know through her recent history at bedtime that when I fed +4, and she didnt' get food until breffis, her PS # would be higher.

I've finally uploaded her newest avatar. She was NOT amused when I took the picture. LOL
 
Re: Tweak Feeding and/or Dosing Question 05/23 Blackie AMPS

Hi guys .. I know all these feeding schedules can be confusing, trying to figure out the best way to feed our kitties .. blackies little waistline looks dainty :lol: have a great day guys!
 
Re: Tweak Feeding and/or Dosing Question 05/23 Blackie AMPS

I'm the worst when it comes to feeding my cat because I hate to see him hungry. Looking at how often you feed, and how much at each feeding, that equals out to 3.75 ounces of food each day. Looking at Janet & Binky's food list, there are 97 calories in a can of FF Turkey & Giblets so Blackie would be getting about 121 calories a day from the FF. Are you also giving other food because this just doesn't seem like enough food. I'm definitely not presuming to know what your cat needs and I'm sure you know what you're doing without me putting my two cents into the mix. Because I've been trying to get Champ to lose weight, I went on Dr. Lisa's site to see how many calories I should feed him and found that a 14 pound cat (which is what I want Champ to weigh) should eat about 260 calories. She did note the formula used to determine how many calories tends to run high so he would most likely need less calories. I've been giving him 6 ounces of wet food and small treats for pokes which equals out to about 260 calories a day, but he's not losing weight so I know I need to cut back further. I was just wondering how much your kitty weighs because I sure hope Champ doesn't have to reduce his food intake that much...he'll never leave me alone!!
 
Re: Tweak Feeding and/or Dosing Question 05/23 Blackie AMPS

hi angela. i'll try to incorporate answers to questions asked via PM as well as address the issues brought up here. looks to me like we have two separate issues being discussed in your condo today: using food to manipulate a curve and how much food to feed.

according to J & B's food charts, FF Beef & Liver = 93.6oz per can. if you're feeding 5 mini-meals of 1/4 can each, blackie consumes 117 calories daily. you mentioned blackie weighs 12.2 pounds. using dr. lisa's calculations, 117 calories sounds on the low side to me, but her activity level and how she metabolizes her food does enter into the picture. dr. lisa has some great info on her website: How Much Do I Feed?. you might want to double check the amount you're feeding using her formula to make sure blackie is getting enough calories everyday.

Do you know of any horror stories with feeding a cat the Beef & Liver flavor for a long period of time? Ie. GI tract issues.
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no, i haven't heard of any problems perhaps others will chime in if they have anything to add.


my understanding of your current feeding schedule based on this statement:

Now, I'm giving her FF Beef & Liver flavor AMPS, +4, +8, PMPS, and +4 (1/4 can each time now since the cans are small). Any help with regards to her mealtimes is greatly appreciated as I'm stuck. The reason I'm giving her the Beef & Liver flavor is because it's 2% in carbs.
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amps - 1/4 can
+4 - 1/4 can
+8 - 1/4 can
pmps - 1/4 can
+4 - 1/4 can

via PM...
AMPS 1/4 can, +4 1/4 can +6 1/4 can, PMPS 1/4 can, +4-ish 1/4 can.
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my understanding of her current feeding schedule based on the PM you sent:

amps - 1/4 can
+4 - 1/4 can
+6 - 1/4 can
pmps - 1/4 can
+4ish - 1/4 can



my suggestion...
given a nadir at +4 and the amounts currently fed + an additional snack, you might want to try something like this:

amps - 1/4 can
+2 - 1/4 can
+3 - 1/4 can
+8 - some small pieces of freeze dried or boiled chicken (just enough to tide her over til the next meal time)
pmps - 1/4 can
+2 - 1/4 can
+3 - 1/4 can

this schedule is simply a starting point. you may have to tweak it as time goes on. when you use food to manipulate the curve, generally speaking, you'll see her numbers rise a little and become flatter. this is ok. by not letting her dip as low, you'll be able to fatten the dose without her dropping too low. kwim?
 
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