05/15/17 Squallie AMPS 63,+1/58,+2/42,+2.30/49,+3/43,+3.40/50, PMPS 76,+1/80, +2/103, +4/80

[Squalliesmom]

Yesterday

Prayers and healing vines to all those who are in need of them.

 

[tiffmaxee]

I haven't looked at your ss in quite a while. Look at all that green!

 

[Squalliesmom]

I haven't looked at your ss in quite a while. Look at all that green!

I never thought we'd get to the point where he spent almost all his time in green numbers! And his dose has been reduced quite a bit, too! He's a happy, playful cat again, and I am so happy for him.

 

[Squalliesmom]

+2/42
Gave him a tbsp HC food since it's so early in the cycle. Will test again in 20 minutes.

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

Yay to another reducie!

 

[Madrona and Leda (GA)]

Woah Squallie! Congratulations on the reduction (and the HC, yum )

 

[Squalliesmom]

+2.30/49
Gave a little more HC food. My son put away my gravy food and apparently he's the only one who knows where it is - and of course, he's at work! Can't find my Karo, either!

 

[Madrona and Leda (GA)]

Come on up Squallie! You don't need to make your human find the karo.

 

[Squalliesmom]

Come on up Squallie! You don't need to make your human find the karo.

Oh, I'm on the trail of it now! And the gravy food, lol. My son just texted it's location to me!

 

[Madrona and Leda (GA)]

And the gravy food, lol. My son just texted it's location to me!

lucky Squallie!

 

[Tanya and Ducia]

Is there a new test result?

 

[Judy and Boomer]

WOW look at those numbers!

 

[Squalliesmom]

Is there a new test result?

Back down to 43. But this time he got a dollop of Karo syrup, which he just adores, lol. Slurped it right up! Will test again in 20-30.

 

[Squalliesmom]

WOW look at those numbers!

He's certainly making a statement today, lol!

ETA: He's also feeling really good and full of himself. He's been playing "chase" with the other cats and running all over the house; I have to chase him down to get a test in, lol. Fat old man hasn't run that much in years!

 

[Tanya and Ducia]

He's certainly making a statement today

Loud and clear he does!
Common Squallie, don't be so stubborn - mommy heard you. Up a bit you go now!

 

[Squalliesmom]

+3.40/ 50!
I didn't give him any more food or Karo, I'll test again in 20-30 to see if he's staying up on his own. Fingers and paws crossed!

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

+3.40/ 50!
I didn't give him any more food or Karo, I'll test again in 20-30 to see if he's staying up on his own. Fingers and paws crossed!

When is his nadir? You may need to boost him up again.

 

[Squalliesmom]

When is his nadir? You may need to boost him up again.

His nadir is usually pretty early so I'm hoping he'll stay up on his own. But I've got plenty of HC and Karo if we need it!

 

[Squalliesmom]

+4/77 Yay!
Right now he's eating his regular, LC lunch. I will check him again in about an hour.

 

[Squalliesmom]

+5/139
Yeah, I'd say I brought his bg back up!

 

[Squalliesmom]

This is his first drop below 50 at this dose so I should not reduce his dose yet, correct?

 

[Tanya and Ducia]

I wish I could give sound advice but I am such a reducie grabber that I better bump your post up and let others speak

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

You are doing TR so you do take the reducie. If you were SLGS, you would need 3 drops under 90 to earn a reduction. With TR, it is only one time under 50 to get a reduction.

ETA: Don't listen to me ... I was totally in the wrong on this.

 

[Squalliesmom]

I wish I could give sound advice but I am such a reducie grabber that I better bump your post up and let others speak

Tanya, you have come so far and learned so much in such a short period of time (think back to your first, panicked post!), you should be very proud of yourself! This a a great forum for learning, I think we probably all learn a little bit more every day!

 

[Tanya and Ducia]

With TR, it is only one time under 50 to get a reduction.

unless your kitty is long time diabetic. Ducia by the rules of TR should be getting down there 3 times before getting reducie. I could never managed to that so far. To be completely frank - I doubted my decisions to take reducie prematurely every time I've done so.

This a a great forum for learning, I think we probably all learn a little bit more every day

I couldn't agree more!

(think back to your first, panicked post!)

Apologies for bragging but beating down the fear/panic is my greatest achievement so far.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

If you were SLGS, you would need 3 drops under 90 to earn a reduction. With TR, it is only one time under 50 to get a reduction.

Actually, with SLGS, it's one drop under 90 for a reduction.

Sorry to be a party-pooper, but Squallie is a long-term diabetic, so he needs to drop below 40 to earn another reduction. Something tells me it won't be long before he does, though! He's certainly looking good!

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Hey Lucy, just look at Squallie! So glad that you shot last night or Squallie might not have earned that reduction today.

The 3 drops below I thought were for kitties that didn't hold reductions well and I noticed that you did that with the 3 unit dose. Does Sqaullie usually not hold reductions well? A long term diabetic like Squallie would take the reduction under 40. And a new diabetic would take it at 50. At least that is how I interrupt the TR protocol.

ETA: Actually, I just realized that you held the dose with 3 units because he had not dropped below 40.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Ducia by the rules of TR should be getting down there 3 times before getting reducie.

Actually, that isn't what TR says. It's one drop under 40 for a long time diabetic. We recommend the three under 50 for cats that have a history of failing reductions.

 

[Squalliesmom]

You are doing TR so you do take the reducie. If you were SLGS, you would need 3 drops under 90 to earn a reduction. With TR, it is only one time under 50 to get a reduction.

I think that may be exactly backwards. In the past I have always waited for three drops below 50, on the advice of others and also using Tilly's TR Lantus protocol: "... if the nadir glucose concentration is 40 - <50 mg/dl at least three times on separate days, try lowering the dose. If the cat drops below 40 mg/dl once, reduce the dose immediately!"

 

[Squalliesmom]

Actually, with SLGS, it's one drop under 90 for a reduction.

Sorry to be a party-pooper, but Squallie is a long-term diabetic, so he needs to drop below 40 to earn another reduction. Something tells me it won't be long before he does, though! He's certainly looking good!

Thanks for the clarification, Tricia, that's what I thought.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

If the three drops under 50 works best for you, Lucy, then by all means go for it! Again, I don't think Squallie will make you wait long for it.

 

[Squalliesmom]

unless your kitty is long time diabetic. Ducia by the rules of TR should be getting down there 3 times before getting reducie. I could never managed to that so far. To be completely frank - I doubted my decisions to take reducie prematurely every time I've done so.

I couldn't agree more!

Apologies for bragging but beating down the fear/panic is my greatest achievement so far.

You're doing great!

 

[Squalliesmom]

Hey Lucy, just look at Squallie! So glad that you shot last night or Squallie might not have earned that reduction today.

The 3 drops below I thought were for kitties that didn't hold reductions well and I noticed that you did that with the 3 unit dose. Does Sqaullie usually not hold reductions well? A long term diabetic like Squallie would take the reduction under 40. And a new diabetic would take it at 50. At least that is how I interrupt the TR protocol.

ETA: Actually, I just realized that you held the dose with 3 units because he had not dropped below 40.

Squallie used to not hold reductions, but his handling of insulin has seemed to change greatly since the first of the year.

If the three drops under 50 works best for you, Lucy, then by all means go for it! Again, I don't think Squallie will make you wait long for it.

I don't think he will, either, lol!

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

Apologies everyone!! I should have added the warning.. "I am not a pro" like I have done on some other condos. Now I know better!!

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

This is his first drop below 50 at this dose so I should not reduce his dose yet, correct?

unless your kitty is long time diabetic. Ducia by the rules of TR should be getting down there 3 times before getting reducie. I could never managed to that so far.

You are doing TR so you do take the reducie. If you were SLGS, you would need 3 drops under 90 to earn a reduction. With TR, it is only one time under 50 to get a reduction.

The 3 drops below I thought were for kitties that didn't hold reductions well and I noticed that you did that with the 3 unit dose. Does Sqaullie usually not hold reductions well? A long term diabetic like Squallie would take the reduction under 40. And a new diabetic would take it at 50. At least that is how I interrupt the TR protocol.

Sorry to be a party-pooper, but Squallie is a long-term diabetic, so he needs to drop below 40 to earn another reduction. Something tells me it won't be long before he does, though! He's certainly looking good!

The correct info regarding reductions can be found in the first part of this post:
Reminder: *earning* reductions and starting OTJ trials

 

[Squalliesmom]

Apologies everyone!! I should have added the warning.. "I am not a pro" like I have done on some other condos. Now I know better!!

That's okay, no apologies needed! Like I said to Tanya, we all keep learning, every day, here at FDMB!

 

[Squalliesmom]

The correct info regarding reductions can be found in the first part of this post:
Reminder: *earning* reductions and starting OTJ trials

Thanks, Jill!!!

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

You're welcome!
There was so much confusion, I thought it best to just link the reminder post.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Great reminder, Jill. I especially like the clarification that for the three drops, it's between 40 and 50 - one under 40 should be an automatic reduction. I'll try to remember to phrase it that way in future.

 

[Squalliesmom]

You're welcome!
There was so much confusion, I thought it best to just link the reminder post.

I'm really glad you did, thank you!
I have been referring to Tilly's TR protocol which says pretty much the same thing.

 

[carfurby (GA)]

Look at Squallie go. He's looking good. I think I posted in your condo yesterday and it disappeared. I did have a good Mother's Day.

 

[Jill & Alex (GA)]

I'm really glad you did, thank you!

No problem.
Feel free to bump any of the yellow tagged Info posts at any time.
They were designed to be bumped because we all need reminders from time to time.

 

[Squalliesmom]

Look at Squallie go. He's looking good. I think I posted in your condo yesterday and it disappeared. I did have a good Mother's Day.

I'm glad you had a good day.
Squallie is definitely full of himself today, lol.

 

[Squalliesmom]

Okay, we're facing the same dilemma we did last night and this morning - his pre-shot bg is only 61. It worked out okay last night, but not so much this morning. Right now I'm stalling but what do I do if he doesn't come up appreciably?

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

That's a tough dilemma. I've faced it before. I have done a BCS and skipped. I'll let the pros weigh in.

 

[Tanya and Ducia]

Hello - oo, pros!
Where are you?

Bump

 

[Tanya and Ducia]

Right now I'm stalling but what do I do if he doesn't come up appreciably?

Does he act hungry?
Is it reasonable to expect him to eat well when you need it - or is he stuffed with Karo meals from earlier?

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

That's a tough call. Can you monitor tonight if need be. This AM he came up right away and it looked like his nadir is quite early. Hey, this could be the 2nd drop.......

 

[Squalliesmom]

Does he act hungry?
Is it reasonable to expect him to eat well when you need it - or is he stuffed with Karo meals from earlier?

He's always hungry, lol. I can usually get him to eat, especially when it's "Forbidden Foods" and Karo!

 

[Squalliesmom]

That's a tough call. Can you monitor tonight if need be. This AM he came up right away and it looked like his nadir is quite early. Hey, this could be the 2nd drop.......

Well, he came up to 76 so I went ahead and shot a skinny 2.5. Could be a long night...or he could do what he did last night and cruise all night in the 70-80s! Keep your fingers crossed for me!