03/01 Frankie AMBG 243; 349 +3

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Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

That is still close enough to 250 given that all meters have a +/- of 20% but that does show she is still trending downward that is why I say to give her until the weekend to see if she comes down further.

In case no one has said, normal for a cat on a human meter is 40-120 so as long as she is still higher than 120 she is still in diabetic numbers, the 250ish is the renal threshhold or where she starts spilling sugar into her urine, also above that is where organ damage over the long term can begin to happen, so we don't want to leave her up there for very long. But organ damage isn't going to happen overnight either so she can be up there for a little while, so she can hopefully clear the infection, you and her can get use to testing and the diet change can take hold. That way we will have a better idea where to start her so hopefully she doesn't drop too low on you, and make for a very long hypo watch.

I tend to like to err on the side of caution whenever possible. I would rather she be high for a little longer than too low for a moment. High numbers kill slowly, too low can kill quickly.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

Not that I know of but then again, I'm not smart phone savy...hey I'm lucky to be able to check my own email on a desktop...lol

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

Do I have to have a test strip plugged in to check the last time and BG level? or is there a way to turn it on without a strip in there? I'm using the Relion Confirm
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

You should be able to just turn on the meter I don't have the confirm I have the Micro but on the Micro it is the button with the single line that you hold down to turn on the meter without a strip in it. My other meter is the Bayer Contour and on it, it is the M (memory) button.

It should tell you in the booklet that came with the meter how to just turn it on without a strip. Let me see if I can find out for you too, I think I know a couple of folks that use the confirm just got to see if I can get ahold of them

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

Found it...hold both the up and down arrow until you hear a beep that turns it on, if you continue to hold them you will enter set up so let go after you hear the beep.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

Sorry, I was playing legos with Jake until he went to bed. Just tested 299 at +3. Next test will be at +5
 
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MommaOfMuse said:
Found it...hold both the up and down arrow until you hear a beep that turns it on, if you continue to hold them you will enter set up so let go after you hear the beep.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
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Thank you!! I wanted to check times for my book log
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

Hey Dan, I use the ReliOn Prime, too, which has the cheapest strips available on the market ($9 a bottle of 50). It's very user friendly, too. To turn it on, all you have to do is insert the strip. To review past readings, all you need to do is press the center button and use the arrows on either side to scroll the data. It also records the average numbers for the past two weeks. Nifty. I hope your curve goes well! Are you shooting tonight? If you are, it will be PMPS, not PMBG :)
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

No problem if I don't know I usually do know where to find most answers..or at least someone I think might, and then if all else fails Google is my friend.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
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Courtney and Kismet said:
Hey Dan, I use the ReliOn Prime, too, which has the cheapest strips available on the market ($9 a bottle of 50). It's very user friendly, too. To turn it on, all you have to do is insert the strip. To review past readings, all you need to do is press the center button and use the arrows on either side to scroll the data. It also records the average numbers for the past two weeks. Nifty. I hope your curve goes well! Are you shooting tonight? If you are, it will be PMPS, not PMBG :)
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I have the confirm... there are only two buttons on the side and when I hold both it goes into set mode, no matter how fast I release them after the beep... Reading directions now... LOL when in doubt.

I am not shooting tonight because of the Covina shot on Saturday.... the plan ATM is to watch her numbers trend until Saturday, if not consistently below 250 or better then shoot low (0.25)
 
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MommaOfMuse said:
No problem if I don't know I usually do know where to find most answers..or at least someone I think might, and then if all else fails Google is my friend.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
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Google can be your friend or your worst enemy :twisted: I need to trun off the pregnancy forums on my wifes pooter :razz:
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

Sounds like a good idea. Just so you know, when you shoot the first time, you might want to run another curve or get more spot checks to see how Frankie responds to the insulin. Any time there is a new dose, or if insulin is being shot for the fist time, close monitoring is a good idea so you can determine if the dose is too high or too low. This does get easier the longer you do it. I know it's very overwhelming at first, and time consuming, but once you get the hang of it, it all becomes second nature. You are doing an incredible job and learning very quickly! Frankie is lucky to have a Daddy like you.
 
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Sounds like a plan to me. Better to error on the side of caution. And that will give you both a chance to get into a pattern with testing as well. With as much as you have on your plate baby steps will make it easier on everyone.

So when are the twins due? Hey at least you have experience with bottle feeding I saw the baby pictures of Frankie and Molly. I have two bottle babies here as well just mine are tuxes. And both of mine were still borns that we revived. Did have a litter of 6 all still born and all made it, just Duvessa and Myrrdin are the only ones I kept. Momma was a feral that chose to have her babies in the middle of a spring blizzard poor wee mites where frozen stiff, and we scooped them up and rushed them inside warmed them with towels that we kept putting in the dryer and used a blow dryer on them.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

I am just hoping her trends continue, Mommy is out of town, so I'm taking Jake to a B-day Party on Saturday and there is supposed to be a Science Event at the Sea Life Aquarium after that Jake would be really hurt if we didn't go to that. Sunday, I will have to do inspections so it's looking like Monday will be the 1st time I can shoot unless it comes to emergency. I could do Saturday PM, but would I be up all night, or just till the +6?
 
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MommaOfMuse said:
Sounds like a plan to me. Better to error on the side of caution. And that will give you both a chance to get into a pattern with testing as well. With as much as you have on your plate baby steps will make it easier on everyone.

So when are the twins due? Hey at least you have experience with bottle feeding I saw the baby pictures of Frankie and Molly. I have two bottle babies here as well just mine are tuxes. And both of mine were still borns that we revived. Did have a litter of 6 all still born and all made it, just Duvessa and Myrrdin are the only ones I kept. Momma was a feral that chose to have her babies in the middle of a spring blizzard poor wee mites where frozen stiff, and we scooped them up and rushed them inside warmed them with towels that we kept putting in the dryer and used a blow dryer on them.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
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that is very similar to how I found these girls... Appraisal inspection Mid August, 110 degrees and sticky. rough neighborhood, no mama cats in site, home backed to major street and sleazy restaurant... Went to measure the front side and almost stepped on what I thought was a rat (Frankie) Mollie was a foot away...Eyes still shut, umbilical cords still attached... I was going to take them to the shelter, but I fell in love

Twins are due in Mid July... Identical, and probably boys... so that will make 3. Jacob Daniel is our 5 1/2 year old, and the names we have for the twins are Wyatt Anthony and Mason William.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

The sooner you can start, the better. You don't have to do a curve the fist time you shoot, but you will want to get either a +1 or +2, and something close to mid cycle. I rarely test after +6 (if he is in safe numbers) because it means he is starting to climb. The only reason we test so much early in the cycle is to make sure they are in safe numbers and don't drop too low. If you start with a very low dose like .25u, it really shouldn't be a problem, and you can always leave out food which will help keep bg levels up or surfing (staying fairly consistent, within 10 pts). You should be able to shoot on Saturday if you can get a couple of tests in.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250

There is really no way to know because it would depend on how she responds to the insulin, I've seen cats that get no action right away and then I've seen them do like my girl did today drop from 400s to 50 in a cycle, or even as my previous sugarcat go from high 300s to 32 in 3 hours :o That is why we usually unless you are a night bird suggest starting on a day when you will be up and around to monitor.

She will be fine until Monday if you need to wait until then to start insulin. Jake is a priority too,so take the little man to his party and to the aquarium and start Frankie on monday is you need to.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

I'm defiantly not a night Owl.... starting to fade as it is and it's only 9...I'll probably stay up til 10 for test and then set an alarm for 12 so I get a +5 and +7. I do want to start her asap when we determine that we need to, so if it's Sunday, then I inspect Monday.... I have 3 reports to finish tomorrow though which means 'll be home all day, so I don't know if that is too early, but tomorrow would be ideal
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

I think you should be fine to start tomorrow if you can get a couple of cycle checks before you leave for the party. You're also going to want to determine a good time for you to shoot and feed, because you're going to have to shoot/feed every 12 hours the same time every day. So, if you decide to shoot/feed at 6am, you will need to shoot/feed at 6pm. See what Mel thinks, but I think you should be fine to go ahead and start.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

Courtney and Kismet said:
I think you should be fine to start tomorrow if you can get a couple of cycle checks before you leave for the party. You're also going to want to determine a good time for you to shoot and feed, because you're going to have to shoot/feed every 12 hours the same time every day. So, if you decide to shoot/feed at 6am, you will need to shoot/feed at 6pm. See what Mel thinks, but I think you should be fine to go ahead and start.
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Party is on Saturday... I think the party is at 12...but I need to confirm... Watching family guy to pass time... So I'm on tablet
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

If you will be home all day tomorrow then lets shoot for getting her started then, as I will be around all day tomorrow as well so I can help watch for her. That way you will have some data on her before the party on Saturday. What I usually do when I first start a cat on insulin is get my preshot, then a +3, +6 and +9 kind of a mini curve that usually tells me about where their onset is, were nadir is likely to be as well as how fast they are going to go back up.

Now tomorrow night after about 4pm to about 7pm I won't be here, tomorrow is payday and kitty food stock up etc. But I will try to check in several times in the evening to see how she is doing. Weekends can be pretty dicey too on how much I'm around but again since I will know we have a kitty new to insulin on the board I will try to check in as much as possible just to keep an eye on you both.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

My goodness Dan, you have a lot going on this weekend, plus needing to wait to see how the Convenia pans out. A lot on your plate for sure.

Sounds like a great time with the young man. :-D

I'm sure kitty won't mind a day or 2 until things get settled. cat_pet_icon
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

Or we can wait and start Monday its your choice....it isn't going to do any harm to wait a couple more days to get her started. My little Autumn went 10+ months before I adopted her and started her on insulin and she is still trying hard to go into remission, and she was way higher in the beginning than Frankie so you make the call...Either tomorrow or Monday.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

I will be around tomorrow night. I don't have as much experience as Mel, but I can check in and be here for you if you need someone on. I've dealt with low numbers enough to know what to do, so if Mel thinks it's okay, I am more than happy to check in and help out if you need someone.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

Cortney no offense and I do appreciate the offer to watch out for Dan and Frankie but lets let Dan make the call...he knows his schedule better than we do...Either way is fine, what matters most is what he is the most comfortable doing right now. Frankie will be fine until Monday if that works better for his schedule, or he can start tomorrow and we can tag team keeping an eye out for him if that works better.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

We should probably wait until Monday... Weekend s are stupid crazy for me and I typically around most of the day.. If not... In and out, but I control my weekday schedule... Weekends are out of my hands, or I have a day full of inspections... Sorry for any typos....
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

Then Monday it is, and I'm sure between Myself, Courtney and Jesse (Cedric's mom) you will have plenty of experienced eyes to keep you both safe and get you off to a great start :-D

I know exactly what you mean about crazy weekends ...my husband is a bass player in a local band so if they are gigging my weekends are upside down and completely nuts. Much better to start when you have plenty of time just in case she decides to dive super low, nothing worse than having to go on a hypo watch and feeling pressured to be somewhere else as well. I don't expect her to, but rather be safe than sorry.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3

Mel and Dan,

Please forgive me if I am interfering at all. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, or contradict any advice you offer to Dan. That's why I keep deferring to you and qualifying my advice as just that, advice. I guess I thought it would be okay for me to chime in since you said everyone in RL are equals and there are no experts. I am not trying to tell Dan what to do, or interfere at all with the plan of action that he decides on. I just want to help, and if I can be of service, I am more than happy to help when I can. If you're not comfortable with this, or don't think I have enough experience, I will hang back and only offer support. I wasn't trying to pressure him into shooting tomorrow, so I apologize if it comes across that way. I read that you weren't going to be around for a few hours, so I thought I'd offer to fill in while you were out if he decided to shoot. That's all... just trying to help.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

I posted in the TR condo you have there, Dan.

I actually agree with Courtney that you should start insulin sooner rather than later. The longer a cat is at these numbers, the greater chance they become more insulin resistant. Especially since you don't really know how long she has been diabetic. We have a saying in FDMB...Every Cat Is Different ..ECID and Frankie might react differently to being at these numbers then another cat would.

I left you additional info on the TR condo.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

I'm, pretty experienced in forums for research on a particular topic... All advice that is given is taken into consideration and then I compile my plan of action based on my comfort with the situation, my expertise on the subject (slim to none here), the availability of resources and time. Everyone here has good input and I do not make snap decisions. I want to make the best decision for Frankie. Based on what I have learned so far, and the way her numbers are tracking... and a lot has to do with the way she is looking and acting (complete 180 from DX) I am comfortable waiting until I can for sure be around to monitor the injection. A plan to test her again around 12 am and based on the curve I have seen so far, it looks like she will be in the 240 to 250 range. There is no food around to spike right now. I gave her 2 small fd chicken pieces after test, but that's about what I give her after each test. I imagine by AMBG she will be in the low 200s if the trend continues. (Being a real estate appraiser, I look at trends daily, so I am using some trending experience). Everyone has been of great help and no one should feel like they are over stepping their bounds here. I spoke to several friends who are either diabetic, have diabetic children or animals and I know the consequences of making snap decisions here. I need to analyse every aspect, timing, trending, comfort of patient and provider, respects of my other loved ones, etc.... nothing here is being done without full comprehension....

The fact is, My baby is still alive, she is thriving and I owe it all to you all!! So don't sweat it :cool:
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

Hey Dan,
There's no big all rush, seriously. Waiting until Monday if that's the best day that you will be around to monitor and watch her on the first day of insulin is wise. Do what feels best for you and your schedules.

There is no right time, this sooner rather than later is silly. For someone to suggest you must start immediately is foolhardy, and I doubt that anyone here started their cat on insulin on a day when they'd be in and out, unable to be around to monitor the initial reaction to insulin. Three days, that's all. Wait if you feel the need.

For sure nobody knows how long their cat's been a diabetic, and a 3 day wait will not make a big difference in any insulin resistance.
 
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Blue said:
For sure nobody knows how long their cat's been a diabetic
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What do you mean.... it was the day after Halloween when she ate all Jakes candy right? J/K :lol: Here's the deal I can start her tomorrow and I can be around all day to monitor, or I test through the weekend and see what her numbers do, but no way can I shoot on Saturday or Sunday because I would not be around to monitor her first injection. Monday would be the soonest after tomorrow....Also... I have Ketone tests, but I have now idea how I'm going to get a reliable sample... I never know when she is going to the bathroom. We have a litter box upstairs and downstairs. I would have to keep her in the bathroom to keep her in one litter box.... I guess I could just check on her every 15 minutes... but holy He** thats going to wreak havoc on the fact that I have 3 reports to finish tomorrow... mind you all 3 have been put off because of this and are late ATM... If I lose my source of income this is all futile...
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

Damn that halloween candy!! :lol: Glad you can keep your sense of humor, it helps. :-D

Hopefully, the world won't end between now and Monday. :lol:

I'm 'shopping', trying to find vitamins for my Lucian. Helps me stay awake for 1 more test. :o

I don't normally do this, but his numbers have been whacky tonight, due to an apparent upset tummy that messed up his schedule this morning, so I just don't want to risk it.

Have a good night!
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

Still not sure if everyone making the recommendation to go sooner than later has considered the covenia shot on 2/23. I'd like to get some feed back here.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

Gee, I thought that was the biggest reason to wait, to see if the antibiotic clearing up the infection, would reduce her BG levels?

You just happen to have a ton of stuff you need to do over the weekend on top of it. :o I dunno, being only 8 weeks in, there's too much I haven't learned yet. :sad: Wish I could help more.

I generally stick to being a 'cheering section'. :lol: About all I can help with is testing and diet, the newbee stuff. :-D
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

nckitties3 said:
Gee, I thought that was the biggest reason to wait, to see if the antibiotic clearing up the infection, would reduce her BG levels?

You just happen to have a ton of stuff you need to do over the weekend on top of it. :o I dunno, being only 8 weeks in, there's too much I haven't learned yet. :sad: Wish I could help more.

I generally stick to being a 'cheering section'. :lol: About all I can help with is testing and diet, the newbee stuff. :-D
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Some are thinking that it may have not been a UTI after all.... Idk.... what I do know is I'm testing in 20 mins and crawling in bed... I hate being up this late... I am not a coffee person, my poison is diet coke, but if I drink now, I'd be cracked out all night @-)
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

272... so probably start dose tomorrow morning 6 am? Oie 5:30 is not looking good...
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

I have another hour yet :sad:

Mel is usually on about 8am EST, I know she's an hr different from me, which is EST. That would be her 7am. Don't know what the difference is between you two. But I would suggest you have someone around to answer any questions you might have.

Get some rest. I-) I-) I-)
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

Dan and Frankie said:
Still not sure if everyone making the recommendation to go sooner than later has considered the covenia shot on 2/23. I'd like to get some feed back here.
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Well, to address the Convenia thing..... I think people who had issues saw the bad reaction within a few days, say like an allergy, but yours was a week ago, so if no big issues by now, it may be OK.
Here's the deal according to Dr. Lisa's site... I love her site.
http://www.catinfo.org/?link=convenia

http://www.drugs.com/vet/convenia.html

There's a facebook page with many posts on how some animals were affected.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Convenia ... 7391502152

There's plenty to find on the topic, and even one of my cats was given convenia shot after her dental, and I freaked about that, but she was perfectly fine.... after a week, I think you should be OK, but have the vet file marked NO CONVENIA and NO METACAM

About starting insulin....with Lantus and Levemir, there's the shed to fill so the first day may be a non-event, but that's not a guarantee, so I think I'd want to be around to monitor, test and track how it's going. I would want to see how my cat reacts, if at all.
So I would wait until I would be around to watch my cat, and test to see if there is a reaction to my starting dose.

If you want to start tomorrow, that's fine. I would not worry about the time because it takes a few hours for the cat to react to a shot, and if you have any questions, you can post in Health and there's usually people around who can help.
 
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Blue said:
About starting insulin....with Lantus and Levemir, there's the shed to fill so the first day may be a non-event, but that's not a guarantee, so I think I'd want to be around to monitor, test and track how it's going. I would want to see how my cat reacts, if at all.
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If there is no reaction today and there is tomorrow I have a huge problem in being able to monitor her. Getting ready for AMPS or BG... Depending on what I decide.
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

Dan

Neither of my 2 diabetics were started on insulin immediately Maxwell has been in remission for over 2 years and Autumn who went 10+ months before she began treatment because I adopted them both as an untreated diabetic....If Monday is better for you then that is when to start. Both of mine were adopted as diabetics when their original owners elected to euthanize rather than treat.

As Blue and I both have said 3 days one way or the other isn't going to matter...what is going to matter is that you are around to monitor because we have no idea how she is going to react to that first shot, and starting on a day when you need to be in and out isn't the day to do it.

Courtney, I repeatedly thanked you for your offer to help...But I did feel that you being a bit pushy about when Dan needed to start insulin after he explained what all was on his plate...I was simply giving him his options and allowing him to make the call as to when he wanted to begin. You weren't stepping on anyone's toes and I appreciate your offer to help should he decide to start on a day that I may not be around to help him.

So again Dan it is your call...whenever you are the most comfortable to start the insulin is fine...Frankie will be fine as well as long as she is still eating and drinking with all 5 of her Ps in place (peeing, pooping, preening, Playing, & purring).

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

She tested at 243 this morning. I know that it looks like she has flattened out. I am still seeing improvement in her physical attributes. I have again decided to wait until Monday to shoot because I am afraid that toady may be a non event day while the Lantus Depots... If that happens then the active cycle may be on Saturday or Sunday which I will not be able to monitor closely. If I take the weekend and get all my fieldwork and family commitments done, I will be home most of the 1st part of next week and then I will be able to monitor if the is active right away, or depots and has an active cycle the next day or two. I think this is better for both mine and Frankie's stress levels too. The improvements I have seen are 180 from where she was and I don't think 2 days of her getting used to the new diet and testing (routine) are going to hurt one bit. Thanks and I will keep everyone updated on her numbers as I will continue to test as I have been (before and +2 to +3 after meals). 5 P's are all there :-D
 
Re: 02/28 Frankie AMBG 314 PMBG 250; 316 +1; 299 +3; 270 +5

You and you alone know what is best for you and Frankie. And we will be right here when you are ready to get her started. I do agree that a couple more days isn't going to hurt one bit, as long as she is still improving and getting into the new routine of things.

I know I am always more comfortable in starting insulin on a day when I know I have nothing better to do than stare at my cat. :-D Especially with no higher than she is, now if she was say where my Autumn started out when I got her at 528 and already having moderate ketones I would be pushing you harder to get her on insulin asap, because Autumn truly was a disaster waiting to happen in fact I am still surprised that she survived long enough to find her way into my heart and home.

The only thing I would like to see you add to the routine over the weekend since you are waiting until Monday to start her, is try to get a couple ketone tests in...I don't expect her to be throwing ketones but better to check those as well than have her headed for DKA, and because every cat is different some are more prone to them than others..So might as well add that to the routine while you are getting everything in place. Again better to error on the side of caution just to be safe.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
 
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MommaOfMuse said:
If you will be home all day tomorrow then lets shoot for getting her started then, as I will be around all day tomorrow as well so I can help watch for her. That way you will have some data on her before the party on Saturday. What I usually do when I first start a cat on insulin is get my preshot, then a +3, +6 and +9 kind of a mini curve that usually tells me about where their onset is, were nadir is likely to be as well as how fast they are going to go back up.

Now tomorrow night after about 4pm to about 7pm I won't be here, tomorrow is payday and kitty food stock up etc. But I will try to check in several times in the evening to see how she is doing. Weekends can be pretty dicey too on how much I'm around but again since I will know we have a kitty new to insulin on the board I will try to check in as much as possible just to keep an eye on you both.

Mel, Maxwell, Autumn & The Fur Gang
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Mel, I do believe you were the one who suggested that he shoot today. I never told him when to shoot... I said the sooner the better, and if he wanted to start today, that it should be okay. Go back and reread the thread... I never pushed him to shoot today. When I offered to help today, if he decided to shoot, I was responding to the above quoted post by you. Let's just be clear about this... somewhere, you misconstrued my words. Nowhere did I tell Dan what to do!

Dan, I wish you all the best on whatever you decide to. There are a lot of people here who are willing to help you, and will support whatever decisions you make.
 
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MommaOfMuse said:
The only thing I would like to see you add to the routine over the weekend since you are waiting until Monday to start her, is try to get a couple ketone tests in..
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I will try to put her in the box and cat some pee to run a test of two. I don't know when she is in the box most of the time, but When I have some time, I'll stick her in a clean box and see if I can catch some in some tin foil.
 
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