01/30/18 Texas Gizmo PMPS=127, +2=89, +3.5=54, +4=53, +4.5=60, +5.5=84. +11=102

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LizzieInTexas

LizzieInTexas

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01/29 +11=126

AMPS=124

Hubby did get him to eat eventually last night. I have no idea when. He stayed up till +5.5 and I went to bed before that.

I am 99% it is a battle with me - reason being when I am not here (AM cycle/work) he is eating. He also had another nice poo overnight.

Not going to give any meds today (other than the MMR at PS meals). I am also going to change up food tonight. I am not going to give him as much food - in the hopes that he is hungrier and will eat. I have to break this cycle and unless hubby will step up and take over the evenings for a bit I don't know what else to do. DH just has the attitude that it is "my" problem and he doesn't see the issue.
 
It's awful when they won't eat. I've resorted lately to giving Girlie a tiny bit of Mirtazapine just to get more food into her. She just isn't interested in eating when it's hot out.

I hope DH can help. This sounds like a tricky and difficult situation for you two and Gizmo. Gizmo, please cooperate! Be good for mom!

How does Gizmo react to appetite stimulants like Mirtazapine? Could that possibly help just to kick start things? I'm sure you've tried that sort of thing already, though...
 
I have Cyproheptadine. I have given it one time. I think I gave him a whole pill. It really doped Gizmo up but he was also on other meds (pain, canna) Can I split the pill (or 1/4 it)? How long does it normally last? I read here recently that it is longer lasting than Mirtz? How long does it take to start taking affect?

I won't give it unless I will be here to monitor.
 
Girlie's mom said:
How does Gizmo react to appetite stimulants like Mirtazapine? Could that possibly help just to kick start things? I'm sure you've tried that sort of thing already, though..
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I have given 1/2 pill and it makes him loving and purry and vocal and seems to help a bit with the appy but not like previously when I gave it to him. Then I shaved off 1/4 pill and got it in him by mixing with some fish based food and symptoms were not as server but neither was eating. Tried that again last night and he wouldn't eat the food with it mixed in. :banghead: I can't get the pill cut into 1/4 without it crumbling.
 
Hi Lizzie, I know how frustrating it is when they don't eat for you. If you feel it's a battle between you and Gizmo then he could be feeling your anxiety at meal time about his not eating. Remember when we first started off here and were nervous about testing and someone said to sing a little song to help calm yourself and kitty at poke time? Maybe a little jingle will help lighten the atmosphere a bit.

Glad that Sandy knew the answers for the cyproheptaden. Good luck if you try a small amount.

Sending lots of appy vines to Gizmo.


Yo, Gizmo, yor killin yor momma, knock it off Dude ~ Bubba
 
Shoeskitty said:
Have you tried a pill splitter? They work really well. Shoes gets 1/4 cyproheptaden about every 4-5 days. It usually starts working in him in 1 to 2 hours. It is safe to give daily 2 X day if needed.
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Thank you. I have a good pill splitter and it works well. The Mirtz is just so small to begin with. I may try the cypro again. His reaction to it the first time scared me but may try 1/4 tab.
 
Yes. Same med. It can cause drowsiness or more vocalizations as it is an antihistamine. It caused Shoes to "talk" more when we first started using it but not now. Dosing is based on weight and Shoes weighs a little under 10 pounds. That why he only gets 1/4 pill.
 
Hello Lizzie, it looks like Gizmo's (love that name) is on several meds, just like my Dante is on several heart meds daily. Some of the meds have such a nasty taste, so my vet suggested chicken flavored gel caps, I tried it, but the extra cost didn't warrant a second purchase. Now I just buy plain gel caps. However, I also bought a capsule filling machine and since they just came out with a tamper for powdered meds, I bought that as well.

Here is the link to the company that I buy my gel caps and filling machine from: https://www.herbaffair.com/collections/capsule-filling-supplies. If you do buy gel caps, confirm if you add several pills into 1 gel cap that they can be combined safely without side effects! In a gel cap, Little Gizmo won't have any taste or smell after-affects, it is a godsend with Dante! I hope this helps
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You can also buy it without the tamper if you don't use powdered meds. (Presses powder into gel caps). I actually called and spoke with the wife of the inventor of this genius device, her husband is a veteran who is on multiple meds so he created this plastic machine. It used to take me several hours to fill 25 gel caps with powdered meds, now I fill 50 in about 20 minutes!
 
:bighug: Oh, Lizzie! I'm sorry for your frustration. I'm giving Maggie 1/8 of a cypro, but she is 6 pounds. And right now it's not doing to much to up the appy, so I might have to increase to 1/4. I'm glad Carol told you about gel caps. That's what I'm doing now and it makes it much easier. I just bought a bunch and I'm happy to send you some to try if you want. The size I have is number 3, which is big enough to add other meds if necessary, but small enough for a cat. They make smaller sizes, but they would be hard to work with I think.
 
Yes, I use a size 2 for meds and fish oil. I dip each capsule into the canned food gravy that I make from adding a few drops of water, and stick it into the side of Dante's mouth and he wallows it so easily! SOOOOO much easier! If I don't moisten the gel caps first, it sticks to his mouth and he spits it out...
 
Oh, I forgot to add, when Dante came out of the hospital for heart failure, he wouldn't eat for several days, so the Mirtz worked like a charm, but the vet also told me to give chicken baby food (in the little bottles), he ate that right up, totally shocked!! Ask your vet if this would be an option...
 
Carol & Dante said:
Hello Lizzie, it looks like Gizmo's (love that name) is on several meds, just like my Dante is on several heart meds daily. Some of the meds have such a nasty taste, so my vet suggested chicken flavored gel caps, I tried it, but the extra cost didn't warrant a second purchase. Now I just buy plain gel caps. However, I also bought a capsule filling machine and since they just came out with a tamper for powdered meds, I bought that as well.
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Thanks for the info. I have used gel-caps but the supplements I just add to his food and it has never been an issue. (B-12, B-Complex and Cosequin). The actual meds I pill him and, for the most part, he is good about taking those and they are on an as-need basis.

With the Mirtz that I tried mixing with food - I did that once only because the pill crumbled when I tried to cut it in 1/2 (it was a 1/2 tab that I tried to cut in 1/2 again). They are so small.

That capsule filling gadget is pretty nifty and not too expensive either. How do you get the powder into the capsules? How do you ensure correct dosing for each capsule?

Alicia & Maggie said:
The size I have is number 3, which is big enough to add other meds if necessary, but small enough for a cat.
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I use the emptied Canna capsules - the Canna I sprinkle on fish based food and he gobbles that up (usually). I just save the empties and use them for the pills or I add the pills to a 1/2 empty capsule and he gets 1/2 cap of Canna along with the meds. And, of course, the pain med is liquid.
 
Judy told me to put cerenia in the freezer for 10 minutes to help it split without crumbling, so you might try that with cypro. If it does crumble it doesn't matter if you are putting it in a gel cap anyway.
 
For the filling machine, it comes with a plastic credit card holder card, you pour the powder after filling each hole with a gel cap, then spread the powder with the plastic card. Originally, I used chopsticks to push the powder down and repeated the process. To unsure I have correct dosage, I had bought the pill form of the medicine, then crushed it and poured into the capsule. I then called the powdered med company and we both calculated exactly how much powder goes into 1 capsule, taking into consideration the density of the powder in relation to the density of the pill crushed into powder. Before choosing the capsule size, I checked the volume each would hold and found the right one. Sounds complicated, but calling the pharmacist to help you with dosing weight and volume, I am sure that would be a viable option as well. The powder I buy comes in a tub, so I just pour it out from a tiny cut hole I made into the lid...
 
I hope he eats better for you soon and the cypro works. I have it in my now massive cat pharmacy but I’ve yet to need it so far. I got it compounded in to a liquid, so it would be easier to give a little less or a little more without the frustration of pill splitting, maybe that’s an option for you as well?
 
Tracey&Jones said:
PS: I thought I was the only one that lost a kitchen cabinet to meds, pills, treats, syringes etc.
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Don't forget the shelf in the refrigerator :p

And the month supply of litter.

PMPS=127

History:
AMPS=124, +2=115

He ate all of his AM cycle fudz. All.Of.It.

So....

New attitude. I don't care if he eats or not - as long as he is in safe numbers. I am NOT going to stress.

It almost looks like my boy went and got himself regulated. Maybe that is why his eating habits have changed?
 
LizzieInTexas said:
01/29 +11=126

AMPS=124

Hubby did get him to eat eventually last night. I have no idea when. He stayed up till +5.5 and I went to bed before that.

I am 99% it is a battle with me - reason being when I am not here (AM cycle/work) he is eating. He also had another nice poo overnight.

Not going to give any meds today (other than the MMR at PS meals). I am also going to change up food tonight. I am not going to give him as much food - in the hopes that he is hungrier and will eat. I have to break this cycle and unless hubby will step up and take over the evenings for a bit I don't know what else to do. DH just has the attitude that it is "my" problem and he doesn't see the issue.
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DH sounds like he's fed up with it all. Well, tough nookies!
 
Kathy and TiTi said:
Well, tough nookies!
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My sediments exactly. He gets up and tfs on Sunday AM and will occasionally test if I ask him to (so I can run to the grocery, getting my nails done, or if I need to go to bed before +4.5, etc.) but I do everything else. Mix up food, dishes, clean the litter box, buy all the food, supplements, meds, etc. and get up Monday-Saturday @ 3:20a.
 
LizzieInTexas said:
01/29 +11=126

AMPS=124

Hubby did get him to eat eventually last night. I have no idea when. He stayed up till +5.5 and I went to bed before that.

I am 99% it is a battle with me - reason being when I am not here (AM cycle/work) he is eating. He also had another nice poo overnight.

Not going to give any meds today (other than the MMR at PS meals). I am also going to change up food tonight. I am not going to give him as much food - in the hopes that he is hungrier and will eat. I have to break this cycle and unless hubby will step up and take over the evenings for a bit I don't know what else to do. DH just has the attitude that it is "my" problem and he doesn't see the issue.
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DH did step up last night, right? So maybe he'll get over this uncooperative phase. Meanwhile, I do recommend the mirtazapine, or the cypro. Hugs
 
Kathy and TiTi said:
DH did step up last night, right? So maybe he'll get over this uncooperative phase. Meanwhile, I do recommend the mirtazapine, or the cypro. Hugs
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Yes. I went to bed and he did test and did manage to get him to eat but neither of us were his favorite pals this morning. :rolleyes:
 
Lizzie , is baby food an option ? If necessary I will syringe feed Elmo baby food from time to time to kick start his appy . My heart and prayers go out to you and Gizmo ...big prayers for an improved appy :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Good idea about the baby food. It will just about always get Bubba eating. I always have some on my cat shelf.

Appy vines to Gizmo!
 
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