? 01/23 Merry - Long Night Keeping Him Safe :(

[LuanneP]

Well, well, Mr Merry is just full of surprises this year

He was yellow yesterday as expected after his NS on Sunday night. He started yellow today and again at +4 but by +7 had dropped to 131 and at +11 he's still dropping and he's 88.

I really don't want to shoot a dropping number because as they say, it's not the PMPS value we're shooting it's the number a couple hours later so if he keeps dropping I could be up with him all night to keep him safe. I'll check him again at +11.5 to see if he's still dropping.

 

[Sylvie]

our diabetic vet specialist told us no shooting under a 100 but, that's using a pet meter. my freestyle meter regularly reads about 30-40 below the Alphatrak2 readings so i guess that would mean using human freestyle meter, that would mean no shooting under 70 to be safe and i was told only half dose for anything between 100-150 (70-120 for FS meter i would guess)..

 

[tiffmaxee]

You can stall and don’t feed. See if he starts to go up. 88 is safe to shoot if doing TR and a human meter. Most shoot anything over 50 provided you can monitor and have supplies.

 

[LuanneP]

Merry is 77 now at +11.5 so still dropping. If he weren't dropping I'd be ok shooting that number but when it's a dropping number it's worrisome.

 

[tiffmaxee]

So stall and see. How off schedule can you shoot if he starts to come up?

 

[LuanneP]

I can't stall much otherwise I'll be late for work in the morning. It's difficult when this happens on a week night instead of the weekend, LOL!

 

[Wendy&Neko]

He's not dropping fast. You have shot lower numbers. See Jan 14th.

 

[LuanneP]

But not dropping numbers. With him hitting lime greens more often now it's worrisome & I can't monitor him all night long because I have to work in the morning.

 

[LuanneP]

If he's not much lower I'll give him his shot & check at +2 & +3 and again at +6 I guess & hopefully he'll be in safe numbers.

 

[Wendy&Neko]

He was dropping on the 14th.

 

[Juliet]

I can't stall much otherwise I'll be late for work in the morning. It's difficult when this happens on a week night instead of the weekend, LOL!

I hear you!

 

[LuanneP]

Not consistently though. He went up from +8 to +11.5 and just PMPS was a bit lower on the 14th. This one is a steady drop it seems.
I'm going to shoot if it's not much lower when I check again & keep our paws crossed.

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

It will be ok.

 

[LuanneP]

70 at PMPS

 

[LuanneP]

I'll check him at +1.

 

[Juliet]

70 at PMPS

I’m glad I’m following SLGS. I’d never shoot that low.

 

[Stacy & Asia]

Did you shoot? Merry sure is keeping you busy. Hang in there, he’s doing great.

 

[tiffmaxee]

I’m glad I’m following SLGS. I’d never shoot that low.

Once you get used to it you get upset when you see a blue preshot. Usually you get a flat healing cycle.

 

[Juliet]

Once you get used to it you get upset when you see a blue preshot. Usually you get a flat healing cycle.

Thankfuly I won’t ever have to get used to it following SLGS means no shooting below 90. I managed to get him OTJ for three years never having shot a green.

 

[LuanneP]

Did you shoot? Merry sure is keeping you busy. Hang in there, he’s doing great.

Yes, he got his shot. I'll check him at +1, +2 and +3 and I'll get up at +6. Hopefully he's ok & I don't have to stay up trying to keep him safe. I honestly cannot function in the morning when I'm up during the night & then usually end up calling in sick to work. I'm a person who needs uninterrupted sleep so it's been really hard getting up during the night to check Merry's blood.

 

[tiffmaxee]

Thankfuly I won’t ever have to get used to it following SLGS means no shooting below 90. I managed to get him OTJ for three years never having shot a green.

So have others. OTJ wasn’t possible for Max with his years of pancreatitis but I was happy to keep him tightly regulated and within renal threshold.

 

[Christie & Maverick]

Yes, he got his shot. I'll check him at +1, +2 and +3 and I'll get up at +6. Hopefully he's ok & I don't have to stay up trying to keep him safe. I honestly cannot function in the morning when I'm up during the night & then usually end up calling in sick to work. I'm a person who needs uninterrupted sleep so it's been really hard getting up during the night to check Merry's blood.

I understand Luanne, you are doing an amazing job , let's hope Merry will have a nice flat green cycle.

 

[Christie & Maverick]

How is Merry doing so far? Hope he's settled into the cycle. No shenanigans, Merry, your mama bean needs some rest tonight .

 

[LuanneP]

He's ok so far. +1 86, +2 83. But Merry will seem to be ok & then drop suddenly later in the cycle. He keeps me guessing most of the time. I'm checking him again shortly which will be +3.5 & then I need to go to bed because it will be after midnight.

 

[LuanneP]

Shoot! He’s at 54 now argh!!

 

[LuanneP]

At +3.5 Merry was 54 so I gave him a bit of corn syrup & HC gravy. I could have continued to let him drop so he could have officially earned a reduction on paper which he would have but I didn't want to be up all night long and it was midnight at that point. At +4.75 he was 115 from the corn syrup & HC gravy so I slept for about 1.5 hrs & then he was 76 at +6.25. To be safe & because I needed to sleep I gave him a bit more corn syrup & HC food and slept until +10. He's now at 88.

I am going to reduce Merry to 3.5u because if I hadn't of carbed him up at +3.5 he would have kept dropping & earned a reduction on paper. I don't like that we have to push them hypo to give them a reduction so I'm giving it to him & if he doesn't hold it I will increase again. Not a big deal if I have to increase. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Next time he has dropping numbers at PMPS on a night that I cannot be awake all night I am either going to do a NS or a reduced dose. As others have said many times it's not the PS number we're shooting, it's the number at onset, and if I hadn't of kept checking Merry or if my alarm didn't wake me up to check him at different times (which I am known to sleep through my alarms quite often) he would not have been safe. It's not worth the risk for Merry & I cannot be up all night long several nights each week.

I am also dealing with a sick kitty, my almost 16 yr old boy hadn't eaten since Monday morning & was throwing up until Monday night. I took him to the vet yesterday for blood work & we'll have those results back today. I gave him Cerenia Mon night which helped the vomitting (or maybe he wasn't going to vomit anymore since there was nothing left to come back up) and I gave him another Cerenia last night just to be safe. He still didn't want to eat so I gave him Mirtazapine & he has been eating since last night & so far hasn't thrown up so hopefully he's not going to. He does have early stage CKD & his last blood work in Sept wasn't terrible, but maybe his CKD has progressed a bit or maybe he was just having an off couple of days (altho he never throws up & he always eats). The vet will call today with his blood work results & hopefully that will give us some answers. Otherwise if he's still not eating once the Mirt wears off or if he starts vomiting again he'll probably need another ultrasound. I was stressed over him yesterday so Merry throwing me some lower numbers than expected really didn't help.

 

[Stacy & Asia]

I’m sorry about your civvie, I hope you get some answers.

Good luck with the dosecrease and I hope Merry is low drama for you today.

 

[Juliet]

At +3.5 Merry was 54 so I gave him a bit of corn syrup & HC gravy. I could have continued to let him drop so he could have officially earned a reduction on paper which he would have but I didn't want to be up all night long and it was midnight at that point. At +4.75 he was 115 from the corn syrup & HC gravy so I slept for about 1.5 hrs & then he was 76 at +6.25. To be safe & because I needed to sleep I gave him a bit more corn syrup & HC food and slept until +10. He's now at 88.

I am going to reduce Merry to 3.5u because if I hadn't of carbed him up at +3.5 he would have kept dropping & earned a reduction on paper. I don't like that we have to push them hypo to give them a reduction so I'm giving it to him & if he doesn't hold it I will increase again. Not a big deal if I have to increase. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Next time he has dropping numbers at PMPS on a night that I cannot be awake all night I am either going to do a NS or a reduced dose. As others have said many times it's not the PMPS number we're shooting, it's the number at onset, and if I hadn't of kept checking Merry or if my alarm didn't wake me up to check him at different times (which I am known to sleep through my alarms quite often) he would not have been safe. It's not worth the risk for Merry & I cannot be up all night long several nights each week.

I am also dealing with a sick kitty, my almost 16 yr old boy hadn't eaten since Monday morning & was throwing up until Monday night. I took him to the vet yesterday for blood work & we'll have those results back today. I gave him Cerenia Mon night which helped the vomitting (or maybe he wasn't going to vomit anymore since there was nothing left to come back up) and I gave him another Cerenia last night just to be safe. He still didn't want to eat so I gave him Mirtazapine & he has been eating since last night & so far hasn't thrown up so hopefully he's not going to. He does have early stage CKD & his last blood work in Sept wasn't terrible, but maybe his CKD has progressed a bit or maybe he was just having an off couple of days (altho he never throws up & he always eats). The vet will call today with his blood work results & hopefully that will give us some answers. Otherwise if he's still not eating once the Mirt wears off or if he starts vomiting again he'll probably need another ultrasound. I was stressed over him yesterday so Merry throwing me some lower numbers than expected really didn't help.

100% agree with you. I would not have shot last night. Fine if you can stay up all night setting alarms to monitor as many on here do but you can’t afford to risk your job (or your health) with too many sick days or being too tired.

 

[Pamela & Amethyst]

I can relate You are doing great!

 

[Myagi (GA) and Heidi]

At +3.5 Merry was 54 so I gave him a bit of corn syrup & HC gravy. I could have continued to let him drop so he could have officially earned a reduction on paper which he would have but I didn't want to be up all night long and it was midnight at that point. At +4.75 he was 115 from the corn syrup & HC gravy so I slept for about 1.5 hrs & then he was 76 at +6.25. To be safe & because I needed to sleep I gave him a bit more corn syrup & HC food and slept until +10. He's now at 88.

I am going to reduce Merry to 3.5u because if I hadn't of carbed him up at +3.5 he would have kept dropping & earned a reduction on paper. I don't like that we have to push them hypo to give them a reduction so I'm giving it to him & if he doesn't hold it I will increase again. Not a big deal if I have to increase. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Next time he has dropping numbers at PMPS on a night that I cannot be awake all night I am either going to do a NS or a reduced dose. As others have said many times it's not the PMPS number we're shooting, it's the number at onset, and if I hadn't of kept checking Merry or if my alarm didn't wake me up to check him at different times (which I am known to sleep through my alarms quite often) he would not have been safe. It's not worth the risk for Merry & I cannot be up all night long several nights each week.

I am also dealing with a sick kitty, my almost 16 yr old boy hadn't eaten since Monday morning & was throwing up until Monday night. I took him to the vet yesterday for blood work & we'll have those results back today. I gave him Cerenia Mon night which helped the vomitting (or maybe he wasn't going to vomit anymore since there was nothing left to come back up) and I gave him another Cerenia last night just to be safe. He still didn't want to eat so I gave him Mirtazapine & he has been eating since last night & so far hasn't thrown up so hopefully he's not going to. He does have early stage CKD & his last blood work in Sept wasn't terrible, but maybe his CKD has progressed a bit or maybe he was just having an off couple of days (altho he never throws up & he always eats). The vet will call today with his blood work results & hopefully that will give us some answers. Otherwise if he's still not eating once the Mirt wears off or if he starts vomiting again he'll probably need another ultrasound. I was stressed over him yesterday so Merry throwing me some lower numbers than expected really didn't help.

 

[Fiona & Ruby]

You are doing an AMAZING job with what you've got on your plate. I reckon you're making some good choices with dosing and just keep trusting your instincts with what's happening with Merry and remember he's not going to be doing this dance forever, you're just in the thick of it at the moment but you will come out the other end. Big, big hugs to you and hang in there. I hope the result for civvie come back okay.

 

[Squalliesmom]

our diabetic vet specialist told us no shooting under a 100 but, that's using a pet meter. my freestyle meter regularly reads about 30-40 below the Alphatrak2 readings so i guess that would mean using human freestyle meter, that would mean no shooting under 70 to be safe and i was told only half dose for anything between 100-150 (70-120 for FS meter i would guess)..

@Sylvie A quick word of caution - There is no comparison between AlphaTrak readings and human meter readings. It literally cannot be calculated, it's like apples and oranges. The range of difference changes depending on the numbers, and it is not safe to count on the difference being 30-40 points, as this range will change as the BG rises/falls.

 

[Sylvie]

@Sylvie A quick word of caution - There is no comparison between AlphaTrak readings and human meter readings. It literally cannot be calculated, it's like apples and oranges. The range of difference changes depending on the numbers, and it is not safe to count on the difference being 30-40 points, as this range will change as the BG rises/falls.

yes, i do believe i forgot about that.
i just know for under 200-110 on pet meter, the difference was always 30-40 or so points lower than the AT2 readings on FS meter so i figured that it would be safe to calculate the difference between the pet & human meter (FS only which luanne is using) for low numbers.. do apologize for given unsafe advice.

 

[Squalliesmom]

yes, i do believe i forgot about that.
i just know for under 200-110 on pet meter, the difference was always 30-40 or so points lower than the AT2 readings on FS meter so i figured that it would be safe to calculate the difference between the pet & human meter (FS only which luanne is using) for low numbers.. do apologize for given unsafe advice.

It's all good, I just want to make sure everybody stays safe!