RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
He was shot at 8 PM last night but I messed up the one hour test last one and I text him at 9:22
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? 01/06 JELLY BELLY PMBG ONLY 106 NS
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RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I don't know honestly guys I'm way too tired I can't figure out the spreadsheet I can't do it I'm just going to test his blood sugar's I don't understand this a.m. p.m. right now like my brains a mess it's like the second PJ party in like three days plus I was in the hospital I'm just I'm whooped
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
Is this too much information for me under the circumstances and so tired
Gill & George
Member Since 2015
Don't worry, we can try figure it out later when you are feeling up to it. Don't fret, we've all been there with the sleep exhaustion.
see you later for that +2 (10am) test.
try and catch a nap
Kris & Teasel
Member Since 2016
Not to worry, Rochelle. It's not that important right now. Just follow that list I gave you. Your brain needs a rest. 
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
updated spreed sheet and + 2 is 311 do i fed curve or whats next i am so lost and tired can i sleep? +6 ?Not to worry, Rochelle. It's not that important right now. Just follow that list I gave you. Your brain needs a rest.
Kris & Teasel
Member Since 2016
So far it looks a lot like yesterday's curve even though there was confusion yesterday about AMPS.
Here's what to do:
- give that snack now (if you haven't done so already)
- give it again at +3 so you're following Marje's plan but no test then
- go have a nap if you can
- test again at +6
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
Year he isn't into a snack and he's napping and so am I now too see you at +6 which is 2 pm my time
Kris & Teasel
Member Since 2016
Go ahead - you need a break.
Gill & George
Member Since 2015
I agree with the proposed plan above, but I might try for a +5 instead. He dropped so hard and fast yesterday, if it does pan out the same I would want to catch it a little earlier, gives you a bit more control of the curve.
But most of all try get a nap.
But most of all try get a nap.
Morning ladies! LINK TO YESTERDAY’S CONDO
Rochelle, you have done fantastic!!!! And you've had some great help. I'm so sorry that you had to be up so much but we learned some important things about Jelly:
--the Temptations work really well to help control his BG
--feeding on a schedule last night helped to keep him flat
--he is getting some really nice duration from this dose since he held off the bounce until after +12
I was really hoping he would just stay flat but it's a blessing in disguise for you both that he bounced.
I think (@Gill & George) Gill's point is important. He came back down yesterday fast so he is clearing bounces fast. I would agree it's better to test him at +5.
Is it possible to leave his food out for him or will the other cats eat it? Just thought he could have something to graze on while you sleep.
Once you have had some rest, we can discuss other minor things. Now off to slumberland
@rhiannon and shadow (GA) just a quick note....she's using Temptations, not as treats but to help control the lower BGs or the drops. He is not a big eater and can't be counted on to eat gravy/HC when she needs him to but he will eat the Temptations and they work nicely. Long ago, we had another member, Roni, who used them with Moonie and they worked like a charm.
Rochelle, you have done fantastic!!!! And you've had some great help. I'm so sorry that you had to be up so much but we learned some important things about Jelly:
--the Temptations work really well to help control his BG
--feeding on a schedule last night helped to keep him flat
--he is getting some really nice duration from this dose since he held off the bounce until after +12
I was really hoping he would just stay flat but it's a blessing in disguise for you both that he bounced.
I think (@Gill & George) Gill's point is important. He came back down yesterday fast so he is clearing bounces fast. I would agree it's better to test him at +5.
Is it possible to leave his food out for him or will the other cats eat it? Just thought he could have something to graze on while you sleep.
Once you have had some rest, we can discuss other minor things. Now off to slumberland
@rhiannon and shadow (GA) just a quick note....she's using Temptations, not as treats but to help control the lower BGs or the drops. He is not a big eater and can't be counted on to eat gravy/HC when she needs him to but he will eat the Temptations and they work nicely. Long ago, we had another member, Roni, who used them with Moonie and they worked like a charm.
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RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
Yes his food is out and he is only one in room hasn't been out in main house yet <Jelly hisses at the cats and dogs and gets ioset
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
tested +5 and it was 256
Very good!!! Did you get some rest? Has Jelly eaten all his morning allotment of food? We don't want him to be hungry or lose weight if his weigh is stable. If he hasn't eaten all of his normal amount of LC food, it's ok to give him some now.
He hasn't come down much and I'd like to give his ears a break but he is clearing a bounce which means he will likely continue down and perhaps do another night similar to last night. But he's doing sooooooo much better!!!
Since we don't know when he took the steep dive yesterday, on one hand, I think testing at +7 is smart but OTOH, I'd sure like to give his little ears a break and let him go to +8. Of course, we could split the difference and test at +7.5.
What would you like to do, Rochelle?
I fixed his SS and also added a "time" column so you put the exact time you shot. That helps many members and I did it for a while as well with Gracie. Let me know if you don't like it.
He hasn't come down much and I'd like to give his ears a break but he is clearing a bounce which means he will likely continue down and perhaps do another night similar to last night. But he's doing sooooooo much better!!!
Since we don't know when he took the steep dive yesterday, on one hand, I think testing at +7 is smart but OTOH, I'd sure like to give his little ears a break and let him go to +8. Of course, we could split the difference and test at +7.5.
What would you like to do, Rochelle?
I fixed his SS and also added a "time" column so you put the exact time you shot. That helps many members and I did it for a while as well with Gracie. Let me know if you don't like it.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
He's not eaten rest warmed it up and put down again. He's still happy and lovey but I do feel bad about his ears and whatever you think is best to test at again
Why don't you try to get a +7.5 just so that if he's dropping fast again, we can catch it.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I am grocery shopping right now I thought he was ok till +10 ****
No....so sorry.....I said no later than +8
I'd test him as soon as you get home if it's after 3:30 your time which is +7.5.
Rochelle
After you test him and post, perhaps we could do a bit of housekeeping. Here's a schedule:
1. Test as soon as you get home and hopefully no later than +8; update SS; post on condo...not done
2. Update condo subject line to bring it up to the current test. (You don't ever need to post the dose...we can look at the SS)....not done
The reason it is important to keep the condo subject line up-to-date is because there are several of us scanning the list of condos and sometimes we see something in the subject line that the caregiver might not realize is important (such as fastly dropping numbers). It just helps us prioritize who might need help first. Thank you!
After you test him and post, perhaps we could do a bit of housekeeping. Here's a schedule:
1. Test as soon as you get home and hopefully no later than +8; update SS; post on condo...not done
2. Update condo subject line to bring it up to the current test. (You don't ever need to post the dose...we can look at the SS)....not done
The reason it is important to keep the condo subject line up-to-date is because there are several of us scanning the list of condos and sometimes we see something in the subject line that the caregiver might not realize is important (such as fastly dropping numbers). It just helps us prioritize who might need help first. Thank you!
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I don't know what a condo means
It’s the same as a thread. In this forum, we call them “condos”. It’s just a funny, slang term we use. Possibly originated because cats hang out in condos and we do here, as well. Again....just a term that is specific to this forum. So your condo today is this thread.
Have you tested yet? I haven’t seen an update or a BG on the SS.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I'm not at home the grocery stores were crazy I'll be home at 5 PM my time which would be a +10 I think for a fast nine let me know if that's OK
He was dropping when you left. He has shown he can drop fast and can dip down.
I don't really know where he will be by +9 or +10.
My goal has been to recommend testing times based on what will keep him safe and still allow you to nap or get things done as I understand you are a single mom with kids and other pets. I felt that a test no later than +8 was important but, having said that, you are the caregiver and so you have to make the decision.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
we are home and tested and updated spreed sheet. he is currently 187 i needed to get out and get him food and more supplies (autofeeder) i also had to grocery shop with my limited time and i figured he was ok and not to low? I didnt mean to miss them but i am only one person
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I needed to get the supplies so when I start school monday i have everything for him ready and set up also hes mad about ears not thrilled and running and hiding when i come in room now.... i feel very bad but we tested now and i will and can stay home now what else can i or should i do? im sorry i am trying to balance it all out too
Gill & George
Member Since 2015
He's safe that was the concern, mostly because, how he responds to insulin is an unknown quantity, being new to all this.
If you need to go out, you could give him a LC snack now, and leave the next test till pmps.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I know but I i'm only one person and I can't be here every hour to test him right now because I still have to get groceries and do other things
I am home tonight so we need more tests ? How often ?! Poor guy I am a terrible lady
hate poking him
I did all my errands and he's ok happy man and actually wanted snuggles this time so he can't be that mad I stocked on food and dehydrated chicken and will make him real chicken treats and make sure I know how to work auto feeder
I am home tonight so we need more tests ? How often ?! Poor guy I am a terrible lady
hate poking him
I am glad he's safe. I truly do understand...I danced this dance for 5-1/2 years and I know there are times that you must get out and take care of things especially when you are the only caregiver.
But I also know what cats can do on insulin and as @Gill & George said, we really are just getting the data to see how his cycles go.
I've seen more times than you can imagine, with my own baby and others, when the CG left for a few hours and kitty was in low 300s and they (and I) rushed around, got home a couple hours later, and kitty was in the 30s.
I don't want to scare or stress you because I know you have a full plate but I do want you to understand the realities so you can make decisions for your schedule around his testing. I'm hoping that as we get more data between now and school starting, that we will find he's a pretty stable guy.
I'll post in a few minutes on when you should test next. I'd really like to wait until PMPS but that might be a little too long. And I hate to do a test at +11 and PMPS when his ears are sore. So I'll be back soon.
Of course, you are learning and you know him best. What do you think about when to test him next? It's something you need to get a feel for.
But I also know what cats can do on insulin and as @Gill & George said, we really are just getting the data to see how his cycles go.
I've seen more times than you can imagine, with my own baby and others, when the CG left for a few hours and kitty was in low 300s and they (and I) rushed around, got home a couple hours later, and kitty was in the 30s.
I don't want to scare or stress you because I know you have a full plate but I do want you to understand the realities so you can make decisions for your schedule around his testing. I'm hoping that as we get more data between now and school starting, that we will find he's a pretty stable guy.
I'll post in a few minutes on when you should test next. I'd really like to wait until PMPS but that might be a little too long. And I hate to do a test at +11 and PMPS when his ears are sore. So I'll be back soon.
Of course, you are learning and you know him best. What do you think about when to test him next? It's something you need to get a feel for.
Gill & George
Member Since 2015
We do understand how incredibly difficult it is to juggle life and a FD kitty. We know you are doing the best you can.
Good plan on getting the autofeeder, it'll be useful when you start school.
Gone midnight for me here, was just checking in on you before I hit the sack. I'll look out for you in the morning.
I see @Marje and Gracie is back. I'll let you both decide on a strategy for tonight.
Glad JB is wanting snuggles, there nothing sweeter than a snuggly kitty.
Good plan on getting the autofeeder, it'll be useful when you start school.
Gone midnight for me here, was just checking in on you before I hit the sack. I'll look out for you in the morning.
I see @Marje and Gracie is back. I'll let you both decide on a strategy for tonight.
Glad JB is wanting snuggles, there nothing sweeter than a snuggly kitty.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
the vet was saying he was manageable on food but i am unsure of that
I feel from what I have learned its a 12 hour cycle and after the + 6 he will be as low as he will go from morning shot, then as long as hes eating and i am feeding the curve hes been ok on .75 @ 8 so maybe a pmps and a +1 and + 4 in case i need to intervene?
Ok...let's give it a try. You can always adjust, if need be.
It's great you are looking at the SS and coming up with a plan. We always say"know thy cat".
See you at PMPS.
It's great you are looking at the SS and coming up with a plan. We always say"know thy cat".
See you at PMPS.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
does it sound right ? I was hoping to take kids for evening bike ride so i guess we will see at + 1 if thats possible
Just remember that at +1, you might see a food spike so it is not always indicative of what the cycle will do. In other words, a higher +1 can give a false sense of security.
I'm off for a workout myself and will be back at his shot time.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
ok then I will aim for a +2 and +4 so i can appease the kids and make sure hes not dropping.... should i set feeder to fed curve? +1 +2 +3?
The feeder setup will be great. Have you made sure he will use it? My Gracie took right to it but it freaks other cats out at first. I'd do some training sessions between now and then with some freeze dried treats,
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
ok well i will see what he thinks now and tdo PMPS and fed and shot i will be here for +1 so ill fed curve and if not back f0r +2 have sister do BG and light snack and I will be back for +3 if not (sister do snack if he does not like feeder) +4 for sure and will update sheets what about after + 4? if i were to guess + 6? and then if good not low +10?
Just saw his PMPS. I think you understand the pros and cons.
Obviously, the pros include keeping him on track and giving him longer in better numbers. The cons are that you are most likely going to have a PJ party and he will need testing.
It's your call.
Obviously, the pros include keeping him on track and giving him longer in better numbers. The cons are that you are most likely going to have a PJ party and he will need testing.
It's your call.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
i cant do another pj party can i try nore food another hour? like another night and testing his ears kill us both i am sure
You can't feed to bring him up to shoot.
You can stall and see if he comes up but often when they are clearing a bounce, they drop more.
You can stall and see if he comes up but often when they are clearing a bounce, they drop more.
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
He's also refusing to eat even his gravy food or the Temptations I think he stressed out and his ears are bothering him
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
He keeps going in hiding and he won't come out and he hasn't eaten any of the snacks or his supper from earlier
What do you want to do?
RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
I feel like he needs a break and if he doesn't eat I can't control the drop. He's impossible to syringe feed and I think too many blood tests honestly
I get it....it's totally up to you. You can give a reduced dose but because of the depot, he could come back down at least the first half of the cycle.
I'm not trying to pressure you into shooting; I just want you to have the options.
If you feel you need to skip and give you both a rest, that's fine.
I'm going to be off the board for about 39 mins. I've got to go pick up my car from the maintenance place.
I'm not trying to pressure you into shooting; I just want you to have the options.
If you feel you need to skip and give you both a rest, that's fine.
I'm going to be off the board for about 39 mins. I've got to go pick up my car from the maintenance place.
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RochellenTiggs
Member Since 2017
We're going to take a break tonight because last time this happened he ended up in the vet for one week because we couldn't get him to eat after he was so stressed out and after I ran a curve....
Okay. It will probably do you both good
Good you please just change the subject line to:
6/1 Jelly PMBG 106
That way, no one thinks you need any additional help tonight.
Also....I would test him in a couple hours to be sure he's coming up. Just because you didn't give insulin doesn't mean the depot is not still in play.
Have a good rest.
Good you please just change the subject line to:
6/1 Jelly PMBG 106
That way, no one thinks you need any additional help tonight.
Also....I would test him in a couple hours to be sure he's coming up. Just because you didn't give insulin doesn't mean the depot is not still in play.
Have a good rest.
Gill & George
Member Since 2015
Hope you get a good night's sleep.
Rochelle, just wanted to remind you that as you are skipping tonight if shooting on a 7am /7pm schedule makes more sense for when you start school. You could shoot at 7am tomorrow morning.
(I seem to remember that's was a preferred shot time for you)
Rochelle, just wanted to remind you that as you are skipping tonight if shooting on a 7am /7pm schedule makes more sense for when you start school. You could shoot at 7am tomorrow morning.
(I seem to remember that's was a preferred shot time for you)
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