Just a question looking forward for a non-diabetic cat

Gracie85

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We adopted Lilli less than 2 years ago. She was under a year old, had been living wild for a bit, (suspect her family had tossed her out when they realized she was pregnant, as she had definitely lived in a house with people for a while, based on behavior) had four kittens and was rescued when they were a day old, and she was very sick with a respiratory illness and a huge abscess, and was just bone-skinny. The rescue did a miraculous job of getting her healthy, and reuniting her with her kittens after 2 weeks to finish raising them to weaning, then had her spayed. We adopted her a couple of weeks later.

She was still so skinny you could feel every angle of every bone in her body. Weighed about 7-1/2 pounds, despite being well fed on expensive food, was still smaller than an average adult cat.
But...the expensive food was designer name dry food and canned food, and when I looked it up was about 40% carbs. I looked this up because right away I noticed that, while she ate a staggering amount of food, ravenously, she also drank lots of water very frequently, and of course then peed great amounts, also.

So we quickly converted her to the same diet as our other cats, only canned food, Fancy Feast classic pate turkey & giblets; our other four cats include a diet-controlled borderline diabetic, one with chicken allergy, one with fish sensitivity, and one who can eat anything, including sheetrock off the corners of the walls (okay, so Charlie is another story altogether...).

Lilli stopped drinking water pretty much altogether, the excess peeing stopped, and she finally started gaining weight and growing. At first she was eating 5 cans of FF a day, and would inhale it in less than a minute (obviously those months of being pregnant and homeless left an impact.) She gained weight rapidly now, and we gradually cut back to just under 2 cans a day because she was finally heading towards plumpness.
She is now our largest cat, weighing over 13 pounds, huge, fluffy, longest fur I have ever seen. She is still learning to "cat" properly, she must have been dumped into the wild early, as her social skills are not up to par, according to our other cats (except Charlie, who is social and physical chaos himself.)

But, I wonder if it is more likely she will develop diabetes in the future?
Clearly the life she was leading up to getting saved by the rescue put extreme stress on her young body; she really is lucky to be alive after all of that. She is probably about 3 years old now.
Do I just keep watch for the obvious signs of weight loss, increased thirst, etc?
Or should we have extra bloodwork done, maybe yearly, to make sure we don't see diabetes or something else developing?

We were thinking when the oldest cat passes (expected soon-ish, probably, he's had so many issues in his past, thyroid, bladder, etc and he's over 18 now), we were thinking we could relax the extremely strict low-carb diet, to a less-limited low carb diet, but considering Lilli's past symptoms, I wonder if we should just stick to it?

(Photos of Lilli when we first got her, and now)
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Lilli is beautiful and she is very lucky to have you. It is hard to say whether she will develop diabetes in the future. If you are hometesting Lamborghini, then I don't think you need to worry about extra testing for Lilli right now. If you start seeing symptoms of FD, use your meter to test her glucose then. If it is high, then have her tested at the vet. Just remember that higher glucose readings could also indicate a possible infection. The bloodwork at the vet will be able to help determine if that is the cause
 
and one who can eat anything, including sheetrock off the corners of the walls (okay, so Charlie is another story altogether...).


Lol :D:D Sounds just like my diabetic, although in his case most of what he eats upsets his IBD/sensitive tummy :facepalm:

❤️ the pictures!

Routine blood work will catch any potential health issues. You can also do random blood glucose checks at home.
 
Lol :D:D Sounds just like my diabetic, although in his case most of what he eats upsets his IBD/sensitive tummy :facepalm:

❤️ the pictures!

Routine blood work will catch any potential health issues. You can also do random blood glucose checks at home.

Welcome to FDF Lilli is just gorgeous, you did great switching to FF pates, and yes dry, expensive or not foods have an immense amount of carbs,
you might want to taper off so much food though 5 cans a day is a lot of food, you do not want an obese cat either, that can also lead to diabetes, if you see there's still a lot of drinking you might want to purchase a human glucose monitor and strips like the ReliOn Premier, and test a non diabetic cats BG reading should be anywhere between 70's -110 give or take, we can send you info on how to test if need to; my Corky is a very large indoor tabby, weighs 16.5lbs and I feed 1/2 a can in two main courses and 1 snack, like 1% carb ham, and two other meals 1/2 a can in each meal and both my cats are very satisfied. Also FF has a good source of natural snacks, also know that the commercial treats also have the same amount of carbs if not more as the kibbles, so stay away from that, becoming diabetic in a cat, can be many reasons, the main ones, are genetic, overweight, if indoors, they do not exercise as much so they do not burn fat as easily, cats cannot digest carbs, so what you feed is very very important, continue checking the water intake, weight and urination, should be normal not in excess. Congratulation in adopting her, she is a gem :bighug::cat::cat:
 
We don't actually test Lamborghini anymore, he's old, he's frail, arthritic, toothless, hypothyroid after I-131 treatment for a large tumor (on pills and well regulated now), some kidney and liver decrease, former bladder crystals, and probably stuff I've now forgotten. By holding him to the very strict very low carbs food we have kept his blood sugar well controlled, and at his age and condition we aren't putting him through anything anymore. Consider it Kitty Hospice, as long as he's comfortable (gabapentin seems to work) sleeping in his sunny window, he's okay. Desperately hoping he falls asleep forever, happy in his own bed, but if need be, we will make the call. He eats 3-4 cans of FF a day now, spread over 6-8 meals, 1/2 a can at a time with plenty of water added, as if he eats too much at any one meal he then barfs it right back up. Most of the time he makes it into the litterbox, and if he doesn't, it's close by and we're set up for easy clean up. About a year ago, he accidentally was being fed some leftover cans of evil high carb food from when we got Lilli, and immediately I noticed him drinking and drinking all day, and absolutely soaking the litterbox. Figured out what was happening, got him back on his FF classic, and right away he went back to normal. So, I'm pretty good at spotting changes, and know what to look for, for him and for Lilli.

We weigh all 5 cats every couple months or so, Lamborghini and Lilli get fed separately, but the other three monsters share bowls, so weighing them is the best way to make sure we are feeding enough, but not too much, and that everyone is getting a fair share. Very easy to spot if someone is getting a bit plump (three of the 5 are long-haired), or not feeling good and starting to lose weight (one has allergies and is prone to respiratory infections, I can spot her weight loss when her nose clogs long before it becomes obvious that she's sick enough for medicine again). Highly recommend anyone who needs to keep track of a cat's health a little more closely than typical to weigh their cat regularly. We use a cheap postal scale that goes to about 20 pounds that we got off Amazon, we put a box on it, then put the cat in the box to get their weight. A few light treats dropped in the box will keep the cat inside willingly while you get the weight (or you can close them in, tho they mostly don't like that.)

Here's some cat photo tax as a thank you for reading all I wrote and your replies:

Yeti and Lamborghini, snuggle buddies
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Feeding time: Maggie in doorway, then Lamborghini, Lilli, Charlie, and Daisy Dog (Yeti is just out of view)
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Charlie and Maggie
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And Charlie. He's a special kind of special....
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We don't actually test Lamborghini anymore, he's old, he's frail, arthritic, toothless, hypothyroid after I-131 treatment for a large tumor (on pills and well regulated now), some kidney and liver decrease, former bladder crystals, and probably stuff I've now forgotten. By holding him to the very strict very low carbs food we have kept his blood sugar well controlled, and at his age and condition we aren't putting him through anything anymore. Consider it Kitty Hospice, as long as he's comfortable (gabapentin seems to work) sleeping in his sunny window, he's okay. Desperately hoping he falls asleep forever, happy in his own bed, but if need be, we will make the call. He eats 3-4 cans of FF a day now, spread over 6-8 meals, 1/2 a can at a time with plenty of water added, as if he eats too much at any one meal he then barfs it right back up. Most of the time he makes it into the litterbox, and if he doesn't, it's close by and we're set up for easy clean up. About a year ago, he accidentally was being fed some leftover cans of evil high carb food from when we got Lilli, and immediately I noticed him drinking and drinking all day, and absolutely soaking the litterbox. Figured out what was happening, got him back on his FF classic, and right away he went back to normal. So, I'm pretty good at spotting changes, and know what to look for, for him and for Lilli.

We weigh all 5 cats every couple months or so, Lamborghini and Lilli get fed separately, but the other three monsters share bowls, so weighing them is the best way to make sure we are feeding enough, but not too much, and that everyone is getting a fair share. Very easy to spot if someone is getting a bit plump (three of the 5 are long-haired), or not feeling good and starting to lose weight (one has allergies and is prone to respiratory infections, I can spot her weight loss when her nose clogs long before it becomes obvious that she's sick enough for medicine again). Highly recommend anyone who needs to keep track of a cat's health a little more closely than typical to weigh their cat regularly. We use a cheap postal scale that goes to about 20 pounds that we got off Amazon, we put a box on it, then put the cat in the box to get their weight. A few light treats dropped in the box will keep the cat inside willingly while you get the weight (or you can close them in, tho they mostly don't like that.)

Here's some cat photo tax as a thank you for reading all I wrote and your replies:

Yeti and Lamborghini, snuggle buddies
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Feeding time: Maggie in doorway, then Lamborghini, Lilli, Charlie, and Daisy Dog (Yeti is just out of view)
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Charlie and Maggie
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And Charlie. He's a special kind of special....
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All of your fue babies are beautiful, I see you are right on point in their care, it is sad to see them go, but you seem to have all the angels tied up If anything we can do for you please feel free to post us anything inr:bighug::bighug::cat::cat:
 
I don't think there's a good way to predict if your cat will become diabetic. If you recall Dr. Lisa's page on feline nutrition, she recommends a canned food diet for all cats. Further, she points out that cats are obligate carnivores. A species appropriate diet does not include carbs -- they can't metabolize the carbs. Their systems are geared toward the kitty equivalent of a keto diet. If you bring your cats in for an annual check up, you could ask the vet to include a fructosamine test. If you notice that your cat's not feeling well, or you see symptoms of diabetes, as long as you still have your testing materials, you can always test Lilli to see if her numbers are high.
 
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