Cat Pee Everywhere

[davidscat]

For quite a while Snowy has occasionally peed over the side of the litter box; however, this WAS a rare occurrence. Within the last couple of months, peeing over the side of the litter box has become routine and he rarely gets the pee inside the box. He sometimes poops over the side too. It gets worse. In the last couple of weeks, he has peed on the towels he sleeps on three or four times, and has also peed on the floor in my spare bedroom, far away from any litter box.

I took him to the vet a couple of weeks ago, and the vet thought the problem was likely behavioral rather than physical and suggested that I try a different litter box and different litter. Well, I did but with the same result. We went back to the vet today and the vet has sent a urine sample off for culture and took blood for lab work. It will be several few days before I hear the test results.

Wonder if anyone has had a similar experience? Any suggestions?

 

[CORKY]

For quite a while Snowy has occasionally peed over the side of the litter box; however, this WAS a rare occurrence. Within the last couple of months, peeing over the side of the litter box has become routine and he rarely gets the pee inside the box. He sometimes poops over the side too. It gets worse. In the last couple of weeks, he has peed on the towels he sleeps on three or four times, and has also peed on the floor in my spare bedroom, far away from any litter box.

I took him to the vet a couple of weeks ago, and the vet thought the problem was likely behavioral rather than physical and suggested that I try a different litter box and different litter. Well, I did but with the same result. We went back to the vet today and the vet has sent a urine sample off for culture and took blood for lab work. It will be several few days before I hear the test results.

Wonder if anyone has had a similar experience? Any suggestions?

@SmallestSparrow
@Sienne and Gabby (GA)

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

It's behavioral. Daniel pooped in the box but peed on anything shiny or plastic. Most people "proof" their basement meaning making sure nothing large can be tipped over, sump pump holes secured etc. Ours meant RubberMaid containers and anything wrapped in plastic got moved to a higher shelf. There's nothing we could do about our small freezer. It could be worse. When we had nine cats Kobiashi was a 28 pound beast with arthritis. We moved his box to the top of the stairs with a small ramp. Obviously the other cats soon figured out "why should we walk the extra 15 feet when we can just take an enormous whizz right here".
Just be glad your great aunt Fern hasn't moved with her rubber bed sheets.

 

[davidscat]

That's purely depressing. There's little hope of changing behavior, or at least I don't know how to change his. My other cat, Mora, started peeing everywhere near the end but it was obvious on many levels that her mind wasn't right. Snowy "seems" fine in every way otherwise; well, except for being diabetic.

 

[Bron and Sheba (GA)]

I am wondering if it could be a UTI or FLUTD (google it).
If it is uncomfortable or hurting him he could be associating the peeing in the box with pain. I have a cat that sometimes goes in the shower to poop as I’m sure it sometimes hurts her. Years ago i had a cat who had IBS who would poop outside the box and I’m sure it was because he associated the box with pain.
If it is FLUTD there are treatments to help it.
You say he sometimes pees and poops over the side of the box. One of my kitties does that occasionally and it is because he doesn’t realise his but is not completely inside the box. Does your box have high sides?

 

[SmallestSparrow]

I echo all that Bron said. If this is new there’s likely something (probably medical) going on. UTI always leads my list for the reasons Bron mentioned. Also older and/or diabetic cats have muscle loss and poor balance so may not realize where they are in relation to box edges.

one of my boys (methos) is main coon sized. He does not fit in a standard box. When he was younger/healthier I had a big storage box and he hopped in and out. With his tumor the muscle loss is severe. I changed to the biggest extra large box with a low step in. I’ve now added an aerobic type step up into it. But when he uses a TEENY box at the vet he must keep balancing and looking at his butt to be sure it’s inside. So I’d try a larger box and rule out all the medical stuff from infection to bad arthritis. Look at the box, imagine you at 90 using it and go from there. I have more tips but must poke an ear. I will be back. Don’t give up or dispair

 

[squeem3]

Leroy will pee and / or poop outside the litter box if he's hungry but it's too early for a meal or it's close to dinner but I'm not home yet Litter attractant has no effect on him. Try offering a small snack or two in between the main meals. You can use a timed feeder for this.

 

[SmallestSparrow]

Ok I’m back. I won’t ask if anything is new about the box—you seem cat box savvy. Ditto for cleaning up messes well.

Diabetes affects the nerves to the gut as it does the legs. He may not have good control over either unless his diabetes is under control. But with control it should get better. I read above this didn’t work for someone else, but Dr. Elsie‘s cat attract litter additive has worked for a lot of cats when I was volunteering in a shelter. I think you can get that at Chuy‘s or Petco probably or PetSmart most of the most pet places have it— You added it to a cat normal litter and it kind of tells him here’s where you go. I had somewhat senile cat who started missing the box, but when I used this on her, she realized where she had to go.
I don’t know how much space you have or if you want to try changing his box in anyway, but I had to use a system that would as best I could control litter from my boys who like to dig and contain any overspray because they are big boys who sometimes stand taller than the sides of their box. So I use a dog soft crate as their litter box enclosure. I’ll attach some pictures. You wouldn’t need a soft crate as big as the one I used. Mine is an extra large crate for two reasons one I was like I said, using a large storage tub as their litter box he now makes two with an extra large standard box And two a large one was just the right size that if I put it under a window they could use it as a hammock and look out the window. So I like the soft crate because the floor of it and the sides where it’s not a window is waterproof so it makes cleanup easy if somebody misses Kind of controls the litter tracking and because of the mesh windows it lets air circulate so it smells good in there for them and doesn’t smell like a porta John. This one is Methos’ box with the little aerobics step. My other cat doesn’t get the aerobics step because he can still climb into things without problems. You can see the box I have for for both of them is tall on three sides

 

[SmallestSparrow]

One (hopefully) final thought re the poop. Could he be constipated? Just like peeing somewhere else hoping it doesn’t hurt when not in the box, constipation can make a cat look for a less painful experience.
IMO diabetic cats get constipated a lot—for several reasons. The nerve damage I mentioned. They can have low potassium from the intracellular shift from insulin, and dehydrated from peeing so much.

methos had low potassium from his tumor (before the diabetes). Before that was discovered he suddenly pooped in his favorite bed rather than his box. This was NOT like him at all. His step brother had just returned from I 131 isolation so I thought it was behavioral. Then I realized he was constipated. I think he tried his favorite bed bc he felt safe there, or he didn’t want to mess up the floor—he is a considerate big goofy guy. Cats who are constipated may also poop odd places bc they’re trying to avoid pooping and finally “explode” somewhere so to speak. Thats when I realized Methos was constipated. After tossing the bed two days later I saw him about to poop in another bed. I grabbed him to take him to his box and he dispensed poop like a fluffy pez dispenser all the way down the hall

 

[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

You might want to try using Dr. Elsey's Cat Attract litter. It may help.

If your cat has arthritis, you may need a box that has a lower entry on one side.

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

How to clean a basement floor. It took me years to come across this after too many toxic recommendations.
Obviously concrete is porous, the harder you scrub just drives it deeper into the pores.
Get a 1KG box of baking soda and a liter of hydrogen peroxide, extra cheap at Walmart. Mix the two into the consistency of peanut butter and slobber it on. Leave on for 2 to 3 hours, then scrape off with a metal putty knife. We've had as many as five litter boxes down there, now the floor looks nearly new.

 

[Tim & Pookey]

Second the Dr. Elsey’s cat attract litter.

 

[davidscat]

Wow, lots of good info. His litter boxes (he has two) are approximately 14 in X 19 in, and the depth is about 6.5 in at the front, rising to 19 in in the back. He backs up to the front edge and pees/poops over the front. The worst cleanup issue occurs when the urine runs under the box - the floor is wet and the bottom of the box, full of litter, is wet too. I tried a box with lower sides and he just peed over the back side rather than just the front, so that was no go. One box, his primary box, is in a rarely used bathroom, the other in the laundry room. He has complete privacy so I don't think that's an issue.

He has used the same boxes for 13 years. Maybe I should wash them after all these years - ha! But seriously, I scrub them out, although not as often in the cold weather. The cleanliness of the box doesn't seem to make any difference as to Snowy's habits.

I don't THINK he's constipated, he usually poops daily. Sometimes he poops in the bathtub, which is fine, easy cleanup. Sometimes the poop is a bit runny, likely due to a pancreatitis flare up.

As to UTI or FLUTD, the vet did a bladder ultrasound yesterday which was negative for whatever the vet was looking for. She has sent a urine sample to a lab for a culture which could take up to seven days.

I'll try the Dr. Elsie‘s, looks like the Pet Smart in a nearby town has it in stock.

A week or two ago, Snowy went outside and I observed him peeing. Naturally, he raises his tail to get it out of the way, but as he's gotten older the tail doesn't rise up like it used to. Still, with the posture he used outside he couldn't possibly pee over the side of a litter box. I've wondered if he is standing higher in the litter box to compensate for the fact that he can't raise is tail to clear the side of the box. Do you see where I'm going with this? Wish I could convince him to pee in the middle of the box rather than going to the edge.

 

[SmallestSparrow]

You may be onto something. That might explain him choosing to pee where he does—trying to get his tail out of the way. My boy pees facing the back and poops facing front. Maybe he wants to see what’s coming if he’s going to be occupied for a while. He will occasionally pee facing front of he’s already peed at the front end and I’ve not scooped it yet. Neither of my boys pee in the center of a box, always the ends for Methos or any of the sides for Muz. I’m sure there’s a reason. I will ponder a tail solution today and let you know if anything results. Good luck

Oh and it sounds like you have an open box (good for you) on the floor. Perhaps either putting pee pads down under/around, or even putting litter box inside a larger tray (for instance a wire crate tray/bottom or they make these huge “dog litter boxes” still need to clean but it saves the flooring

 

[SmallestSparrow]

As I typed methos used his box and indeed positioned his tail over the cut down entrance way. His front was at the very back of the box. How long is your boy compared to the length (your box sounds long but maybe so is snowy)

edit: if it seems like snowy is as long as his box it might be worth trying a longer box. Like I said methos used to be able to scrunch into a small box when younger and stronger but now really needs a long box or he’d miss the edges. I’ve taken to taking a box with me when we will be all day at the vet

 

[SmallestSparrow]

Also if possible get the Dr Elsey’s litter attract additive rather than the litter, unless the litter you use is a similar composition (in which case use either). The additive you can add to the current litter so you’re not dealing with the cat boycotting a litter change. If it’s the same composition as Dr Elsey’s litter (I think it may be clay I’m not sure ) then of course it doesn’t matter

 

[davidscat]

Snowy isn't a large cat, but not small either. I had never measured him before, but from nose to base-of-tail he's about 17 inches. Of course he doesn't lie down in the litter box, at least not that I'm aware of. Still, he might be a bit cramped in the current box.

 

[SmallestSparrow]

Snowy isn't a large cat, but not small either. I had never measured him before, but from nose to base-of-tail he's about 17 inches. Of course he doesn't lie down in the litter box, at least not that I'm aware of. Still, he might be a bit cramped in the current box.

This feline diabetes is so weird.
I never thought I’d measure my cat

Yeah. I never thought I’d weigh his poop, either.
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(5”=one ounce btw, ymmv)​

 

[davidscat]

LoL. I haven't had to weigh/measure his poop - yet.

I've thought about putting something in the box to get him to move away from the front end of the box a bit. Maybe a piece of 2 inch PVC pipe as it would be washable. He could still step over it and maybe he would back off the from the end of the box. Or he might just beat me over the head with the pipe.

 

[davidscat]

I just caught Snowy peeing on his bedding towels which are atop a solid cherry table. I thought that perhaps he was having accidents, but no, he was peeing as if he were in the litter box. I can't wash and dry towels fast enough to keep up!!!!!!!!!!! This has become a once or twice a day occurrence. I can live with him missing the litter box, but this ...

 

[SmallestSparrow]

I just caught Snowy peeing on his bedding towels which are atop a solid cherry table. I thought that perhaps he was having accidents, but no, he was peeing as if he were in the litter box. I can't wash and dry towels fast enough to keep up!!!!!!!!!!! This has become a once or twice a day occurrence. I can live with him missing the litter box, but this ...

I don’t know what to tell you other than don’t put towels anywhere as he seems to think that’s a “pee here” signal (were these towels washed with towels he’d already marked), or an infection (waiting on the culture), or marking his territory but I don’t know why he’d suddenly feel compelled to mark your home as his (I assume no new pets) —could there be a strange animal lurking outside that he sees or smells and perceives as a threat to his property?

I feel for what you’re going through and I hope it resolves soon.

 

[davidscat]

Yes, he's getting previously peed on towels. That's about all I have to offer him.
No new pets. My other cat passed on back in July. Mora and Snowy didn't get along very well, that is to say Mora hated Snowy's guts.
Could be some animal, possibly another cat, outside. There have been times after dark that Snowy acts like he REALLY wants to go outside.

Any laundry detergent or additive you might recommend? Assuming it would do any good. I'm afraid if I move his bed elsewhere the pee will follow and perhaps be worse that what is going on now. I just don't know.

 

[Lynn and Radar]

Have your vet check Snowy for impacted anal glands.

Avoiding the litter box is a common sign of anal gland issues in cats. I've experienced this with two cats and both times once the problem was addressed the cats returned to using the litter box.

 

[SmallestSparrow]

Yes, he's getting previously peed on towels. That's about all I have to offer him.
No new pets. My other cat passed on back in July. Mora and Snowy didn't get along very well, that is to say Mora hated Snowy's guts.
Could be some animal, possibly another cat, outside. There have been times after dark that Snowy acts like he REALLY wants to go outside.

Any laundry detergent or additive you might recommend? Assuming it would do any good. I'm afraid if I move his bed elsewhere the pee will follow and perhaps be worse that what is going on now. I just don't know.

yeah don’t move things he’s peeing on to a new place in the house. I think cats can smell things we can’t and may have peed on the towels bc he could smell his pee still. A strange cat outside drives Muz crazy enough for him to attack Methos who may just be sleeping somewhere —I don’t have great advice for keeping strays away. I’ve tried a water scarecrow or me yelling at them—as an aside clapping your hands at stray cats makes an Apple Watch think you’ve fallen

I’ve used Nature’s Miracle laundry boost but they’ve never peed to mark something, just missed the box (when i wash the soft crate) and I’ve used it if a “clinger” dropped onto a rug to wash the rug. My floors are all stone or tile and i use Nature's miracle stain and odor remover. You could probably also ask the local shelter or cat rescue what they’d recommend bc I’m sure they’ve been to this rodeo before

 

[JL and Chip]

Lots to say on this topic but I only have a few minutes so will have to come back later.

Some older or declawed cats become arthritic or sore in their paws and joints and begin to look for softer (on the toes) or more “stable” surfaces to pee on. I didn’t catch whether Snowy was declawed, but I understand that declawed cats tend to have litter box aversion issues more often than clawed cats, especially later in life.

Large, tall storage totes with a hole cut on the side for an entry can work well for overshoots. It also gives them a bigger surface to pee in and move around, which most cats prefer, so can help make a litter box more enticing. Typical recommendation is to leave the lid off.

Walmart sells disposable underpads for humans (Assurance brand) in the pharmacy section and they work well placed under and around litter boxes to catch any overshoots. You can even tape the pads to the outside of the box, nestle the pad under the bottom outside of the box, and let the remainder of the pad lay around the box on the floor so an overshoot doesn’t leech under the box.

As for cleanup, I like Mr Max Anti-Icky Poo. It’s an enzyme cleaner and you can use it to clean up accidents and even use it when washing soiled laundry. I used to use Nature’s Miracle but the formula has changed (I think I read the original formula is now the Mr Max product). If you don’t use an enzyme product, the odor remains — even if we can’t smell it, the cats can — and might draw them back to to w same locations.

I think it’s smart to pursue medical issues. So often things are defaulted to being labeled as behavioral but there’s an actual medical component, we just have to figure it out. Also, given that you said this happened occasionally in the past, it’s entirely possible that it’s a mix of both medical and behavioral. For example, soiling towels where Snowy is sleeping sounds accidental. Could be a deep sleep leakage problem (as in, urinary sphincter doesn’t work as well anymore and/or diabetes isn’t controlled so there’s a lot of urine and the bladder overflows accidentally). Soiling towels in front of you could be an effort to communicate a medical issue, or it could be just a practical solution on the cat’s part (litter box is too far away and I have to no NOW). Do you have a litter box on each level of your home? Or in multiple rooms on the same level?

I also second the suggestion of Dr Elseys Cat Attract litter.

 

[Suzanne & Darcy]

I second the vote for Dr. Elsey’s cat attract litter. It’s been some years, but that litter really helped me with a problem cat.
You are going about this the right way. First rule out medical issues. I have a cat who sometimes sticks his rear out the box front opening and poops. He doesn’t realize it. I have had cats with IBD who would not use the box when they’re having a flare up (or before diagnosis when they were suffering and having a lot of diarrhea and discomfort.). Same goes for inappropriate urination. I had a cat who started as a young cat — turns out he had a UTI. He did better after treatment. FLUTD can be long-lasting- and can flare up. Obviously, it can be behavioral, but behavioral meds can help. Removing triggers can help, too (cat proofing- if possible.)

 

[JanetNJ]

Snowy isn't a large cat, but not small either. I had never measured him before, but from nose to base-of-tail he's about 17 inches. Of course he doesn't lie down in the litter box, at least not that I'm aware of. Still, he might be a bit cramped in the current box.

We have to use a high sided storage container for my cat because she stands to pee. So it's just a see through bin from target. We couldn't find any other litterbox that would work. I have had a few cats that for whatever reason prefer pee pee pads, so we have that outside of the litterbox as well.

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

Yeah. I never thought I’d weigh his poop, either.

Welcome to my world.
- Chasing a female dog holding up her tail with a tin foil baking dish trying desperately to get a pee sample
- digging through four litter boxes looking for medical "evidence"
- keeping one of nine cats locked in the bathroom waiting for a pee sample in the special litter. It's like camping or the extra filthy gas station bathroom. "No thanks, I can wait a few more days. Is that a rat?"
- Andrew having an X-ray for something else and finding a staple in him. We figured it fell from the insulation and into the litter. From there he must have licked his paws. He pooped it out.
- our Border Collie had a thing for multi-colored Tums, once ate an entire small bottle. Vet said it was harmless but I left her Play-Doh poo in the high school field just to mess with them.
The official Bristol poop chart

Type 1: Separate hard lumps, like nuts (difficult to pass)
Type 2: Sausage-shaped, but lumpy
Type 3: Like a sausage but with cracks on its surface
Type 4: Like a sausage or snake, (a snake?) smooth and soft (average stool)
Type 5: Soft blobs with clear cut edges
Type 6: Fluffy pieces with ragged edges, a mushy stool (diarrhea)
Type 7: Watery, no solid pieces, entirely liquid (diarrhea)
#5 looks like the Egg McMuffin that fell under my car seat weeks ago. Some ketchup and you'll never know the difference

 

[Suzanne & Darcy]

We have to use a high sided storage container for my cat because she stands to pee. So it's just a see through bin from target. We couldn't find any other litterbox that would work. I have had a few cats that for whatever reason prefer pee pee pads, so we have that outside of the litterbox as well.

Janet, I have a world champion, gold medalist high peeing cat. I have spent so much money on high-sided litter boxes — and I mean high-sided! I have one (now out in my garage) that I lovingly referred to as the Sarcophagus. It was massive. He gets over them all! Finally, I have found one that he cannot defeat. It’s the Kitty Poo Club XL with the dome (the dome is very important because without it, he can easily get on his tip toes and spray over it. This litter box has been game changer for me. I never thought I would buy a disposable litter box (well, I have used them for traveling with cats, but this guy doesn’t travel) but this is totally worth it. The boxes last much longer than the recommended one month. Oh, the dome is great for litter kickers, too. Here’s what they look like. I use duct tape where the dome slips onto the litter box.

 

[davidscat]

I'm about to lose my mind about this. I can officially declare that the problem has gone far beyond peeing over the side of the litter box. He is now peeing on a baseboard in a carpeted bathroom, and this morning I found a wet Home Depot sack I had dropped on the kitchen floor. The sack didn't have a strong smell, but there is absolutely no other way it could have become wet.

 

[Suzanne & Darcy]

I'm about to lose my mind about this. I can officially declare that the problem has gone far beyond peeing over the side of the litter box. He is now peeing on a baseboard in a carpeted bathroom, and this morning I found a wet Home Depot sack I had dropped on the kitchen floor. The sack didn't have a strong smell, but there is absolutely no other way it could have become wet.

When will you get urinalysis results back?

 

[davidscat]

When will you get urinalysis results back?

The vet did a urinalyis in-office, I think, and said that was fine. A sample was sent for culture, the results of which won't come back until late next week.

 

[davidscat]

I'll add something, perhaps a symptom, FWIW: Regardless of Snowy's BG level, he's been drinking a lot of water for some weeks now. This seems very unusual to me. When he was pre-diabetic he hardly drank water at all, then with diabetes his water consumption would go up with his BG. Now he drinks all the time, as much as 2 cups per day.

 

[JanetNJ]

I'm about to lose my mind about this. I can officially declare that the problem has gone far beyond peeing over the side of the litter box. He is now peeing on a baseboard in a carpeted bathroom, and this morning I found a wet Home Depot sack I had dropped on the kitchen floor. The sack didn't have a strong smell, but there is absolutely no other way it could have become wet.

If it doesn't have a smell then it might be diluted which could be kidney disease. My kidney cat's pee is basically water. Do try pee pads on the floor.

 

[Suzanne & Darcy]

I'll add something, perhaps a symptom, FWIW: Regardless of Snowy's BG level, he's been drinking a lot of water for some weeks now. This seems very unusual to me. When he was pre-diabetic he hardly drank water at all, then with diabetes his water consumption would go up with his BG. Now he drinks all the time, as much as 2 cups per day.

I am then concerned about his kidneys. The in office urinalysis should show urine specific gravity (USG). Do you have the in office urinalysis results? What about recent bloodwork. Look for the BUN and Creatinine number. It was a red flag for me when you said the urine had little odor. I really hope there’s no kidney disease, but if there is (and the excess water consumption could be a sign) there are things you can do to help. I don’t see a spreadsheet for your Snowy, so I don’t know what kind of BG numbers you get or if those would be connected to the water consumption, but if Snowy is in good numbers and still drinking a lot of water, I would get bloodwork done ASAP unless you just did that.

 

[davidscat]

If it doesn't have a smell then it might be diluted which could be kidney disease. My kidney cat's pee is basically water. Do try pee pads on the floor.

I'll try to get peed pads tomorrow to use wherever is needed. His litter box is on a huge rubber mat (48 inch x 40 inch) which prevents most pee from reaching the floor, and I've started placing paper towels to absorb the pee before it overflows the mat.

 

[davidscat]

I am then concerned about his kidneys. The in office urinalysis should show urine specific gravity (USG). Do you have the in office urinalysis results? What about recent bloodwork. Look for the BUN and Creatinine number. It was a red flag for me when you said the urine had little odor. I really hope there’s no kidney disease, but if there is (and the excess water consumption could be a sign) there are things you can do to help. I don’t see a spreadsheet for your Snowy, so I don’t know what kind of BG numbers you get or if those would be connected to the water consumption, but if Snowy is in good numbers and still drinking a lot of water, I would get bloodwork done ASAP unless you just did that.

I didn't actually see the urinalysis report. I've got a lot more questions for the vet. I think he needs complete blood work which is kind of $$, but not a big problem. Fact is I don't do BG measurements at home - I have an terrible tremor and there are days that I can barely inject. He gets a glucose curve about every 3 to 4 months, and occasionally I do walk-in BG checks at the vet. His numbers have been mostly good at the vet but they may pike at times. The vet sent some blood off for a test, don't recall the name, but vet said it was kind of like A1C in people.

 

[Suzanne & Darcy]

I'll try to get peed pads tomorrow to use wherever is needed. His litter box is on a huge rubber mat (48 inch x 40 inch) which prevents most pee from reaching the floor, and I've started placing paper towels to absorb the pee before it overflows the mat.

So there is also a large volume of urine? Those are both signs of diabetes as you already know. It could be high BG or it could be kidney disease.

 

[Suzanne & Darcy]

I didn't actually see the urinalysis report. I've got a lot more questions for the vet. I think he needs complete blood work which is kind of $$, but not a big problem. Fact is I don't do BG measurements at home - I have an terrible tremor and there are days that I can barely inject. He gets a glucose curve about every 3 to 4 months, and occasionally I do walk-in BG checks at the vet. His numbers have been mostly good at the vet but they may pike at times. The vet sent some blood off for a test, don't recall the name, but vet said it was kind of like A1C in people.

That would be a Fructosamine test. It will show an average BG over a period of a few weeks. That’s not really helpful information since a cat’s blood glucose changes so many times over the course of any given day. It’s a good test to diagnose diabetes, but after that it’s not as helpful. We don’t need to know average BG data. Unless we know how low a dose is taking the cat, we can’t know if any dose is safe, and we can’t know if a dose increase or reduction is necessary. I’m sorry about your tremor. That sounds really hard to deal with! Your Snowy sounds like a great candidate for a Libre continuous glucose monitor. You could scan the Libre sensor at home and get all kinds of good information to help Snowy’s diabetes. Checking every three to four months is not enough. I’m sure you have been doing the best you can. Without really recent BG data, we have no idea whether the water drinking or the large urine volume and apparently dilute urine are diabetes-related or kidney-related or both.

Snowy definitely needs a full blood panel done (both a CBC and Chemistry panel along with a T4 check of his thyroid (which is frequently included with bloodwork for senior cats.)

 

[Gracie85]

https://www.poopeepads.com/ Great place to order pee pads at a great price, and they ship them out quickly, too. Have ordered from here for years (we use the cheapest kind in the bottom of our bird cages.)
Another way to help protect surfaces near/under places he is peeing is to get butcher's paper--the stuff that is heavy paper on one side, and plastic-coated on the other. Plastic coated is better than waxed, as wax can crack and let moisture seep through if it gets wrinkled, the plastic coating doesn't. We have one cat who pees in the box, but poops right next to it ever since he had pancreatitis some years ago. So we buy the butcher paper by the roll from Amazon.com, and cut sheets to the size that fits next to the box. Then when he poops, we just roll it up and throw it away. We've also taped up pieces on the wall next to where he poops to protect from the occasional splatter. We buy the big rolls instead of precut sheets because it's cheaper in the long run that way, however this cat is only 4 years old and has been doing this for 3 years, so we know we are in for the long haul on this. But it works great and solves the problem.