6/22 Pudge AMPS 303 +4 168 +6 209 +9 326 PMPS +350

kitten68

kitten68

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hi :)

well tmw is adjustment day.. looking like an increase, so from 1.75 to 2 U.. things been looking pretty good! but could be better.. so looking like increase.

plz lmk if otherwise or whatnot but is looking so.
:cat:

also, just for anyone’s reference, the syringes from ReliOn do vary with their 0 line.. have noticed 4 different placements.. the highest up is obviously most accurate.. but plz lmk if anyone has anything to offer w that. understand might only be important if sensitive to insulin :))). going to ask the pharmacist and also msg ReliOn.. cuz thats something that should be explained. i hear syringes just generally can vary. :/ but w these small doses… womp. it needs to be addressed right? feel like theres some syringes i cant use cause if the line is lower….. the dose is higher!

ah well. :woot:
 
kitten68 said:
also, just for anyone’s reference, the syringes from ReliOn do vary with their 0 line.. have noticed 4 different placements.. the highest up is obviously most accurate.. but plz lmk if anyone has anything to offer w that. understand might only be important if sensitive to insulin :))). going to ask the pharmacist and also msg ReliOn.. cuz thats something that should be explained. i hear syringes just generally can vary. :/ but w these small doses… womp. it needs to be addressed right? feel like theres some syringes i cant use cause if the line is lower….. the dose is higher!
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I use Relion, but I'm pretty sure it's a thing with most syringes. Because they're made for humans, and humans are typically on higher doses, small errors don't make as much of a difference (One of the insulins my mom is on she takes 46 units - being off by 0.25-0.5 wouldn't be a huge deal). I started out going through and only using the syringes that had a correct zero line placement, but that meant I had a fair amount of syringes that I couldn't use because they wouldn't give me correct numbers. So I bit the bullet and started using calipers. I still start out with going to the actual line-ish, but then fine tune with the calipers. Using the calipers also means when I've changed a dose, I remember the first couple of early mornings, because I'm measuring against something consistent.
 
Alicia & Kit cat said:
I use Relion, but I'm pretty sure it's a thing with most syringes. Because they're made for humans, and humans are typically on higher doses, small errors don't make as much of a difference (One of the insulins my mom is on she takes 46 units - being off by 0.25-0.5 wouldn't be a huge deal). I started out going through and only using the syringes that had a correct zero line placement, but that meant I had a fair amount of syringes that I couldn't use because they wouldn't give me correct numbers. So I bit the bullet and started using calipers. I still start out with going to the actual line-ish, but then fine tune with the calipers. Using the calipers also means when I've changed a dose, I remember the first couple of early mornings, because I'm measuring against something consistent.
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yeah...... might have to consider if it bothers me enough. :cat: makes sense about it being negligible for humans!.. and exactly! feeling like there's some can't use cause they are so off for our use.. .25 and .5 matters. thing is tho, they should just manufacture them properly. and I hear they vary too w the vet ones!!! why do they vary so much? it's sloppy. I even asked a pharmacist at Walmart and she was like, looks the same to me.... omg. anyway. gonna see if maybe the vet sees a difference and has an opinion.

thing is.. how do you push the plunger and hold the caliper? or how are they used? :) they don't seem too expensive.. but I see why now they're used.
 
well.

he's at 326 on +9.. im sad. :( I just don't like him feeling bad.. or maybe just indicates needs an increase?

waiting on a good dose. was not at home as much I wanted today tho im finally free (picking up stuff for him and me.. got more Lantus! yay! :p..) as well as yesterday, and it's been rainy.. he doesn't like rain. maybe it's a bit stress induced. maybe its from me too cause im stressed w all the running around. idk. sigh.

looking forward to 2 U... :) see how he is. getting more blues tho the past few days! that's good right? :) when it gets high tho.. like up to 300s.. I know he feels crazy. :(

terrible.
 
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kitten68 said:
yeah...... might have to consider if it bothers me enough. :cat: makes sense about it being negligible for humans!.. and exactly! feeling like there's some can't use cause they are so off for our use.. .25 and .5 matters. thing is tho, they should just manufacture them properly. and I hear they vary too w the vet ones!!! why do they vary so much? it's sloppy. I even asked a pharmacist at Walmart and she was like, looks the same to me.... omg. anyway. gonna see if maybe the vet sees a difference and has an opinion.

thing is.. how do you push the plunger and hold the caliper? or how are they used? :) they don't seem too expensive.. but I see why now they're used.
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I'm guessing it just has to do with the way they're manufactured, and there isn't an incentive to change it, unfortunately.

There's a post with a video that helps with caliper usage. https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dosing-with-calipers-updated-w-videos.79851/#post-862835

I don't try to do them both at the same time. If I know the dosage drawn is going to be large because the lines are off, I pull up to the "correct" line, and then test it against the calipers. I carefully move the plunger a little, and then check against the calipers. In my day to day job, I do a lot of fine measuring, so it was relatively easy to get pretty close and then just adjust slightly with the calipers. As the video in the link shows, a lot of folks use some sort of lighted background (phone, tablet, light table) to make sure it matches. I'm pretty successful holding it up to a light, but it does mean I'm using both hands to check. But again, I do a lot of that in my day to day life, so my hands just do it? I know @Angela & Cleo, @Mikanmama, and @Staci & Ivy also all use calipers, so they might have suggestions.

I definitely had questions about figuring out how to make sure I was getting the correct numbers, and once I had that, I just made a list that is always with Kit's stuff so I can just quick reference it when I need to change or verify.
 
Alicia & Kit cat said:
I'm guessing it just has to do with the way they're manufactured, and there isn't an incentive to change it, unfortunately.

There's a post with a video that helps with caliper usage. https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dosing-with-calipers-updated-w-videos.79851/#post-862835

I don't try to do them both at the same time. If I know the dosage drawn is going to be large because the lines are off, I pull up to the "correct" line, and then test it against the calipers. I carefully move the plunger a little, and then check against the calipers. In my day to day job, I do a lot of fine measuring, so it was relatively easy to get pretty close and then just adjust slightly with the calipers. As the video in the link shows, a lot of folks use some sort of lighted background (phone, tablet, light table) to make sure it matches. I'm pretty successful holding it up to a light, but it does mean I'm using both hands to check. But again, I do a lot of that in my day to day life, so my hands just do it? I know @Angela & Cleo, @Mikanmama, and @Staci & Ivy also all use calipers, so they might have suggestions.

I definitely had questions about figuring out how to make sure I was getting the correct numbers, and once I had that, I just made a list that is always with Kit's stuff so I can just quick reference it when I need to change or verify.
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I do the same as you do Alicia. Same technique @Alicia & Kit cat
 
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