? 03/19 Binie does not eat before injection - what should I do?

Heike & BInie

Heike & BInie

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Hello,

it is shot time and Binie does not eat her food. She is just sniffing but doesn't eat. There was also some licking and some kind of coughing, so I think she feels a little nauseous. I also tried the kibble she is not allowed anymore and she ate at least some of that. What should I do? Shoot smaller dose? Nothing at all? Thank you for your advise!
 
Heike & BInie said:
Hello,

it is shot time and Binie does not eat her food. She is just sniffing but doesn't eat. There was also some licking and some kind of coughing, so I think she feels a little nauseous. I also tried the kibble she is not allowed anymore and she ate at least some of that. What should I do? Shoot smaller dose? Nothing at all? Thank you for your advise!
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Some added information: Today was a bit of a rough day. Seems I did a fur shot yesterday and the whole night Binie had a bg > 500. After I gave the new dose this morning her bg went down quickly. In the afternoon I encouraged her to eat something when she was heading towards 100 and was a little shaking. After some time the bg went up but slowly. Befor the usual shot time she was a bit lower but not much. Now it is already past shot time and her bg is going down without injection.

Update: BG went up again and is almost as usual on her shottime. I also tested for ketones in her blood and they are quite good: 0,1 mmol/dl.
 
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Lantus does not start working (onset) for 2-3 hours after the shot, so you do have a couple hours to get food in the cat if you shoot.

Cats that are about to have anaesthesia and cannot eat, can have a half dose. Insulin does more than combat the carbs in her food. A half dose is usually safe to give. With Binie so high, you could probably give her even more.

Her BG is not really going down, those two numbers are practically the same number, and both are "too high".
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Lantus does not start working (onset) for 2-3 hours after the shot, so you do have a couple hours to get food in the cat if you shoot.

Cats that are about to have anaesthesia and cannot eat, can have a half dose. Insulin does more than combat the carbs in her food. A half dose is usually safe to give. With Binie so high, you could probably give her even more.

Her BG is not really going down, those two numbers are practically the same number, and both are "too high".
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Thank you Wendy! We are almost two hours after shot time. I will wait another hour and if she eats properly I will give her 9/12 of the dose (around 1.75 IE). If she doesn't eat or not much I give her half dose. (1,25 IE). At the moment I feel that everyday there is some new situation.... It helps me so much, I am not alone in this! Thank you!!!
 
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I would not stall any longer. It will take too long to get back to your shot time. If my cat I would shoot now. I’d finger or syringe feed if needed. The insulin might make her feel like eating.
 
tiffmaxee said:
I would not stall any longer. It will take too long to get back to your shot time. If my cat I would shoot now. I’d finger or syringe feed if needed. The insulin might make her feel like eating.
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I just shot 1,75 IE after she ate something. I think tomorrow morning I can inject in her usual time, because tonight I injected a reduced dose?
 
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I wouldn't shoot at the normal time tomorrow morning - that's too much time to make up. We typically say you can move the shot up 1/2 hour once per day, or 15 minutes per cycle. If she's really high, over 400, you can shoot one hour early tomorrow morning. Post during the day and we'll talk about what you can do tomorrow night.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
I wouldn't shoot at the normal time tomorrow morning - that's too much time to make up. We typically say you can move the shot up 1/2 hour once per day, or 15 minutes per cycle. If she's really high, over 400, you can shoot one hour early tomorrow morning. Post during the day and we'll talk about what you can do tomorrow night.
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Thank you! So much new to learn. I thought I don't have to change the time if the delayed injection was reduced. But thinking twice I understand, that this is not how Lantus works and we don't want too much overlap... Fortunately I have a day off today and tomorrow and I manage to switch back slowly. So I injected at 09:30 today. Hopefully it makes sense, how I marked that in the spreadsheet.
 
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