? Theodore - 11/10/2023 AMPS 513 +5 445

NadineTheodore

Member Since 2023
It doesn’t look like a bounce to me because he’s not dropping lower than his usual unless it is happening later at night which I doubt. I just think you have not gotten to the breakthrough dose and would increase to 5.5.
 
Have you done any ketones tests lately with him in those high numbers?

The SS notes that you've switched from Dr. Elsey's to DM. Is that the dry DM? It's horribly high in carbs and not appropriate for a diabetic cat.

Some cats just need more insulin, though it does look to me like something is causing insulin resistance. It could be as simple as glucose toxicity, or his body getting used to higher numbers. How are Theordore's teeth? Any chance he needs a dental or has some infection there?
 
He’s had almost all his teeth removed so it’s hard to say if there’s any infection. He’s had a slight sneeze here and there daily lately. The DM the vet recommended for diabetics? I can’t get dr. Esleys in canada as it’s back ordered for weeks now and if I don’t give dry then it causes him to get constipated. He’s gained weight actually since going on DM. He’s been floating from 13.05-13.13 lbs to now 14.7 lbs so I’m happy with that. No ketones. Eating and drinking like normal. Coat looks great just can’t explain these numbers.
 
If it's the DM dry food, that could be the culprit. The DM is called dietetic management, not diabetic management. It's at least 18% carbs, so considered high carb food. Extra carbs will also cause him to gain weight.
 
If it's the DM dry food, that could be the culprit. The DM is called dietetic management, not diabetic management. It's at least 18% carbs, so considered high carb food. Extra carbs will also cause him to gain weight.
I’m confused, the vet said it’s for diabetics? Did they give the wrong type?

I just started the food Monday night for him before was dr. Esleys
 
No the vet didn't give the wrong type. They were misinformed by the marketing done by the food company. In Canada, vets get something like 4-5 hours on food and nutrition in vet school, and Hills is often the one doing the "training". The canned food version (pate one) is OK for diabetics, just expensive and made with lousy ingredients.

Monday night (the 6th), his numbers started getting worse.
 
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