? 10/11 Ivy AMPS 336, +4 259, +6 221, +9 199, PMPS 221, +3.5 167, +4.25 44, +5 221 Libre/ Dose Advice

Staci & Ivy

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https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB...-354-4-260-5-141-8-212-pmps-395-3-341.282417/
Hello all, Amps is 336. She’s been very yellow and pink range on Libre the last few days.
We are on the 6th day of lowered carb diet (9.25% now, down from 12.5% homemade diet).

2 days ago discussion with @tiffmaxee and @Angela & Cleo was that I should continue to lower her carb diet down to 6% and do not increase her dose. (She had previously been seeing nadirs under 149 on Contour next meter)
Here’s a link to discussion:
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/10-9-ivy-amps-304-4-272-6-233-pmps-268-3-267.282376/
(Current dose is 2 units) and we follow SLGS.

I was ready to begin slowly changing over her diet to lower 6% carbs, but she’s now seeing higher bgs.

Question: do I begin that transition to lower carbs since her bgs are suddenly higher? (I don’t want to have to increase her insulin and lower her carbs at the same time).

@Wendy&Neko @Sienne and Gabby (GA)
Please advise before I begin lowering her carbs in her diet in case it is advised that I should do an increase.
Thank you.
Have a safe day everyone :cat:
 
Good morning Staci!
That's a really good question. Such an intricate balance FD requires!
I'm sure you will find a good balance for Ivy; the experts in this forum are just so amazing.

Have a great day! Slide down a bit Ivy. Let's go to the beach!
 
Ivy is a beautiful cat! I haven't been following Ivy's journey but I intend to start! Sorry I do not have a good answer to your question but I'm sure one of our local gurus will chime in :)
 
Good morning Staci!
That's a really good question. Such an intricate balance FD requires!
I'm sure you will find a good balance for Ivy; the experts in this forum are just so amazing.

Have a great day! Slide down a bit Ivy. Let's go to the beach!
Haha, the beach. Thanks, Kit. I agree on all you said. Gotta find that right formula and balance. The bar is always moving.
Have a great day :bighug:
 
Ivy is a beautiful cat! I haven't been following Ivy's journey but I intend to start! Sorry I do not have a good answer to your question but I'm sure one of our local gurus will chime in :)
Thank you, Kyle. I appreciate your checking in and would love your input when you feel appropriate. I’ve followed some of the great advice and comments you’ve given others.
Have a great day :)
 
I’ve followed some of the great advice and comments you’ve given others.


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I'm just a regular person not one of the FDMB experts but that is nice to hear nonetheless. I am just trying to pay it forward!!
 
I assume it'll take a few days for Ivy's body to get used to the lower carbs, so adjusting the dose st the same time won't allow you to pinpoint where a change needs to be made. I'm obviously not an expert by any means, but I'd finish lowering her carbs, wait a few days, then decide on dosing with the experts here.
 
I assume it'll take a few days for Ivy's body to get used to the lower carbs, so adjusting the dose st the same time won't allow you to pinpoint where a change needs to be made. I'm obviously not an expert by any means, but I'd finish lowering her carbs, wait a few days, then decide on dosing with the experts here.
Thanks for that, Alli. I agree and it will take more than a few days to lower her over to the 6% carbs. I’ll reduce one part of her diet every 3-4 days so she can slowly acclimate to the change.
I just wanted to be sure before I went any further with carb reduction!
I’m surprised that she’s so high the past few days since her carb load has been lower than before.
Still a mystery to me.
:bighug:
 
I would lower the carbs quicker than you have done before. But then I told you that the last time you lowered carbs.
I was just following my discussion with Sienne, who thought it should be a slow process. I’m truly not trying to ignore your advice. I really appreciate your input, Elise :bighug:
 
I agree with Elise, also speed up the rate of transition. Slow doesn't mean glacial speed. The current meal and the 6% are still basically lamb, correct? What are the differences between the two to make the carb %? It's not like you are changing to a completely different food.
 
I agree with Elise, also speed up the rate of transition. Slow doesn't mean glacial speed. The current meal and the 6% are still basically lamb, correct? What are the differences between the two to make the carb %? It's not like you are changing to a completely different food.
Not sure I understand your question about the difference between the 2 carbs you asked.

Currently feeding 9.25% lamb for past 5 days, 6% will be the lower carb lamb recipe.

(She actually was on the 6% from last September, up until late June this year.)

Sienna had originally said to make 1 change then wait 2-4 days then make another change. That’s the process I followed unless she went up in dose, then I wanted her to acclimate to increased dose of insulin before lowering carbs further.

I just want to be sure I do this safely for her.
 
I'm not an expert either, but from what I understand about changing diets, the "risk" is gastro-intestinal upset if you switch to a completely different food, like a different brand, for example. As long as you are still giving her the same protein, that you cook the same way, just with less carbs (what carbs do you use? I'm curious, are they vegetables, or starches?), there should not be any issue for Ivy.
 
As Cecile said (better than me), I was looking for the ingredient difference that made one higher carb food. If the rest of the food is exactly the same but the one ingredient, I'd call it essentially the same food.

This is the sixth day on all the same food, way more than 2-4 days. I see "some" 9.25% food being given since September 16th. That's way longer than needed for her to get used to it.
 
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As Cecile said (better than me), I was looking for the ingredient difference that made one higher carb food. If the rest of the food is exactly the same but the one ingredient, I'd call it essentially the same food.

This is the sixth day on all the same food, way more than 2-4 days. I see "some" 9.25% food being given since September 16th. That's way longer than needed for her to get used to it.
The carb used is the same in both recipes (just different amounts, and we use sweet potato). What schedule would you recommend I follow then to transition her to 6%?
(Originally Sienne said to change one meal at a time, then one snack at a time, so it was very gradual. )
 
I'm not an expert either, but from what I understand about changing diets, the "risk" is gastro-intestinal upset if you switch to a completely different food, like a different brand, for example. As long as you are still giving her the same protein, that you cook the same way, just with less carbs (what carbs do you use? I'm curious, are they vegetables, or starches?), there should not be any issue for Ivy.
Thanks, Cecile, I use sweet potato as her carb.
 
So good to hear there are no food ingredient changes, just quantity of food making the difference in carb %. That should be much easier on her tummy. I think you could change 1/4 of her meals 1 day, 1/2 the next, then 3/4. If you really want to go slow you could hold each change for 2 days. But it's only a 3% carb difference. Many people feed food in a range of carbs, and depending on the carb sensitivity of the cat, it may or may not make much difference in the numbers.
 
So good to hear there are no food ingredient changes, just quantity of food making the difference in carb %. That should be much easier on her tummy. I think you could change 1/4 of her meals 1 day, 1/2 the next, then 3/4. If you really want to go slow you could hold each change for 2 days. But it's only a 3% carb difference. Many people feed food in a range of carbs, and depending on the carb sensitivity of the cat, it may or may not make much difference in the numbers.
Thank you, Wendy :bighug:
 
Pmps 221.
Will change tomorrow am meal to 6% lamb diet. Hope we can see more blue or green.
I really wonder why so much yellow bgs lately, even after we lowered her carbs last week.
 
+4.25 44 on Libre.
Well that was a sudden drop out of nowhere. Just when I thought Ivy forgot how to drop Lower than yellow or pink numbers. ;)
 
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