Hi, I'm new here. My name is Xelo and my cat is called SINVER.

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xelo y sinver

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Hi, I'm Xelo, I'm Spanish. In April 2023, my cat got sick and was diagnosed with ketosis, DKA, lipidosis. From there they told us that our cat was diabetic. He was admitted to the vet for a few days until he was better and then they prescribed royal canin food and insulin caninsulin. Looking for information I found this forum. I saw that caninsulin was not a good insulin and I told my vet to prescribe LANTUS, she told me that if I wanted that insulin she would not be able to help me administer it, I switched to lantus and her food to only wet food. Currently we have been taking this insulin for a month and a half but the glucose data is always in pink.
My cat is called SINVER, he is 7 years old and currently does not suffer from any disease. 2 weeks ago he had a UTI but with the antibiotic he improved. I'm here in this community to be able to share your experiences with you. I'm new to the forum and I don't know the language well, I use a translator. Sorry if you see strange things in the writing. Well I say goodbye happy and greetings to all
 
Cinnie Cole said:
Hello Xelo! Glad to see your post and see you both here and in the FB group! I show up in the Lantus forum from time to time (my guy Zoot! is in remission)! Give Sinver a pet for me! I hope you find this is a wonderful resource with dedicated helpful people; I know I did.
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Hello, thank you very much for taking the time to stop by to say hello to sinver. I hope I can acquire knowledge to be able to manage your illness as well as possible. I am glad that your cat is in remission and you are still here to help and encourage the newbies.. thank you very much.
 
Welcome to FDMB.

Thank you for getting your spreadsheet set up. That will be very helpful to us! If you have been on the Facebook page, you have likely been told that Sinver should be fed a low carbohydrate diet. Do you know what the percentage of carbohydrates is in the food you're using? Not all wet food is low in carbs.

This is a link to the dosing methods that we use for Lantus. I'd suggest that you look them over and decide which method you want to use. That will also help us to guide you.

I've also tagged one of our members, @Gill & George, who lives in Spain. She will be able to offer information on what foods or other resources are available.
 
Sienne and Gabby (GA) said:
Welcome to FDMB.

Thank you for getting your spreadsheet set up. That will be very helpful to us! If you have been on the Facebook page, you have likely been told that Sinver should be fed a low carbohydrate diet. Do you know what the percentage of carbohydrates is in the food you're using? Not all wet food is low in carbs.

This is a link to the dosing methods that we use for Lantus. I'd suggest that you look them over and decide which method you want to use. That will also help us to guide you.

I've also tagged one of our members, @Gill & George, who lives in Spain. She will be able to offer information on what foods or other resources are available.
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Hello, I am in contact with two Spanish people from the forum who have been helping with their experiences. They informed me about the percentage of wet food that should not exceed 10% carbohydrates and directed me to a web page that is a wet food calculator. I am trying the SLGS method, until I am more sure that I can apply the TR. I will write it down in the spreadsheet. Thank you so much. all the best
 
Hola Xelo,
Un beso desde Granada.

Que tal vas con la comida? Solo come el animonda? O has probado con alguna otra comida? Hay bastante variedad en comidas apropiadas para diabeticos, yo suelo comprar on line, zooplus. Dime si quieres más sugerencias. Yo uso, feringa, wild freedom, thrive.
Tambien hay premios apropiados par ellos, (yo uso wolf wilderness) dime si quieres y te envío enlaces.

Tu vete no te esta ayudando con la dosificación? Por no conocer lantus supongo, a mi me pasó igual, eso fue cuando me vine aquí ynme ayudaran con el tratamiento/dosificación de lantus en el foro de lantus

Hay dos metidos, yo hice el que llaman TIght Regulation ' es un metido más intenso, pero tiene el beneficio de que llegas a regular la hypoglycaemia más rápido , porque te permite ir cambiando la dosis de una forma más rápida.

Como tu minino a tenido DKA, el riesgo de otro episodio de dka es más grande con el que con un gato sin ese historial, especialmente si se juntan varios factores, infección, inapetencia, estrés, y insuficiencia de insulina. Así que es importante estar pendiente de cambios, veo que le mides las cetonas dado su historial médico hacés bien.

Te ha estado ayudando alguien con dosificación? No entiendo porque bajaste de 1u a 0.75?

Yo, en tu lugar, yo me pasaría por el foro de lantus, hecha le un vistazo a los métodos, y desde ese foro te podremos ir ayudando con la dosificación, resolviendo dudas que tengas

Si tienes problemas de entender por el idioma, mandane un mensaje personal y te ayudo con lo que haga falta.

Gracias a San Google se te entiende perfectamente. :)​

Hello Xelo,
A kiss from Grenada.

How are you doing with food? Does he only eat the animonda? Or have you tried any other food? There is quite a variety of foods suitable for diabetics, I usually buy online, zooplus. Let me know if you want more suggestions. I use, feringa, wild freedom, thrive.
There are also appropriate treats for them, (I use wolf wilderness) let me know if you want and I'll send you links.

Is your vet not helping you with the dosage? I guess because they are unfamiliar with lantus, the same thing happened to me, that was when I came here and the members in the lantus forum helped me with the treatment/dosage of lantus in the lantus forum

There are two methods, I did the one called Tight Regulation 'it's a more intense method, but it has the benefit that you manage to regulate hypoglycemia faster, because it allows you to change the dose more quickly.

Since your kitty has had DKA, the risk of another episode of dka is greater with that with a cat without that history, especially if several factors come together, infection, loss of appetite, stress, and insufficient insulin. So it is important to be aware of changes, I see that you measure his ketones given his medical history, you are doing well.

Have you been helping someone with dosing? I don't understand why you lowered from 1u to 0.75?

If I were you, I would go through the lantus forum, take a look at the methods, and from that forum we can help you with the dosage, solving any doubts you may have

If you have problems understanding the language, send me a personal message and I'll help you with whatever you need.

Thanks to Saint Google you are perfectly understood. :)
 
xelo y sinver said:
I am trying the SLGS method, until I am more sure that I can apply the TR. I will write it down in the spreadsheet. Thank you so much. all the best
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xelo y sinver said:
am trying the SLGS method, until I am more sure that I can apply the TR. I will write it down in the spreadshee
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With the data on your ss, his nadirs were above 150, so lást week I would have taken the dose up to 1.25. Since the lowest nadir was 153.
Segun la tabla sus nadirs estaban por encima de 150 la semana pasada, yo en tu lugar hubiera aumentado la dosis en 0.25 a 1.25, ya que su nadir más bajo fue dec153.

From the slgs method guidelines
Según la guía de SLGS

After 1 week at a given dose perform a 12 hour curve, testing every 2 hours OR perform an 18 hour curve, testing every 3 hours. Note: Random spot checks are often helpful to "fill in the blanks" on kitty's spreadsheet. The goal is to learn how low the current dose is dropping kitty prior to making dose adjustments.
Despues de una semana hay que hacer una curva de glucosa de 12 horas con mediciones cada dos horas, o una curva de 18 horas con mediciones cada 3 horas. Mediciones a lo largonde la semana tambien qyudan a tener una mejor idea de como va con la dosis. El objetivo is de averiguar como de bajo le lleva la dosis.
  • If nadirs are more than 150 mg/dl (8.3 mmol/L), increase the dose by 0.25 unit
  • Si los nadirs son más de 150mg/dl aumenta la dosis por 0.25
  • If nadirs are between 90 (5 mmol/L) and 149 mg/dl (8.2 mmol/L), maintain the same dose
  • Si los nadirs están entre 90 y 149 manten la dosis
  • If nadirs are below 90 mg/dl (5mmol/L), decrease the dose by 0.25 unit
  • Si la dosis es menor de 90 reduzca la dosis por 0.25
 
Hola actualmente estoy en contacto con airum de Zaragoza y Manu de Madrid ,, con ellas he aprendido un poco de como funciona todo esto. se lo de la calculadora de hidratos, también compro en zooplus . estaba con smila y animonda también le doy unos sanks hidrolizados de pollo de mistar que son aptos, tengo una lista de comida completa apta y así me es mas fácil a la hora de hacer los pedidos . He pasado periodos muy difíciles de casi volverme loca con los números y tantas cosas que hay que aceptar cuando diagnostican a tu gato. Con mi veterinario no se puede confiar ya que el solo me dio caninsulin y no quería darme otra insulina y me tuve que poner fuerte para que me diera la recta de lantus. Me dijo que no me podría ayudar con el. He ido a 2 veterinarios mas y nada son iguales o peores. Vivo en un pueblo de valencia y no hay mas opciones de veterinarios entonces estoy buscándome la vida como puedo aquí en este grupo maravilloso. Si el idioma es un problema por que yo no se nada de ingles y tengo que estar con el traductor siempre a mano para poder entender algo.
La dosis la reduje por que raye pensando en que el gato estaba en muchos números rojos y operes que le estaba administrando mas insulina de la que debería y baje para probar me pare a pensar y pensé que podría no necesitar insulina. Tengo bajones constantemente por que estoy sola en esto por que mi marido actúalmente trabaja mucho y ya que yo no trabajo pues hago todo lo que se refiere a los animales de mi casa. Tengo 5 gatos uno de ellos es el diabético y claro tengo que estar pendiente con la comida poner a parte la de sinver , también tengo un niño de 2 años que aveces se deja comida por el suelo que a veces sinver aprovecha para comerla.
Anoche estuve hablando con Cris ronkoski por el privado del Facebook por que llevaba tiempo queriendo entrar en este foro por por problemas no podía hasta que me hice otra cuenta y por fin pude entrar.
Me e leido todos los manuales del foro tanto dosificación, métodos primeros auxilios lo tengo todo en capturas de pantalla lo mas importante para tenerlo a mano cuando me surja una duda.
Perdón por el toston., unsaludo. PD no se como mandarte un mensaje personal
 
Gill & George said:
With the data on your ss, his nadirs were above 150, so lást week I would have taken the dose up to 1.25. Since the lowest nadir was 153.
Segun la tabla sus nadirs estaban por encima de 150 la semana pasada, yo en tu lugar hubiera aumentado la dosis en 0.25 a 1.25, ya que su nadir más bajo fue dec153.

From the slgs method guidelines
Según la guía de SLGS

After 1 week at a given dose perform a 12 hour curve, testing every 2 hours OR perform an 18 hour curve, testing every 3 hours. Note: Random spot checks are often helpful to "fill in the blanks" on kitty's spreadsheet. The goal is to learn how low the current dose is dropping kitty prior to making dose adjustments.
Despues de una semana hay que hacer una curva de glucosa de 12 horas con mediciones cada dos horas, o una curva de 18 horas con mediciones cada 3 horas. Mediciones a lo largonde la semana tambien qyudan a tener una mejor idea de como va con la dosis. El objetivo is de averiguar como de bajo le lleva la dosis.
  • If nadirs are more than 150 mg/dl (8.3 mmol/L), increase the dose by 0.25 unit
  • Si los nadirs son más de 150mg/dl aumenta la dosis por 0.25
  • If nadirs are between 90 (5 mmol/L) and 149 mg/dl (8.2 mmol/L), maintain the same dose
  • Si los nadirs están entre 90 y 149 manten la dosis
  • If nadirs are below 90 mg/dl (5mmol/L), decrease the dose by 0.25 unit
  • Si la dosis es menor de 90 reduzca la dosis por 0.25
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Hoy es mi primer día en el foro y todavía no se como van las opciones de mandar mensajes privados a las personas , todo lo que me has explicado lo sabia pero pese que al estar con 1 unidad de lantus y estar todo rojo pense por un momento que no necesitaba la insulina. Mañana tengo pensado hacer curva y si el nadir da mas de 150 subir la dosis la mantengo 7 dias sin el nadir no baja a menos de 90-
 
Es muy difícil tomar estas desiciones cuando estamos solas, y lo estás llevando bien, conozco a airun :-)

Te comprendo perfectamente, yo estaba en la misma situación, vete que no sabía, o no quería ayudar, marido trabajando fuera y gatos y perros múltiples. Aquí le busque solución, Chris fue una de las que me ayudaba por aquí nen el 2015 y Sienne, que te ha escrito. Somos una gran familia.
 
xelo y sinver said:
Hoy es mi primer día en el foro y todavía no se como van las opciones de mandar mensajes privados a las personas , todo lo que me has explicado lo sabia pero pese que al estar con 1 unidad de lantus y estar todo rojo pense por un momento que no necesitaba la insulina. Mañana tengo pensado hacer curva y si el nadir da mas de 150 subir la dosis la mantengo 7 dias sin el nadir no baja a menos de 90-
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Si entiendo porque a lo mejor pensaste eso, pero por los numerosos no tenía pinta. Además has subida lacfosis con suavidad así que improbable que te pasara eso.

No te preocupes ahora le toca la curva, así que si sigue por encima de 150, le vuelves a subir a 1U
 
Lo de un mensaje personal lo digo porque no estoy todos los días en el foro, y si me mandas un mensaje personal me llega un aviso por emai y me dices que me pase por tu hilo.

Arriba a mano derecha pone inbox, si haces clic allí, y seleccionas nuevas conversación y escríbeme mi nombre puedes poner un mensaje,

Gill
 
Ok mañana curva de dia o de noche ? hace 2 semanas tuvo infección de orina quizá fueron los resultado tan altos por que estaba también con antibiótico.
Es que con la dosis de 1 unidad parecía que cuando le pinchaba se le disparaban los números en mas de 100 en una hora y pense que seria por una dosis elevada y por eso rebotaba.
Total que algunas veces pienso que voy a volverme loca. Si encuentro como poder mantardete mensajes personales peor todavía no lo e descubierto
 
xelo y sinver said:
Ok mañana curva de dia o de noche ?
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Como te venga mejor, cada dos horas durante 12 horas
O tienes la opción de cada 3 horas durante 18 horas

Como tu quieres.

xelo y sinver said:
Es que con la dosis de 1 unidad parecía que cuando le pinchaba se le disparaban los números en mas de 100 en una hora y pense que seria por una dosis elevada y por eso rebotaba.
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Eque días en concretonte preocupaban?
xelo y sinver said:
Total que algunas veces pienso que voy a volverme loca
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Así nos hemos sentido todas, tu me diras:)
 
Gill & George said:
Lo de un mensaje personal lo digo porque no estoy todos los días en el foro, y si me mandas un mensaje personal me llega un aviso por emai y me dices que me pase por tu hilo.

Arriba a mano derecha pone inbox, si haces clic allí, y seleccionas nuevas conversación y escríbeme mi nombre puedes poner un mensaje,

Gill
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parece ser que ya e podido pero el problema es que como estaba el traductor de español no reconocia tu nombre .. gracias por todo .. un abrazo.
 
Gill & George said:
Como te venga mejor, cada dos horas durante 12 horas
O tienes la opción de cada 3 horas durante 18 horas

Como tu quieres.


Eque días en concretonte preocupaban?

Así nos hemos sentido todas, tu me diras:)
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dia 8 9, 10 , parecia que no tenia sentido el pincharle subia mas que bajaba y que si te das cuenta al principio íbamos mejor , y ahora esta mucho mas alto.. encima el nadir estaba cuando terminaba de poder hacer efecto la dosis a +10 +11 esta haciendo unas cosas muy raras que antes no las hacia. y claro me preocupe digo a ver si esta teniendo mas dosis....
 
Found this posted by a member about DKA
  • you need to give one and a half times as many calories as she normally eats. Offer snacks every couple of hours during the day and evening as well as the 2 main meals. Food is like a medicine and helps keep ketones away. If your kitty won’t eat the low carb food, feed him whatever she will eat as eating any food is better than not eating,
  • Don’t skip any doses of insulin as insulin helps keep ketones away. If the BG is not high enough to give the dose…stall, dont feed and test again in 20 minutes and post and ask for help.
  • Test daily for ketones. Put the results of the tests into the remarks column of the SS so we can see. Please report any trace ketones at all. You will need to buy a bottle of Ketostix from Walmart or a pharmacy and follow the directions on the bottle.
  • Give antinausea medication if needed. Ondansetron is best. You will need a script from the vet for this and you get it from a normal pharmacy.
  • Give appetite stimulant if needed after the antinausea medication
  • Give extra fluids. If kitty will tolerate warm water in the food, put a teaspoon into each snack..
  • Ask the vet about subQ fluids
  • Set up a spreadsheet and test the BG frequently
  • Post daily with updates and ask for help as often as needed.
Let him eat whenever she wants as food is very important as it helps keep ketones away. Just don’t feed for the 2 hours before you test to give the dose of insulin.
 
xelo y sinver said:
In April 2023, my cat got sick and was diagnosed with ketosis, DKA, lipidosis.
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Can you add this to your signature when you set it up, it's information we need
Here is a link helping us to help you link. If you noticed, our members have some basic information about their cat's in their signature. This helps us to not pester you by asking the same questions (your cat's name, insulin type, date of diagnosis, etc.) repeatedly. We also have a link to our spreadsheet in our signature. We are very numbers driven. The spreadsheet is a record of your cat's progress. By linking it in your signature, we can follow along and provide feedback should you need the help.
Just tap on the blue link
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Found this posted by a member about DKA
  • you need to give one and a half times as many calories as she normally eats. Offer snacks every couple of hours during the day and evening as well as the 2 main meals. Food is like a medicine and helps keep ketones away. If your kitty won’t eat the low carb food, feed him whatever she will eat as eating any food is better than not eating,
  • Don’t skip any doses of insulin as insulin helps keep ketones away. If the BG is not high enough to give the dose…stall, dont feed and test again in 20 minutes and post and ask for help.
  • Test daily for ketones. Put the results of the tests into the remarks column of the SS so we can see. Please report any trace ketones at all. You will need to buy a bottle of Ketostix from Walmart or a pharmacy and follow the directions on the bottle.
  • Give antinausea medication if needed. Ondansetron is best. You will need a script from the vet for this and you get it from a normal pharmacy.
  • Give appetite stimulant if needed after the antinausea medication
  • Give extra fluids. If kitty will tolerate warm water in the food, put a teaspoon into each snack..
  • Ask the vet about subQ fluids
  • Set up a spreadsheet and test the BG frequently
  • Post daily with updates and ask for help as often as needed.
Let him eat whenever she wants as food is very important as it helps keep ketones away. Just don’t feed for the 2 hours before you test to give the dose of insulin.
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This is applicable when the cat is in DKA, sinver has no symptoms, is negative for ketones, has a good appetite,(always wants to eat, has no infection, is playful and well.

The dka episode was at diagnosis in April, though important to keep that in mind it's not necessary he eat ever two hours as he's eating adequately.

Of course, should he develop ketones or become symptomatic, or be in persistent high bg that would change.
 
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xelo y sinver said:
Hi, I'm Xelo, I'm Spanish. In April 2023, my cat got sick and was diagnosed with ketosis, DKA, lipidosis. From there they told us that our cat was diabetic. He was admitted to the vet for a few days until he was better and then they prescribed royal canin food and insulin caninsulin. Looking for information I found this forum. I saw that caninsulin was not a good insulin and I told my vet to prescribe LANTUS, she told me that if I wanted that insulin she would not be able to help me administer it, I switched to lantus and her food to only wet food. Currently we have been taking this insulin for a month and a half but the glucose data is always in pink.
My cat is called SINVER, he is 7 years old and currently does not suffer from any disease. 2 weeks ago he had a UTI but with the antibiotic he improved. I'm here in this community to be able to share your experiences with you. I'm new to the forum and I don't know the language well, I use a translator. Sorry if you see strange things in the writing. Well I say goodbye happy and greetings to all[/QUOTE

hey girl your not alone, my name is Mayte and I am also new to this forum (a game changer) and new to diabetes, I and a lot of people in this forum use the ProZinc insulin is long lasting and very effective, you might want to look at the forum conversations and about insulin and dosing, and I use the FreeLibre 2 Monitor and Sensors, no pricking, and the monitor tells all, 90 days data, highs/lows/ on point, alarms to check when high or low, is awesome. They are human sensors but great for our furr babies, you can also read about it in this forum. Wishing you the best, and there are many experts here that will guide us newbies 24/7
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Gill & George said:
This is applicable when the cat is in DKA, sinver has no symptoms, is negative for ketones, has a good appetite,(always wants to eat, has no infection, is playful and well.

The dka episode was at diagnosis in April, though important to keep that in mind it's not necessary he eat ever two hours as he's eating adequately.

Of course, should he develop ketones or become symptomatic, or be in persistent high bg that would change.
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Thanks for explaining that to me Gill :cat:
@Gill & George
 
Hola! Gato muy bien!

That's about all the Spanish I know other than some bad words. My Dad is a native speaker but I grew up not seeing him much at all so I never really learned much Spanish. I am glad for SINVER that you found this forum and you are so dedicated and committed to helping him. I am in tremendous awe of your ability to quickly make the decision to give Lantus and no longer rely on your vet for dosing, most people do not have the cojones. Mucho respect!!

Tight Regulation is what I followed and it got my boy into remission, along with Lantus so I highly recommend it.
 
Hendrick Cuddleclaw said:
Hola! Gato muy bien!

That's about all the Spanish I know other than some bad words. My Dad is a native speaker but I grew up not seeing him much at all so I never really learned much Spanish. I am glad for SINVER that you found this forum and you are so dedicated and committed to helping him. I am in tremendous awe of your ability to quickly make the decision to give Lantus and no longer rely on your vet for dosing, most people do not have the cojones. Mucho respect!!

Tight Regulation is what I followed and it got my boy into remission, along with Lantus so I highly recommend it.
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Hello, Hendrik. I appreciate that you have taken a bit of your time to answer my publication. The decision to leave the vet was hard since he did not want to switch to lantus, I spent a long time doing curves at home and showing him that with caninsulin it did not have the duration of 12 hours as she told me, apart from that I realized that the food that she The prescription from Royal Canin was not the right one for my cat. That cost me many hours of days reading the manuals on this forum and realizing that the vet had no idea. It's hard to make the decision because she told me that if I changed to Lantus she wouldn't be able to help me, I should do it at my own risk, and I did so.
 
I totally understand how you feel!

It is very scary when you realize the vet, who you trust with the care of your loved one, has no idea. And then to further realize that it is going to be up to you, nobody else can help your cat, as the vet is useless. I felt very alone and lost, and then I found this forum. They saved me as much as they saved my boy Hendrick.
 
Hendrick Cuddleclaw said:
I totally understand how you feel!

It is very scary when you realize the vet, who you trust with the care of your loved one, has no idea. And then to further realize that it is going to be up to you, nobody else can help your cat, as the vet is useless. I felt very alone and lost, and then I found this forum. They saved me as much as they saved my boy Hendrick.
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It's a bit scary to leave the vet but when I investigated this forum and found wonderful people and they made me trust them, they selflessly spent their time with me and I said that I had to give the cat a chance, and to the people on the forum who wanted to help me, here I have found great support, I no longer feel as alone as I did at first, I am delighted to be in this group of good people, I thank you for making me feel better so that I can help my cat
 
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