3/07 Baby G AMPS 230 PMPS 242 +2 171 +3 173 +4 143 +5 167 +6 171 +7 175

Not sure if you're up or online @Bandit's Mom

I have to get her shot ready now because I'm trying to keep with our new time of giving it at 6 in preparation for DST, plus I actually want to start moving her back even more so I can get her time eventually to 530. :)
I'm guessing the answer would be to either continue the 3.75 or do 3.5. Maybe I should flip a coin lol.:smuggrin: I'll prep a syringe for 3.75 and if I get a response in time saying to do 3.5, I can push the excess out.
 
Well I went with 3.75 again. She chowed down on some dry and went up to 282. I'll get a +1 before I head to work. Hoping to get to work a little early this morning to make up time because I was late yesterday. Will check on her for lunch too.
 
babyg said:
Did I do the wrong thing again :facepalm: I'm going to get a +1 now
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Maybe leave a little DM if she dipped low on the 3.75, especially since you're decreasing the higher carb. I just went through this with Sly. I'd be nervous to leave if I didn't feed a little higher carb.
 
babyg said:
Did I do the wrong thing again :facepalm: I'm going to get a +1 now
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No, it's okay. It is going to take some trial and error to figure out a good dose for her. Let's see the +1 and I presume you will come home at lunch to get another test?
 
Ok I left out a little extra DM. The +1 was 317. I'll check on her at lunch.
 
I just don't like how she doesn't seek out food when she gets lower, so it doesn't always make me feel that much better leaving out higher carb since she may not go for it anyway :arghh: it's like come on cat, where's your sense of self preservation
 
Ok I'm still in the area and can turn around and come back to pick it up. Guess no making up time today at work though lol. I'll have to try again tomorrow morning.
 
She's currently 212. Looks like she ate some wet but no dry. Do you think she'll drop crazy between now and when I get back? Should I put down DM? I'm going to try to get her to eat some Elsey before I go.
 
I'll be home but I'm not always the best at waking up to alarms. :( A lot of the time when I'm out, I'm out, and I can't help it. Not really looking for a crazy ride anyway lol. I'd like a dose I can feel comfortable with and not have to poke her a million times a day over. Maybe somewhere between 3 - 3.5?
 
My thoughts...and I'm not always the best at making these decisions, obviously, lol, so correct me if I'm wrong... but I kind of feel like 3.5 at the most since I'm really not too thrilled with the numbers from 3.75. A little too low for my liking. So maybe a .25 reduction to see how that goes for a bit. I can continue the 75% good for another day too.
 
My other thought too... when she was on 3.75 briefly before, it dropped her into the 90s, and that was on the DM. So that makes me a bit leery. :nailbiting: just thinking out loud.
 
I don't want to throw our shot time off due to DST (I hate DST...can it be abolished already? :rolleyes:) so I'm going to make a decision and go with 3.5. :p I'm slow and precise prepping my dose, so if someone answers before then, great, but if not, that's what we're going with. :cat:
 
Alrighty, so since I chickened out on the 3.75, I'm going to be brave and give her no DM tonight. Try to balance it all out lol. I really want this food change resolved and over with so the only thing to focus on is the dose.
 
babyg said:
Alrighty, so since I chickened out on the 3.75, I'm going to be brave and give her no DM tonight. Try to balance it all out lol. I really want this food change resolved and over with so the only thing to focus on is the dose.
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I'm sorry!! I had to give Sly his dose abd eat dinner. So you gave her 3.5 and no more DM?
 
babyg said:
I don't want to throw our shot time off due to DST (I hate DST...can it be abolished already? :rolleyes:) so I'm going to make a decision and go with 3.5. :p I'm slow and precise prepping my dose, so if someone answers before then, great, but if not, that's what we're going with. :cat:
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Just watch her anyway. Sly is very carb sensitive. He definitely dropped hard the day and a few days after I eliminated the DM.

Check her a few times through the night.
 
Yes, no DM. I figured if she drops low I can offer it then to bring her back up, but I can't remove insulin once it's in her body.
 
Deb and Sylvester said:
Just watch her anyway. Sly is very carb sensitive. He definitely dropped hard the day and a few days after I eliminated the DM.

Check her a few times through the night.
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Oh wow, so you went through removing the DM too.
Yes, I plan to get a +2 in a bit, and will definitely still keep an eye on her and not let my guard down. :)
 
Guys I'm worried now. Look how low she is at just +2, and that's AFTER she's already been eating quite a bit since I've been home. What do you think? How should I handle.
@Bandit's Mom ?
 
I just gave her a couple temptations since she doesn't want any DM now. I just want to abort this thing early :nailbiting: I get it that's a nice number but I don't like it this early in the cycle
 
babyg said:
I just gave her a couple temptations since she doesn't want any DM now. I just want to abort this thing early :nailbiting: I get it that's a nice number but I don't like it this early in the cycle
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Check her in an hour, and take it from there.

Do you have wet food? That's low carb, give her a few teaspoons.

Bhooma should be around soon.
 
She's not the biggest wet food fan, unfortunately. I sometimes don't feel like I have the same "ammo" most fur parents do at pulling the numbers back up. Sometimes she can be a bit stubborn to coerce to eat. Temptations are what I call kitty crack so I at least know I have that lol.
Probably to most everyone here 171 is nothing. But she throws me curveballs sometimes and I don't have the nerves for it.
 
One thing I will add is that I'm glad I decreased her dose! Just don't know if it'll be enough.
Maybe I'm just overreacting and I hope I am.
 
You might need to reduce her dose further once the DM is completely out of the picture. For now she is in safe numbers. Remember that the normal range is 50-100 on a human meter so she is well above that. It's below 50 that is too low.
 
Checked again and holding steady thus far. I'd be thrilled about that blue but just hoping it's not going to turn into some crazy rollercoaster going down down down. She seems in good spirits though. Grooming herself now. Played a little, got some catnip.
 
Oh boy 143 and it's only +4. Doesn't she seem to nadir more in the middle or end of her cycle? She just ate some more Dr. Elseys too.
What may be a good dose for in the morning, and should I try again for 100% the new food? I put down a small separate plate of DM but I haven't seen her eat it yet, so thus far, to my knowledge, she's just eaten the Elseys, Fancy Feast, and 2 Temptations
 
I'm going to nap for an hour in my recliner (more likely I'll wake up because it's not as comfortable) and check her again
 
She is still in safe numbers and you want to avoid the DM and Temptations till she drops low. Giving insulin and then feeding high carb is counterproductive. I know you are really worried about low numbers but we need to get an idea of how low she is going on a dose without high carb intervention to understand how much we need to reduce her dose.
 
I know lower numbers are scary. More than the cat's liver, caregivers get used to higher numbers. LOL. After so many years of diagnosis, she is finally seeing lower numbers thanks to the food change. Give it a chance. Her staying in higher numbers is not good for her kidneys either. You are putting in all this effort of testing her - let it not go to waste :bighug:. If her numbers indicate that she needs less insulin, we will definitely reduce the dose to keep her safe. But feeding carbs temporarily masks what the insulin is doing and you don't want that.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
I know lower numbers are scary. More than the cat's liver, caregivers get used to higher numbers.
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Ain't that the truth lol. The panicky liver's got nothing on me :joyful:
She seems to be holding steady and not doing any crazy dives. She's been napping next to the recliner and looks pretty content.
 
Let's see where her AMPS is tomorrow. Stay with 3.5U for now. Do not give 3.75U even is she is high. We do not change doses from cycle to cycle based on preshots. Lantus works best when dosed consistently and is dosed based on nadirs. She might need less than 3.5U but we will let her numbers be our guide. We do not want to reduce prematurely and risk glucose toxicity.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Let's see where her AMPS is tomorrow. Stay with 3.5U for now. Do not give 3.75U even is she is high. We do not change doses from cycle to cycle based on preshots. Lantus works best when dosed consistently and is dosed based on nadirs. She might need less than 3.5U but we will let her numbers be our guide. We do not want to reduce prematurely and risk glucose toxicity.
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Sounds good!
 
babyg said:
I'm amazed at how well put she's staying.
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She might have been lower but for the Temptations :-)

I'm thinking that if she is in the low 200s (say 250 or below), you could even go down to 3U. This is assuming that you are only giving low carb and no DM, Temptations etc. Anyway, get a test when you wake up so we have an idea of where she is likely to be at AMPS.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
She might have been lower but for the Temptations :)
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That's wild if only 2 can affect that much. Guess it doesn't take much when it comes to these higher carb foods/treats.
Just checked now and she's still pretty steady. 175. I'll probably wake up about an hour before her shot so I'll try to get a +11. I'm thinking since there have been no major changes I can hopefully catch a few straight hours of sleep now lol. :blackeye: i think for her it was a really nice cycle, probably the nicest I've seen her have because no crazy dips and practically all blue. :) should have changed food a long time ago.
 
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