Arthritis pain med suggestions

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Howiesmom

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Howie has had 5 Solensia injections so far. While I see improvement, I can tell he is in more pain as he is much more growly and hissy when I try to pick him up and when he can't get comfortable on my lap or even just trying to sit. The cold Minnesota winter doesn't help either! I want to ask my vet for a supplemental pain med. He gave me Gabepentin before that I could put in his ear and it didn't do anything and was an utter mess. What are other options that work and not a cream to rub in his ears?
 
Gabapentin is available as a tablet. (Edited to restate -- oral medication. Thanks, Larry)

I believe that a number of members here use either Adequan or Dasuquin. These aren't pain meds, though.

This is a thread from about a year ago when Solensia was released.
 
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Gabapentin is available as a tablet. (Edited to restate -- oral medication. Thanks, Larry)

I believe that a number of members here use either Adequan or Dasuquin. These aren't pain meds, though.

This is a thread from about a year ago when Solensia was released.
Thanks! I posted on that thread too and it was suggested I start a new thread. I had him on Dasuquin before the Gabepentin and Solensia as it seemed like it was a miracle supplement from what I read. Unfortunately I saw very little improvement. The Solensia has been good but I feel like he’s maybe plateauing.
 
I have gotten 100mg gabapentin capsules from human pharmacy and divided it into two #3 gel caps and administered to to one of my cats for years. It helped her joint pain. I later added Adequan and that helped a lot. Before she would eat lying on her side.
Did the human pharmacy accept a vet prescription? Or how did that work? And where do you buy the #3 gel caps? Thanks for the tips!
 
Here is what @Howiesmom said in her other post
Howie has had 5 Solensia injections so far. While I see improvement, i can tell he is in more pain as he is much more growly and hissy when I try to pick him up and when he can't get comfortable on my lap or even just trying to sit. The cold Minnesota winter doesn't help either! I want to ask my vet for a supplemental pain med. He gave me Gabepentin before that I could put in his ear and it didn't do anything and was an utter mess. What are other options that work and not a cream to rub in his ears?


I'm no expert at all but
I did mention to her that I have read many members have given

buprenorphine for pain.
Why couldn't she ask her vet for that
@Sienne and Gabby (GA)

@Larry and Kitties
 
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Did the human pharmacy accept a vet prescription?
Yes, no problem. You can even use GoodRx and similar coupons.
And where do you buy the #3 gel caps?
Amazon and other places
https://www.amazon.com/Gelatin-Caps...1_12?keywords=gel+caps&qid=1675599713&sr=8-12The gab should also fit in a #4 gelcap. I get the #3 since I could get ¼ of 250 mg metronidazole and pepcid in one cap.
https://www.amazon.com/Clear-Empty-...1_58?keywords=gel+caps&qid=1675599839&sr=8-58
 
I have gotten 100mg gabapentin capsules from human pharmacy and divided it into two #3 gel caps and administered to to one of my cats for years. It helped her joint pain. I later added Adequan and that helped a lot. Before she would eat lying on her side.
I get compounded gabapentin tabs (25mg) through Wedgewood Online Pharmacy with prescription of my vet but it’s pretty expensive. Are gabapentin caps cheaper? I’ve tried adding powder to food and my cats were outraged and suspicious for days after that, but using tiny gel caps is genius and would solve that problem!

@Howiesmom did you ever try Adequan for Howie? My very arthritic senior Mew isn’t a candidate for Solensia because of her chronic skin issues but she gets Adequan once a week and it is helping a lot. It takes time to build up, and in her case twice monthly wasn’t enough, but weekly seems to do the trick. She isn’t on any pain meds so far and is moving a lot better and back to jumping on the couch instead of using the pet stairs.
 
Buprenorphine was a game changer for Neko. From quiet and withdrawn, she got out of her bed, started playing with toys again and interacting with us. I got a vial compounded chicken flavour. She was on it long term for a couple years.

I tried a number of other things for her arthritis. Supplements like MSM for pain. Fish oil and Duralactin are good for inflammation, both went in her food. Check with the vet on the Duralactin as it's not good for kitties with higher calcium. Hyaluronic acid (I used brand Hyaflex a liquid) help the joints. My brother gets if for his knees too. And finally, Neko started seeing an acupuncture vet, and that also helped her mobility.

Other simple things like a 4 inch thick memory foam bed or heat reflecting pads helped too.
 
I get compounded gabapentin tabs (25mg) through Wedgewood Online Pharmacy with prescription of my vet but it’s pretty expensive. Are gabapentin caps cheaper? I’ve tried adding powder to food and my cats were outraged and suspicious for days after that, but using tiny gel caps is genius and would solve that problem!

@Howiesmom did you ever try Adequan for Howie? My very arthritic senior Mew isn’t a candidate for Solensia because of her chronic skin issues but she gets Adequan once a week and it is helping a lot. It takes time to build up, and in her case twice monthly wasn’t enough, but weekly seems to do the trick. She isn’t on any pain meds so far and is moving a lot better and back to jumping on the couch instead of using the pet stairs.
I was just looking into Adequan. How much do you pay for it? I had him on Dasuquin capsules and it didn’t seem to do anything for him. That was before he started Solensia.
 
Buprenorphine was a game changer for Neko. From quiet and withdrawn, she got out of her bed, started playing with toys again and interacting with us. I got a vial compounded chicken flavour. She was on it long term for a couple years.

I tried a number of other things for her arthritis. Supplements like MSM for pain. Fish oil and Duralactin are good for inflammation, both went in her food. Check with the vet on the Duralactin as it's not good for kitties with higher calcium. Hyaluronic acid (I used brand Hyaflex a liquid) help the joints. My brother gets if for his knees too. And finally, Neko started seeing an acupuncture vet, and that also helped her mobility.

Other simple things like a 4 inch thick memory foam bed or heat reflecting pads helped too.
Is the Buprenorphine expensive? Finances are tight these days unfortunately. He does get fish oil already as I read that it’s good for kidneys too. Are MSM and hyaluronic acid doses the same as humans? Where did you purchase?

I just elevated his food dishes which seemed to help him eat more normally and completely spaced out that I had a heating pad in an outdoor kittie house I’m not using right now. He LOVED that this afternoon. He prefers laying on one specific blanket but I moved a pet platform bed so he’s a few inches off the floor now. He doesn’t like kittie beds for some reason but might to just look into a chunk of memory foam I could put in a pillow case. I would rather see if some of these mitigation measures help before I go the medication route. Thanks so much, Wendy!
 
Is the Buprenorphine expensive?
I haven't bought a compounded vial since 2016, so hard to say what pricing is. Plus there's the Canada vs. US thing. For me it was around $100 for a 3 month supply.

MSM I've seen in pet stores, often added to glucosamine products. At least that's what I gave Neko, but like Dasuquin, it only worked in the beginning. Here's a link to the Hyaflex product, though I actually gave the dog version. Same product, larger bottle so cheaper overall. I see they have a new product out now, Hyaflex Pro, that also contains MSM. My vet actually sold the Hyaflex, but you can get it online. The Duralactin actually did more for Neko, but ECID. Again, purchased on line.
 
I second Wendy’s suggestion of acupuncture. I saw good results with a dog who had significant orthopedic problems — I’d literally carry her in the door and she’d walk out on her own after treatment. Acupuncture isn’t a “miracle” that’s going to cure things, but it certainly seemed to give my dog significant relief.

Another (perhaps last ditch) option, although I hesitate to mention it, is low-dose Metacam. Yes, it has a black box label in the U.S., but at appropriate doses, it can help quite a bit. It’s used more commonly in Europe and other parts of the world, but at much lower doses (my understanding is that it’s typically overdosed in cats in the US, which is where many problems arise). I used buprenorphine for several years in a couple of different cats and would definitely try that before Metacam, but if nothing else works, it might be worth considering Metacam’s risk/rewards from a quality of life standpoint.
 
I gave Sheba Metacam and it made a massive difference to her quality of life. She went from hardly moving to acting normally.
Metacam needs to be given with food and you need to make sure that the correct dose has been prescribed. In Australia, Canada and the UK there is metacam for cats which is 0.5mg/ ml. It is used extensively in Australia for post op and for other issues to treat inflammation.
The US, as far as I am aware uses the dog metacam for cats which is a much stronger strength and that is where the problem lies.
You might like to read this thread discussion about metacam from the Think Tank page
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/metacam-is-it-safe.190795/
 
I should add that I, too, used Metacam in a cat. It helped, but I was far too cautious due to the black box warning and overall perception of the risk, and so underdosed her for far too long. It was amazing how much the appropriate dose helped her. I wish now I’d have been more “adventurous” with the dosing earlier given I didn’t realize how bad she felt until she started feeling better. Again, risk/reward, but quality of life matters.
 
I started with the correct dose but after a period of time (a few months) I found I was able to reduce that dose and it had the same effect. I think it needs to be got under control first before reducing the dose.
 
I was just looking into Adequan. How much do you pay for it? I had him on Dasuquin capsules and it didn’t seem to do anything for him. That was before he started Solensia.
I bought mine online from Chewy with a script from the vet. It cost $152 for two vials, which might be too much for only one cat, since you can't use the vial for very long once it's opened (though my vet did say one can probably use it for a bit longer than what manufacturer recommends). I think Petco offers a single vial for $80, which seems like it would be more helpful. To give you an idea, Chewie was 11-ish pounds and used to get 0.23mL every dose (the regimen our vet followed was: 2 injections a week for 4 weeks, then 1 injection a week for 4 weeks, and as needed after that - for Chewie and Mew, it turned out to be needed once-weekly). It took a bit to build up but really helped them. You can use U-100 syringes instead of buying hypodermic syringes from the vet too. Works just fine.

With all that being said, I recently tried Adequan in prevention on Chewie's brother Wicket, who doesn't really suffer from any visible arthritis yet (but I know all senior cats have it to some degree so wanted to get ahead of it) and after each injection he's had several days of lethargy and very poor appetite. He does have chronic pancreatitis, but it happened three times, every time nothing had changed but his Adequan injection, so I think he's just one of those rare cats who gets weird side effects from it. Since Adequan is off-label in cats and it's difficult to pinpoint the cause of vague symptoms like poor appetite, it's very difficult to report such side effects to the manufacturer, which may contribute to the product's great safety profile?
Long story short, it's working great for my Mew, but I won't be giving any more of it to Wicket, and just wanted to include that like all drugs, it's not devoid of side effects.
 
I bought mine online from Chewy with a script from the vet. It cost $152 for two vials, which might be too much for only one cat, since you can't use the vial for very long once it's opened (though my vet did say one can probably use it for a bit longer than what manufacturer recommends). I think Petco offers a single vial for $80, which seems like it would be more helpful. To give you an idea, Chewie was 11-ish pounds and used to get 0.23mL every dose (the regimen our vet followed was: 2 injections a week for 4 weeks, then 1 injection a week for 4 weeks, and as needed after that - for Chewie and Mew, it turned out to be needed once-weekly). It took a bit to build up but really helped them. You can use U-100 syringes instead of buying hypodermic syringes from the vet too. Works just fine.

With all that being said, I recently tried Adequan in prevention on Chewie's brother Wicket, who doesn't really suffer from any visible arthritis yet (but I know all senior cats have it to some degree so wanted to get ahead of it) and after each injection he's had several days of lethargy and very poor appetite. He does have chronic pancreatitis, but it happened three times, every time nothing had changed but his Adequan injection, so I think he's just one of those rare cats who gets weird side effects from it. Since Adequan is off-label in cats and it's difficult to pinpoint the cause of vague symptoms like poor appetite, it's very difficult to report such side effects to the manufacturer, which may contribute to the product's great safety profile?
Long story short, it's working great for my Mew, but I won't be giving any more of it to Wicket, and just wanted to include that like all drugs, it's not devoid of side effects.
Thank you so much for all them info and your experience. Howie is going for a day admit urgent care appt tomorrow as he’s been vomiting quite a bit and not eating well. I have the Adequan on the list if things to talk to him about. We’ll see what he says. Thanks a ton!
 
Thank you so much for all them info and your experience. Howie is going for a day admit urgent care appt tomorrow as he’s been vomiting quite a bit and not eating well. I have the Adequan on the list if things to talk to him about. We’ll see what he says. Thanks a ton!
Oh poor baby, I hope he feels better - keep us posted!
 
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