8/10 Herman amps 329 +4 185 +6 167 pmps 194 +4 189 +6 178 +8 160

Amy & Herman

Amy & Herman

Member Since 2022
Yesterday

Amps: Will start course of Baytril today, possible lingering uti from last month.

Edit pmps…ignore above. Waiting for vet appointment scheduled tomorrow am.
 
Last edited:
Bandit's Mom said:
Is he showing any symptoms of a UTI? Were any tests done? It's also possible he has Idiopathic Cystitis and that will not respond to antibiotics. So you do not want to give antibiotics unless an infection is confirmed by tests.

See the section on Cystitis:
https://catinfo.org/feline-urinary-tract-diseases/
Click to expand...
Hello Bhooma, thanks for this. When speaking to the vet yesterday we talked about other symptoms etc and currently my concerns are BG seems less affected than previous and the pulling and licking at hair at base of tail. Herman is still peeing larger amounts and more frequently than what I would deem normal and doesn’t show any symptoms of pain or straining while urinating.

When he was prescribed Baytril last month for his confirmed uti we discussed possibly needing a longer course if it’s stubborn. But then his numbers improved after the Baytril course finished but when I look back that was short lived so I wonder if it was not entirely eradicated.

To save stress on Herman (he is extremely stressed by vet trips) I asked if we could run another course now at the end of which I would bring him in to test. We did discuss pros and cons of starting another course without brining him back in for another test and waiting for results but given symptoms and the fact he did test positive for uti last month we decided to try this route to get treatment started sooner vs waiting for results and stressing out Herman then brining him in after the course is run to ensure all is good and bacteria gone.

I was weighing the stress of extra vet trips and waiting for test results vs starting treatment right away. If he had not tested positive for Uti last month we would not just go ahead with antibiotics now.

I see exactly what you are saying though. I’ll chat with vet again.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Also, you want to take him up to 2U tonight. Let's get him to a good dose soon. Break through any glucose toxicity.
Click to expand...
If after a see vet this morning she advises to still go ahead with Baytril (I am not sure if she will say to still go ahead based on symptoms and last months lab results or have me bring him in again for more tests), but IF he does start Baytril would I still increase the dose while I start treatment? Or give Baytril a few days to work before increasing?
 
The excess urination could be due to the higher numbers. If he is going tiny amounts more frequently, that could indicate UTI or IC. But both are obviously differentiable from the excessive urination you see in higher numbers.

Is the pulling of the tail still there even after the flea treatment and stopping the Beyond pates?

I would go ahead with the increase. You don't want him hanging around in higher numbers. We don't know if it's an underlying problem causing the higher numbers or just loss of regulation/glucose toxicity.
 
Last edited:
Bandit's Mom said:
The excess urination could be due to the higher numbers. If he going tiny amounts more frequently, that could indicate UTI or IC. But both are obviously differentiable from the excessive urination you see in higher numbers.

Is the pulling of the tail still there even after the flea treatment and stopping the Beyond pates?

I would go ahead with the increase. You don't want him hanging around in higher numbers. We don't know if it's an underlying problem causing the higher numbers or just loss of regulation/glucose toxicity.
Click to expand...
I would say he pees both frequently (6+ times a day) and larger than average amounts (not as large as pre-diagnosis but more than he was when numbers were better and in larger clumps than I find in my neighbours litter box who I pet sit for almost weekly and they have three cats). He does not strain to urinate, I can’t believe how quick he is in and out of there. Never seems in distress around litter box and keeps things quite tidy (never misses the litter box etc).
I think maybe the tail pulling is slightly better? I still see him grooming himself “down there” more than I used to….I think….o_O ….these are the times where your mind plays tricks on you. All you want is your cat happy and healthy!
So speaking of happy and healthy, he is in excellent spirits. He has put on weight and is cheerful affectionate and active with good appetite.
Maybe I should monitor the grooming for another couple days and do the increase without Baytril. If numbers continue to not cooperate and I 100% confirm the excessive nether region grooming is still a problem then reassess with vet? You just hate to lose more time.
 
Just documenting that Herman definitely "worries" at lower levels or during quick drops/rises. I recognize blue is not low, but its low for him these days and it's quite remarkable how he gets so needy at these times and then tends to hide in a safe spot when I must get back to work. So it could be that he will sharply rise at this point thus his behavior or just a few hours in blue feels too weird... Will see what +7 (ish, I have online meetings) brings.
 
So this has been one of Herman’s better days in a while. Had planned to increase at pm to 2 units. Just looking to confirm that is still the right course given todays numbers… I have decided to hold off on Baytril and continue to monitor tail fur pulling and is he is still over grooming tail take him to vet tomorrow. ….as I write this he is pulling at the base of his tail. So looks like vet tomorrow. Do i still increase tonight?
 
And I realize Bhooma is hopefully tucked in bed at this point… so given that I will be able to monitor him closely tonight I think the increase should happen…hoping someone will see this and speak up if I am off the mark ;)
 
Amy & Herman said:
And I realize Bhooma is hopefully tucked in bed at this point… so given that I will be able to monitor him closely tonight I think the increase should happen…hoping someone will see this and speak up if I am off the mark ;)
Click to expand...
Yup. Was trying to sleep and Budge was trying to ensure I don't! Next time tag @tiffmaxee, use the ? prefix on the thread title and add a part of the question to it like "Dose increase?".

We get to fattening and skinnying doses only when a cat fails a reduction multiple times and goes between doses.

I think it's been 3 days since the flea treatment and stopping Beyond pates? You could hold the 1.75U one more day though I suspect he will bounce. And he is over 150 on this dose so he could use an increase to 2U.

Tagging @tiffmaxee for her input on dosing.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Yup. Was trying to sleep and Budge was trying to ensure I don't! Next time tag @tiffmaxee, use the ? prefix on the thread title and add a part of the question to it like "Dose increase?".

We get to fattening and skinnying doses only when a cat fails a reduction multiple times and goes between doses.

I think it's been 3 days since the flea treatment and stopping Beyond pates? You could hold the 1.75U one more day though I suspect he will bounce. And he is over 150 on this dose so he could use an increase to 2U.

Tagging @tiffmaxee for her input on dosing.
Click to expand...
tiffmaxee said:
I would increase to 2.0 in the morning. Next time you need help add the question mark and write dosing help or whatever you need so we know.
Click to expand...
Ok will up dose in am…just over 4 hours from now. Trying to decide if I should wake up in 2 hours to test again or sleep till amps.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top