May 31 Alice AMPS-248, +1.5-248, +7.5-318 PMPS-256, +2-148

MissSarahJean

MissSarahJean

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An updated post of todays readings so far.
Alice’s numbers are looking high today I’m wondering if I missed some of her shot this morning…
Or I shouldn’t have skipped her AM shot after all yesterday.
With such a high dose (6 units Lantus) how can her numbers not be going down?
My poor girl
Also, can someone let me know if my SS looks ok with the added numbers. Thanks everyone!

I’m not sure if I should be linking my other post? I don’t know how to do that if it is needed.
 
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Hi Sarah on your spreadsheet you do not need to put a column for 1.5 and 7.5 no one would see them
In the 1 cell just put 248 @+1.5 and color it manually
In the 7 cell just put 318 @+7.5. color code it manually
I would get rid of those columns you made
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Hi Sarah on your spreadsheet you do not need to put a column for 1.5 and 7.5 no one would see them
In the 1 cell just put 248 @+1.5 and color it manually
In the 7 cell just put 318 @+7.5. color code it manually
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Ok!! I’ll go back in and fix that thank you!
However, I don’t know how to remove the columns that I’ve added.
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
I just looked at your SS I am going to tag Bhooma @Bandit's Mom to help you, she will be on later tonight
What the heck happened to your World SS lol

Sarah go to your World Tab and put those numbers in the correct cell like you did on the US tab
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Oh nooo!!! Lol!! I’ll go back in and see what the heck I’ve done…
Yes Bhooma please help!! :eek: :woot:

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Ok I believe I fixed the World SS!! Now I just need to get rid of those extra columns lol
Thanks so so much for helping me Diane!
 
Lol - you just need to delete columns that you added- in world that's columns E, F, G, H and O. In the US just remove E and L.

MissSarahJean said:
Alright so it’s ok to delete all that html coding stuff then and I won’t totally screw up the chart?? Lol I worked so hard on it I’d hate to mess anything up at this point
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Each cell has its own formula, so no, you won't screw anything up, I've been doing it for 5 years and my SS hasn't imploded (yet) :p

ETA: as for today's cycle, you may be seeing a combination of effects of skipped shot and some bouncing. There may have been some lower numbers mid-cycle of pm cycle May 28th or am cycle of May 29th. That's one reason why it is important to get some midcycle tests, to get a feel for how low he dose is taking the kitty. And keep in mind too, not each cycle is going to look the same; insulin is a hormone not a drug and many things can influence how it is metabolized.
 
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Christie & Maverick said:
Lol - you just need to delete columns that you added- in world that's columns E, F, G, H and O. In the US just remove E and L.



Each cell has its own formula, so no, you won't screw anything up, I've been doing it for 5 years and my SS hasn't imploded (yet) :p
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:p Lol!!! Wow. I’m giggling at myself right now.
You saying the letters of the columns made it click for me!! Hahaha as soon as I clicked on the E there it was…
“delete column”
I might be able to fix this on my own after all :cat:
 
MissSarahJean said:
An updated post of todays readings so far.
Alice’s numbers are looking high today I’m wondering if I missed some of her shot this morning…
Or I shouldn’t have skipped her AM shot after all yesterday.
With such a high dose (6 units Lantus) how can her numbers not be going down?
My poor girl
Also, can someone let me know if my SS looks ok with the added numbers. Thanks everyone!

I’m not sure if I should be linking my other post? I don’t know how to do that if it is needed.
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@Christie & Maverick
Hi Christie I'm glad you explained to Sarah how to delete those columns , because I had no clue :p
Can you maybe answer her question about Alice's BG numbers

Her intro post will explain why she is giving 6 units and what other members suggested
If you have time to read them
Thanks :cat:
 
SS is fixed as far as I can tell lol
Thank you both for that!!
I’ll just start testing at proper times never mind the .5!! ;)
 
Christie & Maverick said:
Sorry - the cons of editing a post, it might be missed. I added some info re: my thoughts on today's cycle, back in post #8, I noticed the question after I posted about the SS :rolleyes:
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I see it now thank you!! So many different factors. I could be catching her right after she eats. I’m not totally familiar with what bouncing is. Does it have something to do with such a high dose?
 
MissSarahJean said:
I see it now thank you!! So many different factors. I could be catching her right after she eats. I’m not totally familiar with what bouncing is. Does it have something to do with such a high dose?
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You're welcome, I've gone back to read through the intro info that Diane kindly shared, and the dry food is definitely one of those factors that I mentioned. Interestingly, no - bouncing has nothing to do with the size of the dose, here is an excerpt from one of the stickies/info pages:

Bouncing - is simply a reaction to what the cat's system perceives as a BG value that is "too low". "too low" is relative. If a cat is used to BG in the 200s, 300s or higher for a long time, then even a BG of 150 can trigger a "bounce". Bouncing can also be triggered if the BG drops too low and/or too fast. The pancreas, then the liver release glucogon, glycogen and counter-regulatory hormones. The end result is a dumping of "sugar" into the bloodstream. *Usually* bounces clear within 3days (6 cycles).

Speaking of dry food, is that still in the mix?
 
Christie & Maverick said:
You're welcome, I've gone back to read through the intro info that Diane kindly shared, and the dry food is definitely one of those factors that I mentioned. Interestingly, no - bouncing has nothing to do with the size of the dose, here is an excerpt from one of the stickies/info pages:

Bouncing - is simply a reaction to what the cat's system perceives as a BG value that is "too low". "too low" is relative. If a cat is used to BG in the 200s, 300s or higher for a long time, then even a BG of 150 can trigger a "bounce". Bouncing can also be triggered if the BG drops too low and/or too fast. The pancreas, then the liver release glucogon, glycogen and counter-regulatory hormones. The end result is a dumping of "sugar" into the bloodstream. *Usually* bounces clear within 3days (6 cycles).

Speaking of dry food, is that still in the mix?
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That all makes a lot of sense! Great info thank you loads!!
Sadly it’s hard to gauge how long she’s been dealing with those high BG numbers prior to diagnosis. I caught it quite early on thankfully and according to my vet. She was diagnosed on my second appointment.

Yes, unfortunately dry food is still in the mix. I want to change her over to wet food only but I’m hesitant right now with that 6 unit dose. I was going to discuss it with my vet after her next glucose curve because I presume insulin would need adjusting with a changed diet not to mention whatever changes the vet will have in mind after her curve. I’m also going to mention switching to syringes so we can find a better dose that’s the right fit for Alice! :cat:
I’m confident she would have no issues with the diet change. She loooooves wet food and she’s been enjoying freeze dried treats in place of Temptations.
 
Well, if is any consolation, her numbers aren't awful considering you are using a pet meter. We can help you when you do decide to transition off dry, it would definitely involve some closer monitoring, and likely a reduced dose for safety. That's always been one of the problems with dry food, it's a variable with effects on BG that is hard to control, particularly how long it can last in the cat's system. And, to complicate things, some kitties are more carb sensitive than others.

A suggestion in terms of mid-cycle tests, until you get with your vet. If you can get spot checks at different times on different days and cycle, particularly at night, that might help fill in some of the missing pieces, and see how the current dose is working. Last night with the +2 being quite a bit lower than the preshot number, it would have been interesting to see another test, maybe around +4 or 5. We've often found that kitties like to go lower at night, and then may bounce afterward. I've had many cycles with Maverick where he was high during the day and would go lower at night. Had I not done spot checks at night before bed, I would have been missing the lower numbers, and would have increased his dose based on the higher daytime numbers, thinking he needed more insulin, where in some cases he actually earned a reduction.
 
I’ve updated the title with Alice’s PM numbers.
I’ll be able to do more night time readings past +2 over the weekend!!
Happy to see a lower number. :cat:
Good night!
 
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