2/7 Wesson AMPS=87 +2=81 +6=56 +8=49 +10=66 PMBG=72

Did he go lower than 57 last night? Doesn't look like he's going to stay on this dose very long. Anti-jinx!
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Did he go lower than 57 last night? Doesn't look like he's going to stay on this dose very long. Anti-jinx!
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No, 57 was the lowest because I try to manage with food. He goes low every cycle though so I am assuming he does not need the drop of insulin. Do we stick with this for a week?

ETA: But I am noticing that food actually seems to lower his number now instead of raise it.
 
Another low, even with LC at +2 to slow him down. Gave MC at +2.5 when he dropped to 54. Up to 77 after MC, but now hovering around 60.

ETA: And now we are at 53 again and some more MC.
 
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Paige & Wesson said:
But I am noticing that food actually seems to lower his number now instead of raise it.
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Are you spacing out his meals? At this point, if you aren't already, I'd give him a small meal at +8 or +9 to see if you can get rid of those blue preshots. His sputtering pancreas will respond and bring those numbers down to green.

I wouldn't be forcing him to stay in higher numbers with higher carb foods. I'd want to see what he can do with just LC, which is what we hope he's always going to get going forward.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Are you spacing out his meals? At this point, if you aren't already, I'd give him a small meal at +8 or +9 to see if you can get rid of those blue preshots. His sputtering pancreas will respond and bring those numbers down to green.

I wouldn't be forcing him to stay in higher numbers with higher carb foods. I'd want to see what he can do with just LC, which is what we hope he's always going to get going forward.
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So, you don't think those blues are a bounce from the low? I am feeding him a little constantly through the day and night. Just afraid the LC will not bring him up. He's had MC already twice today when he hit 54 and 53 and he is still at 56 @+4.5.

ETA: I have not been giving food at +8/9....I guess I could set an alarm.
 
Start with the AM +8/9 and see if that helps.

Some cats naturally hang out in the 40's when off of insulin. We just don't want cats on insulin to go there cause that leaves no margin for error. If Wesson needs MC to stay above 50, he's done with this dose.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Start with the AM +8/9 and see if that helps.

Some cats naturally hang out in the 40's when off of insulin. We just don't want cats on insulin to go there cause that leaves no margin for error. If Wesson needs MC to stay above 50, he's done with this dose.
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He just had another low. I tried the LC and it only brought him up slightly. The problem is he is running low every hour or so and staying in the low 60's after LC food. Is that ok? Low 50's to low 60's every hour? And he's not that hungry after eating every hour.
 
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Wendy&Neko said:
Start with the AM +8/9 and see if that helps.

Some cats naturally hang out in the 40's when off of insulin. We just don't want cats on insulin to go there cause that leaves no margin for error. If Wesson needs MC to stay above 50, he's done with this dose.
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I only gave LC the rest of the day and we got a 49 at +8.
 
Look at this crazy day! Ok, what do we need to do next?
 

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Here you go. Good luck.

OTJ DIRECTIONS

  • Start the trial on the next green pre shot.
  • If she is green at your normal test times, no need to test further until the next "PS" time; just feed small meals and go about your day. If she is blue at your normal "PS", feed a small meal and test again after about 3 or 4 hours. If her number is lower 3-4 hours after a meal, then the pancreas is working!
  • Post every day so we can monitor your progress and see if any tweaks are needed. Be sure you include “OTJ Trial Day xx” in your subject line with the “xx” being the day of the trial.
  • She may have a sporadic blue number. Don't panic but post before you decide whether to shoot so we can have a discussion.
  • After 14 days of no insulin, we have a party!!
Sometimes the trial doesn't work the first time and we have to give a little more support in the form of resuming insulin. It's not the end of the world if that happens; we just give her the support needed. Our goal is a strong remission and it's better to take our time to get that than to rush into remission just to have it fail later on.

Once she is through the trial successfully, you enter a new phase. Your cat is still diabetic but has now become diet-controlled. Continue feeding low carb food in the manner successful for your kitty. If you decide to change her feeding schedule, let your meter be your guide to the best times to feed. Avoid medications with sugar in them and steroid medications unless they are medically essential. Continue testing blood glucose weekly for the first month and then monthly forever. It's a good idea to weigh her monthly. Weight should remain stable. If she seems "off" or sick, or is showing signs of diabetes (excessive drinking, eating, urinating, weight loss), test her blood glucose right away. Keep the teeth and gums clean and healthy; dental issues can bring a cat out of remission. If you see rising blood glucose numbers, it's time for a visit to the vet!
 
tiffmaxee said:
Here you go. Good luck.

OTJ DIRECTIONS

  • Start the trial on the next green pre shot.
  • If she is green at your normal test times, no need to test further until the next "PS" time; just feed small meals and go about your day. If she is blue at your normal "PS", feed a small meal and test again after about 3 or 4 hours. If her number is lower 3-4 hours after a meal, then the pancreas is working!
  • Post every day so we can monitor your progress and see if any tweaks are needed. Be sure you include “OTJ Trial Day xx” in your subject line with the “xx” being the day of the trial.
  • She may have a sporadic blue number. Don't panic but post before you decide whether to shoot so we can have a discussion.
  • After 14 days of no insulin, we have a party!!
Sometimes the trial doesn't work the first time and we have to give a little more support in the form of resuming insulin. It's not the end of the world if that happens; we just give her the support needed. Our goal is a strong remission and it's better to take our time to get that than to rush into remission just to have it fail later on.

Once she is through the trial successfully, you enter a new phase. Your cat is still diabetic but has now become diet-controlled. Continue feeding low carb food in the manner successful for your kitty. If you decide to change her feeding schedule, let your meter be your guide to the best times to feed. Avoid medications with sugar in them and steroid medications unless they are medically essential. Continue testing blood glucose weekly for the first month and then monthly forever. It's a good idea to weigh her monthly. Weight should remain stable. If she seems "off" or sick, or is showing signs of diabetes (excessive drinking, eating, urinating, weight loss), test her blood glucose right away. Keep the teeth and gums clean and healthy; dental issues can bring a cat out of remission. If you see rising blood glucose numbers, it's time for a visit to the vet!
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Ok, thank you! Fingers crossed!
 
If you don't shoot, it's called PMBG (blood glucose) and AMBG. It's also a quick way of telling us you didn't shoot by looking at the subject line.
 
Now that he is off insulin, you need not worry about him dropping too low. Some cats run lower (40s and even 30s!). As long as you are not giving him insulin, you need not worry about a hypo.
Just feed him his regular LC food.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Now that he is off insulin, you need not worry about him dropping too low. Some cats run lower (40s and even 30s!). As long as you are not giving him insulin, you need not worry about a hypo.
Just feed him his regular LC food.
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Think he's ok for tonight or should I watch for a few hours? He's been holding between 69-81 the last few hours.
 
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